Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[Mr Meow]

Agree on the first sentence.

Completely disagree on the rest (the issue is Melbourne's stupid game plan not oliver) but you're entitled to your opinion.

I've watched almost every Melbourne game the past year. Oliver is not even close to A grade anymore. Rowell absolutely is. I'm going to go as far as saying you're not entitled to an opinion that current day Oliver is at the level of Rowell. No disrespect of course. It's just wrong. A bit like saying Mitch Duncan is basically still as good as Jack Sinclair.

 

[Turbocat]

Rowell is better purely because he's younger and has no off field risk but if you take those factors out on playing ability it's line ball. People forget how elite a player Oliver is because of the other stuff. But it's irrelevant as Oliver isn't gettable even if he wants out.

It depends on Melb ..and once he gets into 30 ..and they look at adding young draft players ..who knows. The catch ..They would still probably want too much for a guy who is at FA age. So ina way …I agree.. he is probably untradeable as each year he will be worth less

 

[D BRIDGE]

I've watched almost every Melbourne game the past year. Oliver is not even close to A grade anymore. Rowell absolutely is. I'm going to go as far as saying you're not entitled to an opinion that current day Oliver is at the level of Rowell. No disrespect of course. It's just wrong. A bit like saying Mitch Duncan is basically still as good as Jack Sinclair.

Rowell is better + much younger and with way less baggage.

We should be throwing the world at him... although landing him is probably unlikely.

Gotta have a dip though... he is a perfect fit for us.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I doubt it. They are stubborn. Unless Goodwin gets sacked and there's new management I don't see them agreeing to trade him at all (same with pickett).

What if the stubborn people are all sacked?

 

[My Tilly]

Let's get Rowell!
Bring the boy home Mr. Wells

 

[Commando]

Random question

Who 'could' we have selected with the r1 pick we used on Clark 7/8 whatever it was

 

[FootyLad0]

Random question

Who 'could' we have selected with the r1 pick we used on Clark 7/8 whatever it was

Ginbey, Phillipou, Ollie Hollands, Fletcher (father son to Lions), Busslinger, Elijah Hewitt were next 6 picks.

I’m happy with Clarky, none of those others really stands out to me.
Fletcher would have been bid matched, Ginbey or Phillipou maybe?

No real stand out option and we wanted and needed mids at the time.
Clarky is doing just fine

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Ginbey, Phillipou, Ollie Hollands, Fletcher (father son to Lions), Busslinger, Elijah Hewitt were next 6 picks.

I’m happy with Clarky, none of those others really stands out to me.
Fletcher would have been bid matched, Ginbey or Phillipou maybe?

No real stand out option and we wanted and needed mids at the time.
Clarky is doing just fine

Phillipou is the one, though iirc there were some questions on him wanting a trade home. With a time machine Jones or Weddle but no one was picking them at 8 on data available.

 

[Warhorse]

Ginbey, Phillipou, Ollie Hollands, Fletcher (father son to Lions), Busslinger, Elijah Hewitt were next 6 picks.

I’m happy with Clarky, none of those others really stands out to me.
Fletcher would have been bid matched, Ginbey or Phillipou maybe?

No real stand out option and we wanted and needed mids at the time.
Clarky is doing just fine

I would take all of them ahead of Clark with the exception of Busslinger. Clark starting to look like a bust

 

[Hinkley29]

I've watched almost every Melbourne game the past year. Oliver is not even close to A grade anymore. Rowell absolutely is. I'm going to go as far as saying you're not entitled to an opinion that current day Oliver is at the level of Rowell. No disrespect of course. It's just wrong. A bit like saying Mitch Duncan is basically still as good as Jack Sinclair.

Did you just tell a highly respected poster that they are not entitled to their opinion?

Ok then

 

[Mr Meow]

Did you just tell a highly respected poster that they are not entitled to their opinion?

Ok then

If you couldn't see that I was mucking around (it was simply a riff on the "with all due respect" routine), you're even more humourless than I already thought. Congratulations.

 

[Hinkley29]

If you couldn't see that I was mucking around (it was simply a riff on the "with all due respect" routine), you're even more humourless than I already thought. Congratulations.

Beep beep beep beep

 

[Mr Meow]

Beep beep beep beep

Instead of commenting on which sarcasm/jokes you do or don't pick up on, you could always stay on topic by actually offering your own opinion on what was being discussed.

Pot shots from the sidelines about discourse seem to be your preference. Not for the first time either.

 

[catscratchfever]

If SDK continues on his current course, I’d be willing to ship him out at season’s end. Ever since he broke his face he just hasn’t been the same player.

He must be worth a decent pick or 2. Use them to get another good mid (who can kick efficiently ), goodness knows we need one.

But it seems like Geelong will hang on to him. So pray for a miracle that he regains his 2022 form. I’d be more than happy to be proven wrong so JUST DO IT, SDK!

 

[CatToTheFuture]

If SDK continues on his current course, I’d be willing to ship him out at season’s end. Ever since he broke his face he just hasn’t been the same player.

He must be worth a decent pick or 2. Use them to get another good mid (who can kick efficiently ), goodness knows we need one.

But it seems like Geelong will hang on to him. So pray for a miracle that he regains his 2022 form. I’d be more than happy to be proven wrong so JUST DO IT, SDK!

Well he just signed for 2 years.

It's fine. Once Conway is back in the seniors SDK will go back to d50 and team up with COS to be the best backline combo since May met Lever.

Conway is coming back right?

 

[Warhorse]

If SDK continues on his current course, I’d be willing to ship him out at season’s end. Ever since he broke his face he just hasn’t been the same player.

He must be worth a decent pick or 2. Use them to get another good mid (who can kick efficiently ), goodness knows we need one.

But it seems like Geelong will hang on to him. So pray for a miracle that he regains his 2022 form. I’d be more than happy to be proven wrong so JUST DO IT, SDK!

I can't think of a more dissappointing player since 2022. Teams have worked out he is very soft and he melts under any physical pressure. He is someone I would keep but only because he is near worthless if traded.

 

[catscratchfever]

Well he just signed for 2 years.

It's fine. Once Conway is back in the seniors SDK will go back to d50 and team up with COS to be the best backline combo since May met Lever.

Conway is coming back right?

I do hope you’re right. Conway is a must, a real ruck by the looks of him - he reminds me of Damian Bourke; if Conway is half as good and a bit more durable I’ll be very happy. But how long do we have to wait? Back injuries are horrible - I know from my own experience that they can be totally debilitating, worse than a bad knee or just about anything else.

SDK obviously has the ability. His problems are all mental.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I do hope you’re right. Conway is a must, a real ruck by the looks of him - he reminds me of Damian Bourke; if Conway is half as good and a bit more durable I’ll be very happy. But how long do we have to wait? Back injuries are horrible - I know from my own experience that they can be totally debilitating, worse than a bad knee or just about anything else.

SDK obviously has the ability. His problems are all mental.

Well Gawn was like 24 when he got over the injuries and broke out. Xerri came on about age 24. Meek was 25ish? Rowan Marshall I think was a bit younger, like 23ish?

Conway is 21 years old currently. I do think that as soon as his body is ready he's immediately our best ruck though. It's a low bar.

 

[Baudolino]

I can't think of a more dissappointing player since 2022. Teams have worked out he is very soft and he melts under any physical pressure. He is someone I would keep but only because he is near worthless if traded.

I agree with you about him being our most disappointing player since 2022, but the bolded part is definitely not true. If anything his trade value right now is significantly higher than the actual value he offers to the side when he's out there. Young, multi-position 200cm+ key position players with a premiership on their resume already are a rare commodity. The prospect of him returning to his 2022 level will also be seductive to potential buyers, as everyone can see the potential is there. I guarantee we'd get a very good deal for him if we decided to trade him out while contracted (if we're assuming the rumours of a recent contract signing are correct).

 

[Commando]

Ginbey, Phillipou, Ollie Hollands, Fletcher (father son to Lions), Busslinger, Elijah Hewitt were next 6 picks.

I’m happy with Clarky, none of those others really stands out to me.
Fletcher would have been bid matched, Ginbey or Phillipou maybe?

No real stand out option and we wanted and needed mids at the time.
Clarky is doing just fine

Thanks for that, yes from memory there weren't any real stand outs
Maybe Philippou like you said but it's also about if the player wants to come down too

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Just a little rant.
I cursed on the draft night when The Suns took Bailey Humphrey and now every time Clark touches the ball.
In a draft that was deep as a tea spoon... it was as shallow as F. Bugger!!
Wish we had a top 10 pick the year after... a Windsor Curtain Wilson or even Caddy would've been nice to have.
FWIW Unfortunately for us we have a few youngsters that are highly rated that are simply not that good.
And i hate to say it young Clark well he is 21yo now... But has the words B. U. S. T. written all over him.
Fingers crossed that somehow he turns it around in an upward trajectory. But i can't see it.
The haunting words of... He has Joel Selwood traits got plenty sucked in. Including me.
On another note.
Disappointing for me is the stagnation and some would say the backward step that SDK has shown.
On the fence with all the trade speculation (re signed since).
But i'll sit tight to see if he can return to some sort of quality backline performances.
A SDK for Humphrey deal?? DONE!!! SIGN.... and RUN as quick as we can...

 

[Klink]

Just a little rant.
I cursed on the draft night when The Suns took Bailey Humphrey and now every time Clark touches the ball.
In a draft that was deep as a tea spoon... it was as shallow as F. Bugger!!
Wish we had a top 10 pick the year after... a Windsor Curtain Wilson or even Caddy would've been nice to have.
FWIW Unfortunately for us we have a few youngsters that are highly rated that are simply not that good.
And i hate to say it young Clark well he is 21yo now... But has the words B. U. S. T. written all over him.
Fingers crossed that somehow he turns it around in an upward trajectory. But i can't see it.
The haunting words of... He has Joel Selwood traits got plenty sucked in. Including me.
On another note.
Disappointing for me is the stagnation and some would say the backward step that SDK has shown.
On the fence with all the trade speculation (re signed since).
But i'll sit tight to see if he can return to some sort of quality backline performances.
A SDK for Humphrey deal?? DONE!!! SIGN.... and RUN as quick as we can...

Humphries would be amazing - but he appears to have settled up North. Signed with the Suns until the end of 2028. He was a big Cats fan growing up too.

I do have my doubts over Clark, too. The thing in his favour was his first year was a write off with that foot injury, and he is only 19 games in. Clearly needs to develop his tank, but I can understand concerns as he doesn't have many tricks and is very small. We clearly want to develop him quickly so he'll be given every chance and we will know in the next two years what we have there. Reckon he's 50/50 to make the grade and play 150+ games IMO.

Anyone who has any doubts as to Rowell's value and worth should watch a replay of the Suns v Dees games yesterday. This man is a star. I nearly fell off my chair when I read PO saying he preferred Oliver! Sorry PO!

We need to get this man through the door if he's leaving. $1.2M over 6 years if that's what it takes. He'd be worth every cent! We have obviously had a lot of success with our salary structure and not overpaying. Given the increase in salary cap and what some of these guys are being offered on the open market from rival VIC clubs, I'd hope we're adjusting as required and adopting a flexible approach in this regard to get the right players in. We're a gun mid or two short of being right in the thick of things the next few years IMO.

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

Clark is 20 & missed his first year with injury. Has played less than 20 games. He showed last week that he can extract the ball well and deliver a 50m bullet. He has excellent vision and is a tenacious tackler. Even last night, although he wasn’t clean, he still knew how to get to the ball. Like Zach Guthrie who was also underdeveloped, Clark just needs time. Can see him being an excellent mid in a couple of years.

Stewart, Humphries, Mannagh, Menagola. They weren’t ready to play AFL at Clarks age. Give him time.

 

[Strange Cat]

Let's get Rowell!
Bring the boy home Mr. Wells

Would absolutely love him down here but realistically will he leave now that the suns look to be steeping in the right direction?

 

[Strange Cat]

Clark is 20 & missed his first year with injury. Has played less than 20 games. He showed last week that he can extract the ball well and deliver a 50m bullet. He has excellent vision and is a tenacious tackler. Even last night, although he wasn’t clean, he still knew how to get to the ball. Like Zach Guthrie who was also underdeveloped, Clark just needs time. Can see him being an excellent mid in a couple of years.

Stewart, Humphries, Mannagh, Menagola. They weren’t ready to play AFL at Clarks age. Give him time.

It really needs to ****ing stop been saying this for the last two years he needs time the expectations of him being a Joel Selwood and being a superstar day dot is beyond ridiculous

Let the kids develop, they will have bad patches and make mistakes but that’s all part of it I think a lot of posters have forgotten how our crop of stars in the past took a long time to become what they did.