Opinion Geelong's era of dominance over

[joe444]

Some valid points going on here, but there does seem to be some collective amnesia that we are talking about a team which won the whole thing in 2022.

I think part of it is a kind of wish-fulfilment because everyone else is so thoroughly sick of Geelong and it seems an offence to sporting morality that they could just resurrect for the fourth time in fifteen years. This despite having still, arguably, the best forward line and defence in the competition simultaneously.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Let’s see where they are in 6 weeks time. Had the easiest draw to start the year so it’s impossible to make any judgements on them this early. Could very well lose the next 6…

The teams they’ve played only have 5 wins combined.

That figure would be 10 if they'd beaten us. Pretty impressive.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Let’s see where they are in 6 weeks time. Had the easiest draw to start the year so it’s impossible to make any judgements on them this early. Could very well lose the next 6…

The teams they’ve played only have 5 wins combined.

There are some tough asks coming up for sure but it's been good to both get games into kids and also have those games be wins.

Coming into the year plenty of pundits would have chalked up the saints, dogs, and Crows games as losses

Saints and dogs would be in the 8 if they beat us

 

[WillHayward]

Some valid points going on here, but there does seem to be some collective amnesia that we are talking about a team which won the whole thing in 2022.

I think part of it is a kind of wish-fulfilment because everyone else is so thoroughly sick of Geelong and it seems an offence to sporting morality that they could just resurrect for the fourth time in fifteen years. This despite having still, arguably, the best forward line and defence in the competition simultaneously.

Your fwd line is insanely good.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

It will be officially ended this weekend

Come on. You guys aren't that bad.

A 75 point win is still decent.

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[Footy_Fan2007]

Let’s see where they are in 6 weeks time. Had the easiest draw to start the year so it’s impossible to make any judgements on them this early. Could very well lose the next 6…

The teams they’ve played only have 5 wins combined.

Fair but I would say GWS has had the easier draw. They have already played West Coast and North.

You are correct with the next month. It will be very telling. I think we go 2-2 with wins against the blues and port.
We won’t be losing 6 in a row though.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Let’s see where they are in 6 weeks time. Had the easiest draw to start the year so it’s impossible to make any judgements on them this early. Could very well lose the next 6…

The teams they’ve played only have 5 wins combined.

You'd think after the amount of favourites that got beaten only last weekend people wouldn't be as ignorant to come out with this. Also 2022 wants it bigfooty main board post back.

Can only beat who you play. Geelong of last year would have lost at least two, maybe 3 games so far of that I have no doubt. To be 5-0 shows we're significantly better. More difficult games to come but Geelong will do better in them than they would last year.

 

[Sttew]

You'd think after the amount of favourites that got beaten only last weekend people wouldn't be as ignorant to come out with this. Also 2022 wants it bigfooty main board post back.

Can only beat who you play. Geelong of last year would have lost at least two, maybe 3 games so far of that I have no doubt. To be 5-0 shows we're significantly better. More difficult games to come but Geelong will do better in them than they would last year.

So much of football is above the shoulders, and the confidence that comes from winning 5:0 is immense. The form of forward lines and defence resemble the 2022 premiership team form. 5 players have kicked 8 or more goals this year, and only 3 teams have conceded less points than Geelong (Power Saints & Dockers).

The midfield is currently a work in progress, but Bruhn and Bowes are looking very good. Danger and Cam Guthrie to come back, and Max Holmes is on the verge of something big. Cats will lose games, and a Brisbane loss is a possibility, but if they do lose the Cats will have put up a fight and not capitulated like the 2023 Cats did so often.

 

[Tristan34]

Let’s see where they are in 6 weeks time. Had the easiest draw to start the year so it’s impossible to make any judgements on them this early. Could very well lose the next 6…

The teams they’ve played only have 5 wins combined.

Are you for real?? You have only travelled once and played Richmond... You have played WCE, fremantle, Essendon and Melbourne at home, beating up on the easy teams and losing to Melbourne and pipping Fremantle.. Power start isn't exactly convincing.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Are you for real?? You have only travelled once and played Richmond... You have played WCE, fremantle, Essendon and Melbourne at home, beating up on the easy teams and losing to Melbourne and pipping Fremantle.. Power start isn't exactly convincing.

It's round 5. Nobody has had a tough draw as of yet ironically besides maybe Norf.

Everybody's played a couple of middling sides, maybe one finals side, and a soft kill or two. GWS for example getting WCE & Norf in their first 5 tells the story, and has certainly contributed to their hot start.

It's the reality when there's only 5 games of a sample size in an 18 team comp. The problem is when people act like this is purely a Geelong issue/advantage.

On pre-season predictions, the only gimme we've had so far was Norf yesterday.

All of Adelaide, St Kilda, and the Dogs where tipped by the masses to be better than Geelong, while Hawthorn were predicted to be slightly worse than us, but around a similar level.

The same people who predicted a bottom 6 finish are now saying we've had a soft run. You can't have it both ways.

 

[The 747]

Fair but I would say GWS has had the easier draw. They have already played West Coast and North.

You are correct with the next month. It will be very telling. I think we go 2-2 with wins against the blues and port.
We won’t be losing 6 in a row though.

I am doubtful that we can match that midfield.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

I am doubtful that we can match that midfield.

Bulldogs midfield >>>>>>> port midfield.
And we knocked them off…

 

[The 747]

Bulldogs midfield >>>>>>> port midfield.
And we knocked them off…

We'll see, I don't see it that way. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[PhatBoy]

We'll see, I don't see it that way. Hope I'm wrong.

We don’t need to beat those midfields. We just need to do enough. It DOES happen but it is probably rare for a side to be the best across all facets or areas of the game, I’d say we have close to the best front 6 if not the best, and a contender for best back 6 in the game. We can afford to be a bit down the chain for the middle of the field just as long as we aren’t getting absolutely thrashed there

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

We'll see, I don't see it that way. Hope I'm wrong.

Just how I see it from what I’ve watched of us this year.
Could be wrong of course.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Are you for real?? You have only travelled once and played Richmond... You have played WCE, fremantle, Essendon and Melbourne at home, beating up on the easy teams and losing to Melbourne and pipping Fremantle.. Power start isn't exactly convincing.

I never said anything about how we’re travelling or how we’re doing.

Over reaction much?

All I’m saying is that those fawning over the unbeaten Cats need to calm their farm and wait another month given they’ve had probably the best early draw in the league. Your 5 and 5 as your should be really.

Now I don’t actually expect you to lose the next 6 but at the same time, I wouldn’t surprised if you went 1-5 or 2-4 over that time. Can’t get a gauge for how your travelling until after this period.

No different to us but this thread isn’t about Port.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

I never said anything about how we’re travelling or how we’re doing.

Over reaction much?

All I’m saying is that those fawning over the unbeaten Cats need to calm their farm and wait another month given they’ve had probably the best early draw in the league. Your 5 and 5 as your should be really.

Now I don’t actually expect you to lose the next 6 but at the same time, I wouldn’t surprised if you went 1-5 or 2-4 over that time. Can’t get a gauge for how your travelling until after this period.

No different to us but this thread isn’t about Port.

I’m not sure we “should be”
We weren’t supposed to play finals this year and many tipped Geelong for bottom 4.
Hardly any experts had us anywhere near the 8.
So yes while it’s nice we’ve won 5, it was never a given at all.
That’s a bit silly to say.

 

[Taper]

I never said anything about how we’re travelling or how we’re doing.

Over reaction much?

All I’m saying is that those fawning over the unbeaten Cats need to calm their farm and wait another month given they’ve had probably the best early draw in the league. Your 5 and 5 as your should be really.

Now I don’t actually expect you to lose the next 6 but at the same time, I wouldn’t surprised if you went 1-5 or 2-4 over that time. Can’t get a gauge for how your travelling until after this period.

No different to us but this thread isn’t about Port.

None of us are getting ahead of ourselves, we know from experience just how hard it is to win a flag.
However, we are more than happy to point out the fact our era is far from over, this thread case in point given it was made in 2014.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Let’s see where they are in 6 weeks time. Had the easiest draw to start the year so it’s impossible to make any judgements on them this early. Could very well lose the next 6…

The teams they’ve played only have 5 wins combined.

I think it's probably worth looking a bit deeper at this early stage of the season. There's 2-3 teams who are equal and ahead of us in the premiership betting as it stands.

No doubt, Geelong's 5-0 start has been assisted by playing the two 0-5 teams who aren't looking great, but what about the other three wins: Adelaide, St Kilda and the Bulldogs? I'd argue that the jury is out on all three. Who else has contributed to their indifferent starts to the season?

Well, for Adelaide, I bristle at the idea that's part of an easy start to the season: if memory serves me correctly, we were like $2.80 underdogs heading into that game. An away win at Adelaide Oval is never easy. Looking deeper, they had one admittedly pathetic performance on Good Friday against Fremantle, an even worse start away to the Suns in their season opener (before coming home to nearly pinch it) and a 15 point loss at home against Melbourne. It's going to be hard for them to make finals from here, granted, but that doesn't make them an awful team. That's just the way it goes every year, from say seventh to thirteenth or thereabouts at the end of the season, the difference is probably a bit of luck and how well you took your opportunities.

The Dogs are the current whipping boys this week, but they looked pretty good against us from what I saw, despite Geelong being generally in control of that game. From their win against Gold Coast earlier in the year, they look like a pretty classic Jekyll and Hyde team to me: can probably beat anyone by 10 goals or lose to anyone by 10 goals.

As for St Kilda, I don't really think there's any qualifications: I think they're a good side. Lost three games to teams with a combined 13-2 record by a combined 13 points.

So yes, Geelong have some tests coming up, we'd probably be doing well to break even over our next six. But breaking even means 8-3 after 11 games. I'd take that.

 

[Taper]

I actually feel sorry for supporters who have gotten used to be s**t. Bottoming out just isn't acceptable. It can have a negative impact on everything from memberships, culture of the club, crowd attendance not to mention being half miserable as a supporter. Yes everyone remembers flags but there's still the whole home and away season where you get to experience a dozen wins or more every year. Makes friends and family life better and work. Even mental health. It all payed off for us in 22. Could have bottomed out and spent the next 10 years trying to get back to the spot we are in in 24.

True, you just have to see how other clubs have gone with bottoming out when their own supporters actively wanted it to happen.

Exhibit A - North Melbourne.
North supporters were wanting their side to bottom out because they were sick of finishing mid table every year, now they're in their 5th year of bottoming out and the years under Laidley and Scott were the good old days in comparison.

Exhibit B - Adelaide.
Much like North the Crows supporters wanted to bottom out because they were sick of mid table mediocrity, and given they've been rebuilding for half a decade under Nicks with premiership contention still looking to be a fair way off, this is another case of be careful what you wish for.

Exhibit C - Port.
Haven't bottomed out under Hinkley but their supporters are actively barracking for their side to bottom out because they're sick of mid table mediocrity, and they want to be rid of Hinkley. North fans were saying similar things about Brad Scott and look where they're at now, so be careful what you wish for Port fans.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

None of us are getting ahead of ourselves, we know from experience just how hard it is to win a flag.
However, we are more than happy to point out the fact our era is far from over, this thread case in point given it was made in 2014.

A premiership would be an absolute bonus this year IMO.

We're essentially rebuilding with the amount of kids and younger players we're running through our side.

The club just hasn't come out and told the fans "Don't expect anything for 5 years" like other teams do.

Bruhn, Holmes, SDK, Dempsey, Clark, Henry, Conway, Neale, Mullin, & O'Sullivan are all either best 22, or have played in the early stages of this season.

Most clubs would hide behind the gaze of a rebuild if they were doing that, and they'd have every right to do so.

Geelong don't. They'll play the youngsters when they're ready and still go out and try to compete for premierships every year.

It's a bob each way by the club with an eye on the now and the future, and as a supporter it's a pleasure seeing them operate that way.

 

[Pipefitter]

Unfortunately for all of us other clubs hoping for the era to be over, Geelong are just a master class in list management.

 

[Taper]

Unfortunately for all of us other clubs hoping for the era to be over, Geelong are just a master class in list management.

I've posted this elsewhere, but being able to bring in Bruhn, Henry, Clark, Bowes and Dempsey right after winning a premiership almost feels like highway robbery.

 

[Cleansweep17]

I've posted this elsewhere, but being able to bring in Bruhn, Henry, Clark, Bowes and Dempsey right after winning a premiership almost feels like highway robbery.

Who’s doing the robbing exactly?

 

[STPer18]

Who’s doing the robbing exactly?

Welcome back. Went MIA for a bit there after the Tiggies got walloped by one of the worst sides of all time.