Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[cats_09]

Looks like a mummy ruck to me, clearly the best ruck outside of the afl. He'd make an immediate impact

Not sure he would make an immediate impact - he wasn't exactly the dominant ruck in VFL matches this past season when he was coming up against AFL experienced rucks who weren't the preferred senior option. Pittonet was the only experienced ruck he really came out on top of, while against Essendon Nick Bryan was the dominant ruck, and Crossley's teammate spent more time in the ruck than him such was his lack of impact

Yes, at 198cm he's a similar build to Mumford - but it's a new era where Mumford style rucks really aren't the dominant force in the AFL they used to be. That's also not the style of ruck we've generally shown a preference for over recent years where we look more towards the mobile style ruck that provides something around the ground

If you look at the top 12 rucks from this past season based on average hit outs, Toby Nankervis at 199cm is the only one with his height listed as shorter than 200cm; the average height of the other 11 is 204cm

Even if Crossley ends up on an AFL list ahead of next season, it wouldn't be surprising to see him spending at least half the season in the VFL trying to work on his fitness

 

[CatRiot]

If we can trade in our F2 to get Jaques that would be a good result imo.

Use our next 2 picks on talls. 2/3 of Gerreyn, Sims or Stumpf.

Last pick on a mature ager.

That would be my aim if I’m Wells/Mackie.

I really like Hynes if available around 18-24... I'd pull trigger on him. High production, big body and goal kicker. Ticks a lot of boxes at that pick range.

 

[year of the cat]

I really like Hynes if available around 18-24... I'd pull trigger on him. High production, big body and goal kicker. Ticks a lot of boxes at that pick range.

Could absolutely live with that if we trade our FF. Him or Shanahan. Not sure whether either will be available though by the time club is prepared to trade out their pick.

 

[ShadowCat]

Earlier article posted about Cillian Burke was from July - a lot has changed since then. Irish article from 2 weeks or so ago confirms he's likely coming, amongst other media sources.

Would be more surprised if he didn't come now - especially after we cut Furphy.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

If we can trade in our F2 to get Jaques that would be a good result imo.

Use our next 2 picks on talls. 2/3 of Gerreyn, Sims or Stumpf.

Last pick on a mature ager.

That would be my aim if I’m Wells/Mackie.

I would be happy to trade an f2 for Jacques. I agree we need whichever kpf who is decent is left.

I think we might need go go early on Jack Henderson and take him in the 50s or 60s. Probably a mature ruck too but we could save that for one of our 3 rookie picks (ideally you do the same with henderson but I think he might be gone by then).

 

[year of the cat]

I would be happy to trade an f2 for Jacques. I agree we need whichever kpf who is decent is left.

I think we might need go go early on Jack Henderson and take him in the 50s or 60s. Probably a mature ruck too but we could save that for one of our 3 rookie picks (ideally you do the same with henderson but I think he might be gone by then).

As they say you can’t have it all. I’d assume that Wells would have a fair idea as to whether we need to prioritise a second tall in front of Henderson.

There will be other clubs coming for those talls in the second night of the draft. I’m hoping we can (and we really should) grab at least one. I’m probably leaning slightly towards Gerreyn in front of Sims and Stumpf at the moment but there’s little in it. The athleticism of Stumpf is appealing, the marking of Sims is similarly and Gerreyn’s aggression and agility for a big guy is impressive.

Regardless we hopefully pick up a couple of decent kids.

 

[foxdog50]

I'm guessing people's views are all different , but what size do people classifiy in height a Key Forward? I'd go 194cm up wards, but are some here expecting to be a min 2mt mark?

 

[year of the cat]

I'm guessing people's views are all different , but what size do people classifiy in height a Key Forward? I'd go 194cm up wards, but are some here expecting to be a min 2mt mark?

More about talent than height for mine.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I'm guessing people's views are all different , but what size do people classifiy in height a Key Forward? I'd go 194cm up wards, but are some here expecting to be a min 2mt mark?

I mean it's more about style of play than the height number but i had a real drawn out argument with a pies supporters during the Henry trade because he was claiming Henry was a key forward. Henry is clearly not but that's not talent driven it's genuinely a height thing. Curnow and J. Reiwoldt clearly are and are about 5cm taller. So if you want a cut off it'll be between 189cm and 194cm.

 

[My Tilly]

More about talent than height for mine.

Not in today's era.

You must be at least 6ft'4 bare minimum to hold down a key post position.

 

[Turbocat]

I'm guessing people's views are all different , but what size do people classifiy in height a Key Forward? I'd go 194cm up wards, but are some here expecting to be a min 2mt mark?

List the KPF in the afl .. I doubt too many are less than 194cm… it depends on the player. I want a player who can win their own ball in contested marks , have the knowledge to use leading patterns to get some easier ball on the lead.. and be a good setshot. Its rare you get everything

For example..the kid Jobe Shannahan is the 194cm height and looks a talent. He kicked 11 goals from 3 games at VFL level. It might be nice to have an extra inch but its about reach , spring and read of the ball. And he seems to get the ball a lot.

Ideally the KPF height (whatever it is) creates concerns for the opposition … being slightly short and more agile may cause issues …. as the slightly smaller defenders are not always used to play as KPD. The trend towards small forwards probably is due to its hard to be an influential marking key .. And having height alone with out KPF attributes rarely works or one would just put rucks forward.

 

[Del28562]

It's not like guys stick to positions on the ground anymore for key positions. Scrimshaw held up as a key back last year for the hawks. It's all about systems and making it hard to mark really.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I'm guessing people's views are all different , but what size do people classifiy in height a Key Forward? I'd go 194cm up wards, but are some here expecting to be a min 2mt mark?

It’s an odd discussion point to nail these days… I think the simple answer is things are trending in two but equally valid directions…

Teams who want that tall contested marking forward are going the 200+cm king/Darcy style new generation of lanky key forwards.

The other end of the equation is clubs are keen on those 190-195ish cm power key forwards who have strength and speed to go with their game. You can almost justify having ideally 1 of each causing havoc in different ways.

I think simply put if you are talented enough, there is a spot in the game for you regardless of your measurements

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Could absolutely live with that if we trade our FF. Him or Shanahan. Not sure whether either will be available though by the time club is prepared to trade out their pick.

Surely we're due for a guy named Cooper who makes it?

 

[Del28562]

Not sure he would make an immediate impact - he wasn't exactly the dominant ruck in VFL matches this past season when he was coming up against AFL experienced rucks who weren't the preferred senior option. Pittonet was the only experienced ruck he really came out on top of, while against Essendon Nick Bryan was the dominant ruck, and Crossley's teammate spent more time in the ruck than him such was his lack of impact

Yes, at 198cm he's a similar build to Mumford - but it's a new era where Mumford style rucks really aren't the dominant force in the AFL they used to be. That's also not the style of ruck we've generally shown a preference for over recent years where we look more towards the mobile style ruck that provides something around the ground

If you look at the top 12 rucks from this past season based on average hit outs, Toby Nankervis at 199cm is the only one with his height listed as shorter than 200cm; the average height of the other 11 is 204cm

Even if Crossley ends up on an AFL list ahead of next season, it wouldn't be surprising to see him spending at least half the season in the VFL trying to work on his fitness

I watch plenty of footy and he's a far better ruck than Stanley ever will be. He puts himself in good positions, he's tap work is excellent. There's about 6 guys in the vfl that would make instant impacts at afl level and he's one of them.

Tye hourigan is tom Stewart 8 years ago. Similar height and similar player, allows us to use Stewart in the middle and this guy develop and walk into the team in the back half instantly.
Isivic gets the other spot, he can play

 

[Vdubs]

It’s an odd discussion point to nail these days… I think the simple answer is things are trending in two but equally valid directions…

Teams who want that tall contested marking forward are going the 200+cm king/Darcy style new generation of lanky key forwards.

The other end of the equation is clubs are keen on those 190-195ish cm power key forwards who have strength and speed to go with their game. You can almost justify having ideally 1 of each causing havoc in different ways.

I think simply put if you are talented enough, there is a spot in the game for you regardless of your measurements

So true.



Nick Watson.
170 cm




Sam Darcy.
208 cm

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I watch plenty of footy and he's a far better ruck than Stanley ever will be. He puts himself in good positions, he's tap work is excellent. There's about 6 guys in the vfl that would make instant impacts at afl level and he's one of them.

Tye hourigan is tom Stewart 8 years ago. Similar height and similar player, allows us to use Stewart in the middle and this guy develop and walk into the team in the back half instantly.
Isivic gets the other spot, he can play

Crossley isn't fit enough and even if he was his history will see him not get taken.

While I would love to see tye taken out of Traralgon I doubt it happens.

Don't mind ivisic and I rate him if someone gets him as a rookie but we probably have bigger needs positionally.

 

[MacStradbroke]

I watch plenty of footy and he's a far better ruck than Stanley ever will be. He puts himself in good positions, he's tap work is excellent. There's about 6 guys in the vfl that would make instant impacts at afl level and he's one of them.

Tye hourigan is tom Stewart 8 years ago. Similar height and similar player, allows us to use Stewart in the middle and this guy develop and walk into the team in the back half instantly.
Isivic gets the other spot, he can play

A better ruck than Stanley, come on you’re having a lend now. 200 AFL games v 10 says so too.

 

[Turbocat]

As they say you can’t have it all. I’d assume that Wells would have a fair idea as to whether we need to prioritise a second tall in front of Henderson.

There will be other clubs coming for those talls in the second night of the draft. I’m hoping we can (and we really should) grab at least one. I’m probably leaning slightly towards Gerreyn in front of Sims and Stumpf at the moment but there’s little in it. The athleticism of Stumpf is appealing, the marking of Sims is similarly and Gerreyn’s aggression and agility for a big guy is impressive.

Regardless we hopefully pick up a couple of decent kids.

Id not exclude FloydB from that group if we are look at later or Rookie. he seems to move around like a mid..my guess is he could be trained to be a Blitz type

Yes on the three talls you have named. I prefer Sims but Gerryern does a lot right and I like his aggression , has he played much in non ruck roles? If we think Duncan is probably to pull the pin half way thru the year … do run the risk and wait till then to add the mature tall? Perhaps have him inside already in our VFL?

If we ended up adding some of the player that have been mentioned we will have done well… and as usual id not put it past SW to call a name that has been under debated or noticed like Sulzberger or Day Wicks or someone...

 

[cats_09]

A better ruck than Stanley, come on you’re having a lend now. 200 AFL games v 10 says so too.

We all know that Stanley was never in the top echelon of rucks during his career, but he's been a damn solid player for us across the past decade and gets the raw end of the deal at times from the fans

 

[BORIS332]

Finlayson is cooked for a variety of reasons and will be lucky to be on a list in 2026.
Marshall is one concussion off retirement.
Lord spent the back end of this year failing in the sanfl.

Luko is the most talented of them but also incredibly flakey. Could go either way.

They are pretty thin for forwards as evidenced by playing sav forward.

Regardless of how you rate them, they have 5 KPFs on their list, it’s unlikely they’ll draft a 6th.

 

[year of the cat]

Id not exclude FloydB from that group if we are look at later or Rookie. he seems to move around like a mid..my guess is he could be trained to be a Blitz type

Yes on the three talls you have named. I prefer Sims but Gerryern does a lot right and I like his aggression , has he played much in non ruck roles? If we think Duncan is probably to pull the pin half way thru the year … do run the risk and wait till then to add the mature tall? Perhaps have him inside already in our VFL?

If we ended up adding some of the player that have been mentioned we will have done well… and as usual id not put it past SW to call a name that has been under debated or noticed like Sulzberger or Day Wicks or someone...

Floyd looks to me more that mobile ruck that can push forward rather than a KPF that can ruck if that makes sense? I’d prefer the latter as a priority atm.

If we are talking other names, Hamish Davis is another whose vision I like the look of. Goal kicking mids are gold. He looks to have plenty of development and potential.

 

[Del28562]

We all know that Stanley was never in the top echelon of rucks during his career, but he's been a damn solid player for us across the past decade and gets the raw end of the deal at times from the fans

Rhys has too many brain fades. Had a great 22 finals though.

The miss in this year's prelim is rhys career

 

[Catman]

Rhys has too many brain fades. Had a great 22 finals though.

The miss in this year's prelim is rhys career

On one leg and rushed into taking the kick. I'm not holding that against him.

 

[CatRiot]

Are we able to trade picks with clubs atm or before the draft? or is that only live during draft night?