Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[Turbocat]

The only live trade I see us potentially going for is one of Tigers picks 18, 20, 23, 24... and for a F1. If it's 24, then we might get their F2 for our F3 thrown in.

imo…if we trade it ..its not going to be equitable on pick number… its going to cost us… so 24 for our FR1 type deal. If we do better than that then great but to me its not about trying to get an equitable number …it will be based on a specific player who we rate higher than the number he has fallen to … and is potentially better than who we may be able to get with our Fr1

 

[iameviljez]

Im a bit sus on listed heights but footywire has fog the same as Tex…. but if agree on him being the Kersten type.


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Tex has always been on the shorter side for a key forward, but he's a different generation.

 

[CatRiot]

imo…if we trade it ..its not going to be equitable on pick number… its going to cost us… so 24 for our FR1 type deal. If we do better than that then great but to me its not about trying to get an equitable number …it will be based on a specific player who we rate higher than the number he has fallen to … and is potentially better than who we may be able to get with our Fr1

very true

 

[CatRiot]

What's the chances we go for Dodson? I reckon it's slim given the two young rucks on list... Suspect we will go for Key Position or Midfielder, or Midfielder/Forward type if we trade for an earlier pick.

I think we will be able to snare Flanker/Winger types, or role types with late picks.

 

[And_ROOS]

Highlights my main problem with Stanley.
I acknowledge that he has been more than useful on occasions but his hit outs, even when he wins the contest, are often ineffective.

And thats my issue with Rhys. If he is in his purple patch, he has 50 hit outs, 45 to advantage and we win by 40 points.

Instead he wasn't good or bad Stanley, he was just sorta there, dominates the hit outs but not much comes of it.

Its why his best role in the team is around the ground rather than in the middle. People reference 2022 but forget that in finals he took the hit outs and dropped to about CHB, and Blicavs went on ball in his spot. He reads play well and impacts contests from that spot.

Its why I was hoping for finals we would leave Blicavs in defence, use SDK in the Blicavs role which was suiting him this season, and use Stanley to take the centre bounces and let SDK do the work around the ground where he is a better ball user and gets more of it.

Next year will be interesting, surely the club backs in SDK in the ruck because Conway can't stay fit and Stanleys ceiling will drop as he keeps getting older.

Would think we see Blicavs in defence, SDK/Conway rotate in the middle, Neale forward, and Stanley only comes in if there is an injury (i.e Stanley can play forward so if Neale is injured or in dire form we can use him there, if Blicavs is injured put SDK in defence and Stanley into the ruck.)

 

[FishGutz]

I was told yesterday again our target this draft is Hotton. Interestingly his brother was delisted by Saints today, so there goes the theory of some people in here Saints take him based on his brother being there.


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[Kobe Gryant]

I was told yesterday again our target this draft is Hotton. Interestingly his brother was delisted by Saints today, so there goes the theory of some people in here Saints take him based on his brother being there.


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It really is a tough industry. I remember a lot of hype for him just two years ago, and just like that it's over.

Wouldn't be against giving him a shot vs pick 260, particularly if we could get Taj too.

The Saints are such a basket case that I genuinely struggle to blame kids who don't make it who've been unfortunate enough to end up there.

At a Geelong, Hawthorn, Collingwood, or Sydney you'd back their judgement, and there's probably nothing there talent wise or the application is subpar.

Saints (among others) don't get that benefit of the doubt IMO.

 

[FishGutz]

It really is a tough industry. I remember a lot of hype for him just two years ago, and just like that it's over.

Wouldn't be against giving him a shot vs pick 260, particularly if we could get Taj too.

The Saints are such a basket case that I genuinely struggle to blame kids who don't make it who've been unfortunate enough to end up there.

At a Geelong, Hawthorn, Collingwood, or Sydney you'd back their judgement, and there's probably nothing there talent wise or the application is subpar.

Saints (among others) don't get that benefit of the doubt IMO.

Agree with absolutely all of this. Kids who “fail” at these poorly ran clubs have to be taken with a grain of salt. I think he’s definitely worth a shot somewhere. Maybe we ourselves have too many similar to him? But if we do get his brother, I’ll be for it.


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[D BRIDGE]

Might have to watch it again but he marked it and I think the ball was given straight to him. He got back up straightaway but this was probably just on adrenaline. So he was in the position of being injured and draining a clock at the same time.

Even if you think it was a mistake, saying it was dumb I don't think is accurate

I'll never think it was a well played out situation by not only Stanley, but also our experienced on-field leaders.

The moment Stanley sensed he was really battling (which was almost instantly) he should have put the ball down and sat on the ground... The umps would have stopped the clocked straight away and he could have gone off and had another non injured player take the shot.

Even if he kicks the goal... It's not like he is going to be in the next ruck contest because he could hardly move.

By doing what he done, he bled time off the clock by being slow to take the shot + missed the shot + was still on the ground whilst injured.

Bone head play when we needed to do everything correct to have a chance to win.

I don't just blame Stanley, but also our leaders on-field.

The very second I noticed he was hurt I thought this was what should have happened to save time, have a non injured player take the shot and to get a fit player on the ground.

If we do everything correct... we still have a chance to win.... be it only a small chance.

But the way it played out we had zero.

It was as if we don't train for those situations.

 

[year of the cat]

What's the chances we go for Dodson? I reckon it's slim given the two young rucks on list... Suspect we will go for Key Position or Midfielder, or Midfielder/Forward type if we trade for an earlier pick.

I think we will be able to snare Flanker/Winger types, or role types with late picks.

Can’t see the need. He’s a nice player but we are covered in young rucks as you say. Think we’d have a lot prioritised before him.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I'll never think it was a well played out situation by not only Stanley, but also our experienced on-field leaders.

The moment Stanley sensed he was really battling (which was almost instantly) he should have put the ball down and sat on the ground... The umps would have stopped the clocked straight away and he could have gone off and had another non injured player take the shot.

Even if he kicks the goal... It's not like he is going to be in the next ruck contest because he could hardly move.

By doing what he done, he bled time off the clock by being slow to take the shot + missed the shot + was still on the ground whilst injured.

Bone head play when we needed to do everything correct to have a chance to win.

I don't just blame Stanley, but also our leaders on-field.

The very second I noticed he was hurt I thought this was what should have happened to save time, have a non injured player take the shot and to get a fit player on the ground.

If we do everything correct... we still have a chance to win.... be it only a small chance.

But the way it played out we had zero.

It was as if we don't train for those situations.

I just think there were so many blown chances in that match that throwing it at Stanley, who probably didn't even know he was injured until the clock counting down, is taking too narrow a focus

 

[D BRIDGE]

I just think there were so many blown chances in that match that throwing it at Stanley, who probably didn't even know he was injured until the clock counting down, is taking too narrow a focus

It wasn't the reason we lost the game... but it was a situation we had control of and we didn't play it out correctly.

It cost us a throw at the stumps from 100m (on a sideways angle) to make a GF.

 

[Tony Barber]

Might have to watch it again but he marked it and I think the ball was given straight to him. He got back up straightaway but this was probably just on adrenaline. So he was in the position of being injured and draining a clock at the same time.

Even if you think it was a mistake, saying it was dumb I don't think is accurate

You can put the ball on the ground and the ump will blow the whistle and the clock is stopped. I dont expect many to have that intelligence though. I wouldn't. Especially with adrenaline.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

You can put the ball on the ground and the ump will blow the whistle and the clock is stopped. I dont expect many to have that intelligence though. I wouldn't. Especially with adrenaline.

Yeah, you're relying on the umpires to can the clock off. If he makes the kick, which he still likely expected to, then we're not even talking about it

 

[moond0g]

imo…if we trade it ..its not going to be equitable on pick number… its going to cost us… so 24 for our FR1 type deal. If we do better than that then great but to me its not about trying to get an equitable number …it will be based on a specific player who we rate higher than the number he has fallen to … and is potentially better than who we may be able to get with our Fr1

I agree generally, especially if this years draft is supposed to be stronger than next years.

Richmond might be the exception though. They have so many picks it might be in their interest to spread some of thos late teens/early 20's picks into next year. But even if true, there might be someone offering more than us to get them.

 

[D BRIDGE]

You can put the ball on the ground and the ump will blow the whistle and the clock is stopped. I dont expect many to have . I wouldn't. Especially with adrenaline.

Yep and the clock stops... a fresh player comes on... a new player is given the ball and he can go to his spot and as soon as time comes back on kick the goal in 2 seconds (saving time).

I also mentioned us potentially not training for such situations... I know it's rare one.

I'd be disappointed If we didn't prep our players for this kind of situation and have them fully understand the rules.

These guys are pros and coaches are pros.

It was a controllable situation and our leaders should have been onto it straight away.

Performing and making the right decisions under adrenaline can make all the difference between winners and losers.

We missed a trick here... I do doubt we win even if we play the situation correctly... but you never know.

On to 2025.

 

[Tony Barber]

The real problem was Big O got injured, and that gave Rhys the opportunity to absolutely dominate and take control of the match and he didn't.

When we beat Brisbane earlier in the season we looked shaky in the ruck early, Big O got injured and Conway stepped up.

I don't have an issue with an injured Rhy rushing to take the kick, although if he was that cooked he should have stopped the clock and got someone else to take the shot.

My issue is he should have dominated the game against inexperienced rucks, gave our midfield service on a silver platter and yet despite smashing them in the numbers for hit outs he didn't really have enough of an impact.

You could argue the other way.
When Pods was injured in the 2011 GF you could say that the Collingwood defence should have taken control.
We know it didn't.

I believe heavily in the chemistry of a side. And you cant plan for every curve ball.

 

[supahoops]

It really is a tough industry. I remember a lot of hype for him just two years ago, and just like that it's over.

Wouldn't be against giving him a shot vs pick 260, particularly if we could get Taj too.

The Saints are such a basket case that I genuinely struggle to blame kids who don't make it who've been unfortunate enough to end up there.

At a Geelong, Hawthorn, Collingwood, or Sydney you'd back their judgement, and there's probably nothing there talent wise or the application is subpar.

Saints (among others) don't get that benefit of the doubt IMO.

Yeah I assumed Hotton went top 20 in his draft year makes you take the phantoms with a grain of salt.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I was told yesterday again our target this draft is Hotton. Interestingly his brother was delisted by Saints today, so there goes the theory of some people in here Saints take him based on his brother being there.


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I'm not sure how they think they are going to get an early enough pick for him. I'd love to see it but it's pretty optimistic.

 

[CatRiot]

Does Hotton play like Peter Matera

Peter Matera

Age

55

Ht

183cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

4.9

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.6

3star

G

0.6

3star

? Or more like a Steele Sidebottom

22

Steele Sidebottom

Age

34

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.4

5star

K

14.1

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.7

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

24.0

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

12.0

5star

M

4.5

4star

T

4.3

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

31.6

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

17.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

6.0

5star

 

[Gunf]

I'm not sure how they think they are going to get an early enough pick for him. I'd love to see it but it's pretty optimistic.

This i me atm... I like the look of Hotton but in no world do i see us getting a pick early enough to get him

 

[Gunf]

You could argue the other way.
When Pods was injured in the 2011 GF you could say that the Collingwood defence should have taken control.
We know it didn't.

I believe heavily in the chemistry of a side. And you cant plan for every curve ball.

This is one of the most important things when it comes to team sports.

We see it every year with sides including ours over the years when injuries happen a lot it throws everything out the window and even once you get everyone back it can take a month or even more for things to click.

 

[Reg Hickey]

What's the chances we go for Dodson? I reckon it's slim given the two young rucks on list... Suspect we will go for Key Position or Midfielder, or Midfielder/Forward type if we trade for an earlier pick.

I think we will be able to snare Flanker/Winger types, or role types with late picks.

Don't see why we'd go for a 18yo ruck now, with Conway and Edwards both highly rated and already on the list.

The much bigger problem for us is who plays ruck in 2025, especially in the high probability scenario that Conway is injured and Stanley is either injured or diminished. No 18yo ruck is gonna help us there.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

This i me atm... I like the look of Hotton but in no world do i see us getting a pick early enough to get him

As I said I reckon the earliest we could trade in is gws at 15 (might be Richmond at 20) and I'd be staggered if he isn't gone by then.

 

[Gunf]

Don't see why we'd go for a 18yo ruck now, with Conway and Edwards both highly rated and already on the list.

The much bigger problem for us is who plays ruck in 2025, especially in the high probability scenario that Conway is injured and Stanley is either injured or diminished. No 18yo ruck is gonna help us there.

Agreed if we bring in another ruck it needs to be someone ready for games next year not in 3-5 years time