Geelong rorting the system

[PhatBoy]

So he’s a heavy drinker and a known drug user? Ok.

On a more serious note, hope you are looking after yourself a bit better these days Phat.

Thank you mate I am. I have epilepsy and the mix of too much drinking and that condition didn’t go well together so it’s far more moderate now.

My point being that the fact that he’s done gear before doesn’t mean that any incident where he finds himself in an ambulance means he got there because he did gear.
I can’t imagine that someone who has ODd is going to be discharged and show up to footy training a day later. Someone who has had too much to drink and passed out and been initially unresponsive on the other hand seems a far more likely possibility.

Stupid behaviour and I’m surprised and probably a bit disappointed the club didn’t stand him down for a week but I would be incredibly stunned if he, as has been suggested ‘overdosed.’

 

[captain bloodsport]

Thank you mate I am. I have epilepsy and the mix of too much drinking and that condition didn’t go well together so it’s far more moderate now.

My point being that the fact that he’s done gear before doesn’t mean that any incident where he finds himself in an ambulance means he got there because he did gear.
I can’t imagine that someone who has ODd is going to be discharged and show up to footy training a day later. Someone who has had too much to drink and passed out and been initially unresponsive on the other hand seems a far more likely possibility.

Stupid behaviour and I’m surprised and probably a bit disappointed the club didn’t stand him down for a week but I would be incredibly stunned if he, as has been suggested ‘overdosed.’

If your friends are carrying you out of a nightclub concerned and your getting rushed to hospital, it sounds like an od.

I'm sorry you have epilepsy, take care

 

[PhatBoy]

If your friends are carrying you out of a nightclub concerned and your getting rushed to hospital, it sounds like an od.

I'm sorry you have epilepsy, take care

Thank you, it’s a pain and has made life hard with driving etc but it’s manageable

If you are unresponsive it means you’re passed out one way or the other: something in your system means you’re unconscious (or you’ve been belted but that obviously didn’t happen).

So an ambulance gets called.


Once that ambulance gets called that’s the end of it. It’s an emergency and unless you wake up on the spot and show you are fine, you are going to hospital and dealt with as an emergency.

So yes there is a possibility - no denying it - that he took drugs. However there are two things that are worth noting. One, simply dismissing it off-handedly as ‘he overdosed’ is absolutely stupid because no one has any evidence whatsoever that he did this, and two, as we know he was back at training a day later. I would have thought that suggests he drunk himself into a stupor.

 

[captain bloodsport]

Thank you, it’s a pain and has made life hard with driving etc but it’s manageable

If you are unresponsive it means you’re passed out one way or the other: something in your system means you’re unconscious (or you’ve been belted but that obviously didn’t happen).

So an ambulance gets called.


Once that ambulance gets called that’s the end of it. It’s an emergency and unless you wake up on the spot and show you are fine, you are going to hospital and dealt with as an emergency.

So yes there is a possibility - no denying it - that he took drugs. However there are two things that are worth noting. One, simply dismissing it off-handedly as ‘he overdosed’ is absolutely stupid because no one has any evidence whatsoever that he did this, and two, as we know he was back at training a day later. I would have thought that suggests he drunk himself into a stupor.

I've had a friend had a very dangerous situation happen while driving with epilepsy. Very scary.

Everything you say is true, he might not of over dosed. The sceptic in me says otherwise.

He wasn't back in full training on the Monday, he was doing some light running that's what was reported.

 

[Freddy Swift]

An yes. The one that Tiger fans refer to as ‘the overdose.’
Because when you overdose you go to training the next day.

With all due respect, I didn’t say anything about drugs or overdosing, I just said ‘incident’. I doubt it’s only Tiger fans who think it may have been drug related either. As far as I’m aware, no details of what actually occurred have been forthcoming, which leaves people to draw their own conclusions.
Hence, my comment about it being swept under a rug. The AFL are good at that, say nothing, admit nothing and hope it all goes away.

P.S Also hoping your health problems are well under control. All the best.


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[PhatBoy]

With all due respect, I didn’t say anything about drugs or overdosing, I just said ‘incident’. I doubt it’s only Tiger fans who think it may have been drug related either. As far as I’m aware, no details of what actually occurred have been forthcoming, which leaves people to draw their own conclusions.
Hence, my comment about it being swept under a rug. The AFL are good at that, say nothing, admit nothing and hope it all goes away.

P.S Also hoping your health problems are well under control. All the best.


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No I understand that. I’m sorry it wasn’t directed personally at you as such. I always have a giggle at the more extreme end of the Tiger supporter spectrum who simply refer to it as ‘the Stengle Overdose’ that’s all.

And thank you mate, 12 months seizure free this month so for the time being I’m good, tends to come and go.

 

[PhatBoy]

I've had a friend had a very dangerous situation happen while driving with epilepsy. Very scary.

Everything you say is true, he might not of over dosed. The sceptic in me says otherwise.

He wasn't back in full training on the Monday, he was doing some light running that's what was reported.

It’s actually that part - the light training - which makes me think he got too full of piss. If he ODd, I don’t think there’s any way they would put him near a paddock. Either way they elected not to discipline him which as I said I’m a bit disappointed in, but I don’t think under any duty of care they could have put him on a training paddock if that had happened whereas something like drinking himself to that point they could go ‘well you did something stupid, we recognise you went to hospital so we can’t make you run it off with a full session but you’re well enough to be out here.’

And yep it’s bloody frightening I know of someone similar who crashed while having an absent seizure (the ones where you’re still kind of conscious but totally unaware of what’s going on around you) and when he came to he’d been through a roundabout and swiped two parked cars and somehow not hurt himself or his passenger. Really lucky

 

[random260]

Woweee. If this case was an open shut case the investigation into Manchester City cats would have been over by on.


The fact this is still ongoing speaks volumes. This corruption cats scandal is bubbling up to be as damning as Essedon doping scandal. I have a feeling their are following the corruption trail of the cats

We have an afl investigation into a club for their corruption. Doesn't get any worse then that folks.

We might need to push for an independent commission into cats corruption

 

[STPer18]

Woweee. If this case was an open shut case the investigation into Manchester City cats would have been over by on.


The fact this is still ongoing speaks volumes. This corruption cats scandal is bubbling up to be as damning as Essedon doping scandal. I have a feeling their are following the corruption trail of the cats

We have an afl investigation into a club for their corruption. Doesn't get any worse then that folks.

We might need to push for an independent commission into cats corruption

It's over, Steve Hocking had one look at the proposed 'investigation' and just said "yeah, nah" and the AFL ended it right there and then. Geelong-based business Morris Finance are looking forward to Chris Scott providing them exceptional value in his new role as Chief of Leadership and Performance.

 

[yeahmate]

Geelong based financial advisory clientele would be mostly drug money and rich farmers so Scott is well credentialed given his experience with the Cats playing group

 

[Bevoman]

Geelong based financial advisory clientele would be mostly drug money and rich farmers so Scott is well credentialed given his experience with the Cats playing group

Well to be fair, Geelong need to replace their Costa living allowance.

 

[STPer18]

After taking well unders for years Geelong have found retired 3-time premiership key forward Tom Hawkins

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a nice job with FoxFooty. Go well Tom - that's another organisation blessed by an exemplary Geelong person.

 

[Muddiemoose]

After taking well unders for years Geelong have found retired 3-time premiership key forward Tom Hawkins a nice job with FoxFooty. Go well Tom - that's another organisation blessed by an exemplary Geelong person.

Always seemed to pair well with Jack Riewoldt even back in the players nights on afl 360

Dare say they will get paired up a fair bit

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Always seemed to pair well with Jack Riewoldt even back in the players nights on afl 360

Dare say they will get paired up a fair bit

Ahh love jack. Probably my favorite media analyzer going around at the moment.

 

[Muddiemoose]

Ahh love jack. Probably my favorite media analyzer going around at the moment.

He has a little bit of larrikin vibe and loves to entertain

Sometimes when players go straight into the media post footy they almost seem a little dry even if they are insightful

Like Hodge who I really enjoy what he is saying and how he sees the game but his delivery is so bloody boring and one note

 

[geelong_crazy26]

He has a little bit of larrikin vibe and loves to entertain

Sometimes when players go straight into the media post footy they almost seem a little dry even if they are insightful

Like Hodge who I really enjoy what he is saying and how he sees the game but his delivery is so bloody boring and one note

What shocked me was I thought jack was a stooge or clown… but he is actually well spoken and intellectual with his analysis and insights. My fav media personell now Ross Lyon is back coaching.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

After taking well unders for years Geelong have found retired 3-time premiership key forward Tom Hawkins a nice job with FoxFooty. Go well Tom - that's another organisation blessed by an exemplary Geelong person.

Is that his real face? Fmd.

 

[PhatBoy]

Is that his real face? Fmd.

No, it’s the one the umpires, Steve hocking and the match review committee who didn’t suspend Tom Stewart for longer after the Prestia incident bestowed upon him.

Yes, it’s his real face, presumably

 

[Meteoric Rise]

No, it’s the one the umpires, Steve hocking and the match review committee who didn’t suspend Tom Stewart for longer after the Prestia incident bestowed upon him.

Yes, it’s his real face, presumably

Jeez.

 

[Ross]

Always seemed to pair well with Jack Riewoldt even back in the players nights on afl 360

Dare say they will get paired up a fair bit

I hope for their sake it's more successful than when Fox tried to pair up Cam Mooney and Barry Hall. Hall got the boot pretty quickly but Steve Hocking made sure that Mooney kept his job.

 

[Slime Roy]

After taking well unders for years Geelong have found retired 3-time premiership key forward Tom Hawkins a nice job with FoxFooty. Go well Tom - that's another organisation blessed by an exemplary Geelong person.

Fabulous News! I hope he's as natural as Lingy, Mooney & Selwood before him.

 

[Rich01]

Thank you mate I am. I have epilepsy and the mix of too much drinking and that condition didn’t go well together so it’s far more moderate now.

My point being that the fact that he’s done gear before doesn’t mean that any incident where he finds himself in an ambulance means he got there because he did gear.
I can’t imagine that someone who has ODd is going to be discharged and show up to footy training a day later. Someone who has had too much to drink and passed out and been initially unresponsive on the other hand seems a far more likely possibility.

Stupid behaviour and I’m surprised and probably a bit disappointed the club didn’t stand him down for a week but I would be incredibly stunned if he, as has been suggested ‘overdosed.’

One that the AFL seemed to have allowed to blow over was the curious case of Jack Stevens stabbing.

The bloke was almost killed and the afl responds with a ‘nothing to see here’ action.

Not sure whether he was a cat or a saint at the time, but it was obviously something that the AFL didn’t want to openly confront.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

One that the AFL seemed to have allowed to blow over was the curious case of Jack Stevens stabbing.

The bloke was almost killed and the afl responds with a ‘nothing to see here’ action.

Not sure whether he was a cat or a saint at the time, but it was obviously something that the AFL didn’t want to openly confront.

He was a cat. Stevens was just very unlucky, normally when you take illicit drugs you don't get stabbed, you just collapse & get taken to hospital.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

One that the AFL seemed to have allowed to blow over was the curious case of Jack Stevens stabbing.

The bloke was almost killed and the afl responds with a ‘nothing to see here’ action.

Not sure whether he was a cat or a saint at the time, but it was obviously something that the AFL didn’t want to openly confront.

You are aware that it wasn't deemed worthy of being pursued by Vic Police?

“The police investigation stemming from a 30-year-old Lorne man presenting at a Melbourne hospital with a non-life-threatening injury on 17 May, 2020, has been concluded,” a Victoria Police spokesperson told AAP.

“No charges have been laid in relation to the matter."

 

[Sttew]

He was a cat. Stevens was just very unlucky, normally when you take illicit drugs you don't get stabbed, you just collapse & get taken to hospital.

He was never a ‘Cat’. He didn’t immerse himself in the club and was nothing but a list clogger. A terrible decision to recruit him