Mega Thread General MFC Discussion IV – Roffey and Pert Gone, Bartlett Case Settled

[melbun]

After the trades I'm tipping Melbourne's 2025 ladder position to be
(a big number)
(2 digits)
[wait for it]

15

Any advances on 15?

 

[Dancing Potato]

After the trades I'm tipping Melbourne's 2025 ladder position to be
(a big number)
(2 digits)
[wait for it]

15

Any advances on 15?

Feels like anywhere between 6th and 16th is possible tbh.

12th feels about right for mine.

 

[Scythe94]

After the trades I'm tipping Melbourne's 2025 ladder position to be
(a big number)
(2 digits)
[wait for it]

15

Any advances on 15?

Think we still have a bit too much talent to finish as low as 15th (provided we stay healthy).

But therein lies the problem – not enough talent (or competent coaching) to realistically contend, but not bad enough to bottom out properly.

Mid-table mediocrity until Goodwin is gone

 

[Topkent]

My care factor for next year is as low as it's ever been before. I seriously despise Melbourne, the coaches and the captain as well as a few of the players.

I don't feel anything watching our games anymore. I ****ing hate Simon Goodwin

Simon Goodwin

Age

47

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

for that. If you offered me 2nd on the ladder right now but it was the same contest and defence style, or 9th on the ladder but it was attacking footy wouldn't even consider it for a second. 9th it is

 

[Jibroni]

After the trades I'm tipping Melbourne's 2025 ladder position to be
(a big number)
(2 digits)
[wait for it]

15

Any advances on 15?

We finished 2 games out of the 8 in a season where most things that could go wrong did.

With a healthy list well make the eight next year.

 

[Bluelegs]

Think we still have a bit too much talent to finish as low as 15th (provided we stay healthy).

But therein lies the problem – not enough talent (or competent coaching) to realistically contend, but not bad enough to bottom out properly.

Mid-table mediocrity until Goodwin is gone

We sold our first rounder so it doesn't matter where we finish!

 

[Scythe94]

We sold our first rounder so it doesn't matter where we finish!

But think of the difference it'd make to our third-rounder!

 

[Scythe94]

Never mind, that's gone too

 

[Bluelegs]

Never mind, that's gone too

Who are we death-riding next year?

checks notes

BRISBANE?!

 

[Toump Ass]

It's like the whole mantra of the club changed going into 22. Remember the leaders talking about not disrespecting their team mates in any circumstance? Celebrating the little victories? Having each other's backs? That all seemed to go out the window post premiership. You can argue all you like about us having poor years in 22 and 23 and what might have cost us, but reality is we weren't that far off it and s* like this can be the difference to mindset and energy and winning a flag.

Pretty funny isn't it. In 2021 the club was posting pictures of Lever wiping up Gatorade off the changeroom floor because "everyone's in it together". Next year Jake Melksham is in hospital because he got an infected hand after punching a mouthy Steve May at a cheeseburger restaurant. From not putting your teammates down to literal public brawls.

What a bunch of campaigners.

 

[Young Redleg]

The other day I watched the replay of the second half of our win over GWS in R23, 2018. **** me we were fun to watch back then. Fast, aggressive, risky, free flowing footy. I even felt deeply nostalgic for some of the players who we had at that time (Jetta, Hibberd, Jones, Vandenberg, etc).

I can't believe that side was actually coached by Simon Goodwin

Simon Goodwin

Age

47

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

given how dire our game style has become under his watch.

 

[Crusty Demon]

Pretty funny isn't it. In 2021 the club was posting pictures of Lever wiping up Gatorade off the changeroom floor because "everyone's in it together". Next year Jake Melksham is in hospital because he got an infected hand after punching a mouthy Steve May at a cheeseburger restaurant. From not putting your teammates down to literal public brawls.

What a bunch of campaigners.

To 2024 and not even giving a s*** about Trac having several life threatening operations! It's actually laughable how different the feel is. It's like Goody and the leaders have just given up on that stuff since the flag. Arrogance, expecting it to all happen again without changing the list or the way we play and moving away from those little things that separated us from a few of the solid sides in 21 etc.

 

[Daemon]

The other day I watched the replay of the second half of our win over GWS in R23, 2018. **** me we were fun to watch back then. Fast, aggressive, risky, free flowing footy. I even felt deeply nostalgic for some of the players who we had at that time (Jetta, Hibberd, Jones, Vandenberg, etc).

I can't believe that side was actually coached by Simon Goodwin given how dire our game style has become under his watch.

Yeah that era of attacking footy was exciting. Now it's absolutely dreadful.

 

[Bluelegs]

The other day I watched the replay of the second half of our win over GWS in R23, 2018. **** me we were fun to watch back then. Fast, aggressive, risky, free flowing footy. I even felt deeply nostalgic for some of the players who we had at that time (Jetta, Hibberd, Jones, Vandenberg, etc).

I can't believe that side was actually coached by Simon Goodwin given how dire our game style has become under his watch.

That day was some of the most fun I've had at the footy.

 

[Young Redleg]

That day was some of the most fun I've had at the footy.

Yep it almost felt like a public celebration rather than an actual football game. Our finals spot had been confirmed a week before so you could tell the team played as if they had nothing to lose.

 

[PerfectFooty]

I missed that game with some commitment and have never got around to watching that game in full. But i remember chatting about the jumpers we wore that match

 

[MarcMaverick]

I missed that game with some commitment and have never got around to watching that game in full. But i remember chatting about the jumpers we wore that match

That and the "Proud To Belong" jumpers I wished we wore way more often.

 

[schmuttt]

That day was some of the most fun I've had at the footy.

The last two games of the H&A into those two MCG finals were honestly the best days I've had following this club. 2021 was obviously incredible but the year was kinda ****ing shit for obvious reasons.

 

[Scythe94]

That day was some of the most fun I've had at the footy.

Seconded. It was only a few of months before I moved away from Melbourne, so a nice send-off from a lifetime of weekly live footy – that and the two MCG finals wins in successive weeks were unreal.

 

[jhong]

Seconded. It was only a few of months before I moved away from Melbourne, so a nice send-off from a lifetime of weekly live footy – that and the two MCG finals wins in successive weeks were unreal.

For me it was the 87 finals ( apart from the pre-lim loss) . We had waited so long . Watching Flower play in a final was something i will treasure for as long as i can think , and we played some amazing attacking footy , each to their own i guess.

 

[tomcruise]

The other day I watched the replay of the second half of our win over GWS in R23, 2018. **** me we were fun to watch back then. Fast, aggressive, risky, free flowing footy. I even felt deeply nostalgic for some of the players who we had at that time (Jetta, Hibberd, Jones, Vandenberg, etc).

I can't believe that side was actually coached by Simon Goodwin given how dire our game style has become under his watch.

Kennedy-Harris, what a throw-back

I miss serious-face Craig Jennings in the coaches box.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Kennedy-Harris, what a throw-back

I miss serious-face Craig Jennings in the coaches box.

That was in the game vs WCE in 2017 when TMac had a night and kicked his 5th goal.

 

[Topkent]

We finished 2 games out of the 8 in a season where most things that could go wrong did.

With a healthy list well make the eight next year.

By most things you meant Oliver. Nice cope though

 

[jhong]

I think part of the problem is this team has been drilled to play a kick it down the line game , whenever the pressure comes on , the team reverts to this , out of instinct . New coach ,new mindset .

 

[Charlie_s123]

The other day I watched the replay of the second half of our win over GWS in R23, 2018. **** me we were fun to watch back then. Fast, aggressive, risky, free flowing footy. I even felt deeply nostalgic for some of the players who we had at that time (Jetta, Hibberd, Jones, Vandenberg, etc).

I can't believe that side was actually coached by Simon Goodwin given how dire our game style has become under his watch.

I was living in Bali at the time and every weekend I'd go to my local sports bar order a bucket of 10 beers on ice for $10 and watch the Dees play the most exciting footy they'd played in years.

Didn't know how good I had it!