Geelong - Too old, too slow?

[CatToTheFuture]

What's this talk about Hawkins rumors that he could retire? thats rubbish surely...
he has another year in him even if they geelong don't move up the ladder next season.

I would say a 1% chance of retirement

He doesn't need to be a fit and firing 25 year old the way he plays

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

I think you're finishing 12th. This is the worst premiership defence in history. Well done on another record, Geelong.

Edit Richmond finished 12th in 2021.

If this does happen (and it might) I don’t think there’s a less upsetting negative record to hold.

 

[Roby]

You seem to care a lot. Thanks for your concern.

Geelong have some decent runners who, much like your kids were last year, were waiting on retirements. Ollie Dempsey and Mitch Knevitt are among the top handful at the club for endurance running and are just waiting on Smith and Tuohy to retire. Neale was an under 18s national athletics star similar to Holmes but in hurdles not running.

I have concerns about our young players coming through but ability to cover the ground ain't it, try again.

Yes, Knevitt has endurance, but hasn't Dempsey played basketball most of life? Is he rally high endurance?

If this does happen (and it might) I don’t think there’s a less upsetting negative record to hold.

So you agree it's upsetting.

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

Yes, Knevitt has endurance, but hasn't Dempsey played basketball most of life? Is he rally high endurance?



So you agree it's upsetting.

Sure Roby. Whatever makes you feel better.

 

[Sttew]

What's this talk about Hawkins rumors that he could retire? thats rubbish surely...
he has another year in him even if they geelong don't move up the ladder next season.

Think you’re mistaking Hawkins for Riewoldt? Hawkins will go another season

 

[Daka]

Think you’re mistaking Hawkins for Riewoldt? Hawkins will go another season

they were talking about it on footy classfieid last night & stewart has come out saying he has a "decision to make"

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Is he rally high endurance?

Yes

 

[thecatattack]

Not like we missed finals in 2015 or anything.

We'll be back next season. Bookmark this and come back to cry when I'm right.

 

[Roby]

Not like we missed finals in 2015 or anything.

We'll be back next season. Bookmark this and come back to cry when I'm right.

Who is Geelong displacing out of the 8? Is Geelong going to be better than all the teams out of the 8 next season, and how?

 

[matey]

Cats will improve next year on the back of all the 30+ yo players that haven’t hit their peak yet.

 

[Mr Meow]

Cats will improve next year on the back of all the 30+ yo players that haven’t hit their peak yet.

Miers, Atkins, Close, Stengle, O.Henry, J.Henry, De Koning, Z.Guthrie, O'Connor, Bowes, Bruhn, Knevitt, Dempsey, Clark, Neale and Conway can improve on their 2023 seasons. If those 16 improve marginally it'll then get the best out of the remaining veterans ala the 2022 formula.

New recruit 2 time B&F back ought to help too.
Imagine another recruit or two on top!

Try not to be too doom and gloom.

 

[matey]

Miers, Atkins, Close, Stengle, O.Henry, J.Henry, De Koning, Z.Guthrie, O'Connor, Bowes, Bruhn, Knevitt, Dempsey, Clark, Neale and Conway can improve on their 2023 seasons. If those 16 improve marginally it'll then get the best out of the remaining veterans ala the 2022 formula.

New recruit 2 time B&F back ought to help too.
Imagine another recruit or two on top!

Try not to be too doom and gloom.

We could all list a bunch of players at every club and there are some ripper young talented groups coming through …… good luck with that group! And the massive drop this year is proof. You may say/think they will improve but so will everyone else!

 

[Mr Meow]

We could all list a bunch of players at every club and there are some ripper young talented groups coming through …… good luck with that group!

Yeah I personally don't go round s**t-canning other clubs prospects. You do you though mate, you come across as very balanced and unbiased.

 

[Outtatym]

I think you're finishing 12th. This is the worst premiership defence in history. Well done on another record, Geelong.

Edit Richmond finished 12th in 2021.

Lol what a flex.

 

[matey]

Yeah I personally don't go round s**t-canning other clubs prospects. You do you though mate, you come across as very balanced and unbiased.

Very balanced and unbiased when I look at all the playing lists across all clubs ……. the problem is supporters have tizzy fits when they hear comments that they don’t want to hear. The reality is the Cats best players are slowing down over the hill and they don’t have the same quality of youth coming through as compared to other clubs.

 

[Mr Meow]

Very balanced and unbiased when I look at all the playing lists across all clubs ……. the problem is supporters have tizzy fits when they hear comments that they don’t want to hear. The reality is the Cats best players are slowing down over the hill and they don’t have the same quality of youth coming through as compared to other clubs.

I dunno, I just listed youngish players who either had disappointing seasons and may bounce back, or had good seasons and may improve further. If that's a tizzy fit I guess this is my version of a tantrum.

The same lines have been trotted out every year. I'd say once Hawkins retires that's when the actual cliff is here. But our version of the cliff historically isn't as dramatic as other clubs. I guess it's exciting to see if that changes?

 

[STPer18]

Two debutants tomorrow night - exciting times for Geelong fans!

 

[Roby]

Two debutants tomorrow night - exciting times for Geelong fans!

Hard to judge them early.

But I'm sure Isaac and Menegola, will hold you in good stead next year, they certainly were impressive last night.

 

[Mr Meow]

Hard to judge them early.

But I'm sure Isaac and Menegola, will hold you in good stead next year, they certainly were impressive last night.

Issy had some erratic disposals in his last game for his favourite club but overall it was a great send off; Menegola's goose is clearly cooked.

Our best players in a game we were winning before they all ran out of gas by 3QT were Stewart, Smith, Parfitt, Atkins, Bowes, Holmes, O.Henry, O, Connor Stengle and Dempsey. Not too many imminent retirees there - but Geelong wasted their chances, the Dogs nailed theirs and we missed our two best KPD's and KPF's as the game wore on.

Plenty to work with.

 

[Whiskers]

If we could have the worst premiership defence in 2025, that would be swell.

 

[STPer18]

Hard to judge them early.

But I'm sure Isaac and Menegola, will hold you in good stead next year, they certainly were impressive last night.

I'm going to miss Geelong legend Isaac Smith, that's for sure.

 

[blaisee]

The bad news for Geelong is that their best players last night where

Isaac Smith

7

Isaac Smith

Age

35

Ht

188cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.4

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.4

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.3

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

CL

1.3

4star

D

19.2

5star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

7.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.6

3star

Dangerfield
Stewart
Menegola
Stanley
Bews

When you add

Hawkins
Tuoy
Cameron
Guthrie
Blicavs
Simpson
Rohan

The future remains very very bleak

They have not bottomed out yet, will be worse next year, and then be terrible for the next 5 years

No elite talent coming through, no AA standard players under 30 on the list, and no draft picks

Pretty much the perfect storm for years and years of misery.

Not sure there is an AFL list with a worse demographic

Their older players are past it, and refuse to retire, the players in their prime are B grade, and they have no elite youth, and to make it worse, no draft capital.

Disaster

 

[STPer18]

Not sure there is an AFL list with a worse demographic

You haven't seen Richmond's yet. Only made worse by trading all in for season 2023 which flopped spectacularly.

 

[nut]

I'm going to miss Geelong legend Isaac Smith, that's for sure.

I would have thought out of all the +30s he has the best form

 

[Footy Smarts]

The bad news for Geelong is that their best players last night where

Isaac Smith
Dangerfield
Stewart
Menegola
Stanley
Bews

Unfortunately there's a subtlety to quality trolling that you haven't got.

Smith, Dangerfield and Stewart you can definitely argue were in our best players so fair enough. You probably could've got away with putting Menegola in there and hoping people just look at possessions and ignore all the clangers and constantly getting caught with the ball.

But Bews and Stanley? You're not convincing many people that Stanley was pivotal with his 13 touches, 6 clangers and getting destroyed by Rory Lobb.