Goodes - surely must go this time

[lopozop]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

My team may be a rabble but at least i follow a real club. Sydney is a joke, with few 'supporters' that actually know anything about the game. You are not 'The Bloods', but merely the love child of the AFL, a relocated franchise.

 

[Lach72]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

Michael Johnson got 4 weeks in a preseason game last year and there was less in it than the one with Goodes

Indeed.

On the one hand we have a dirty filthy sniper protected species = zero weeks.
And on the other we have young kid, clean record, however, plays for Fremantle. 4 weeks

Do the math...

 

[DST]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

Burton's was assessed as reckless. How the hell was Goodes assessed as negligent?

I only saw the Burton one quickly, but I would assume that if it is front on contact then they will assess it as reckless rather negligent due to the AFL being keen to rub out front on head hight contact.

Both the Murphy and Burgyone cases were rated as negligent as they didn't approach the player from front on.

DST

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

The last reckless ruling was on Steven Dodd who had his tripping charge against Richmond's Jack Riewoldt downgraded from intentional to reckless. That was an action that was obviously going to have consequences and was an action that was always outside of body contact sanctioned as legal by the rules. Not a lot of reckless charges stick and a lot of intentional charges get downgraded to reckless. If Goodes was reckless, then so was Murphy and Waters.

Erh were you asleep last week?

ROUND 10
ADELAIDE v ESSENDON
Brett Burton (Ade) was cited for making forceful front-on contact against Henry Slattery (Ess) in Q1. The MRP assessed the incident as reckless, of low impact and high contact. Burton was issued with a two-match suspension with an early plea. The player admitted guilt and accepted the MRP penalty.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

Particularly considering Goodes only made contact with Selwood. But seriously, it was a nothing incident, and if anything, the offer is too much. There's no point in you all saying this 'if it was anyone else, it would have been 6/8/10/life' crap. If it was anyone else, they wouldn't have been reported.

So what did you think of the suspensions of Burton and Murphy last week?

 

[DST]

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Interesting that Bondy on 3AW said the MRP should have been assessed it as medium contact and let the Tribunal assess if that was correct or not. Said it was borderline medium/low impact in his opinion.

He read out a list of players charged and apart from Burton the MRP assessed them all as negligent, but different impact levels.

As I said before, the next time Goodes hits someone, they should call the stretcher out. Its the only way they will get him. But his luck has just about all run out.

In all honesty could you call that impact as medium the same as Burgoyne.

The Swans legal team would have had a field day with that one and had it downgraded to low within seconds at a tribunal hearing just based on the Burgoyne and Murphy cases alone.

DST

 

[rose jam]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

what happened to his carry over points from last years reprimand?

 

[Bollox]

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lol at the lynch mob assembling.

You people were so hoping he'd cop weeks for a nothing incident.

Must be damn frustrating for you all...unlucky

But hey...no point rubbing out blokes for bumps to the shoulder is there ?...that was the first contact and the intention unlike the others.

Correct ruling...noone should be rubbed out for a bump to the shoulder that ends up accidentally hitting the scone.

 

[Andrew Mc]

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It's a little known fact that the ACT technically includes Jervis Bay on the "NSW" Coast.

Ideally, this map should have two circles representing the ACT, one around Canberra and one around Jervis Bay.

I'm actually aware of that one (HMAS Creswell is within that area - I used to work in a defence related job), but that map is still crap.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

Bookmark this guys, Karma will catch up with Sydney.

If karma exists then your mob is in trouble.

*Injunction

 

[Clown]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

Michael Johnson got 4 weeks in a preseason game last year and there was less in it than the one with Goodes

You mean this?

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I believe it may have been reduced to three with the early guilty plea...

 

[Swanstar]

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I'm actually aware of that one (HMAS Creswell is within that area - I used to work in a defence related job), but that map is still crap.

Looks like it was drawn in paintbrush

 

[DST]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

ROUND 10
ADELAIDE v ESSENDON
Brett Burton (Ade) was cited for making forceful front-on contact against Henry Slattery (Ess) in Q1. The MRP assessed the incident as reckless, of low impact and high contact. Burton was issued with a two-match suspension with an early plea. The player admitted guilt and accepted the MRP penalty.

Based on that, it looks pretty plain that if it assessed as "front on contact" then they will assess it as reckless.

You could not argue that Goodes made front on contact based on the available footage.

DST

 

[RizzoTheRat]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

Burton's was assessed as reckless. How the hell was Goodes assessed as negligent?

Burton's was reckless because it was head on. It was likely he would have got that down to negligent if he challenged it at the Tribunal but he had a 20% loading hanging over him because of his poor record. It was better for him to cop the early plea.

 

[DST]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

what happened to his carry over points from last years reprimand?

Dropped off after 12 months just like every other player out there.

It would seem that public opinion on this site seems to shorten time.

DST

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

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obviously i am the only one here with the law degree.

negligent - when you are completely unaware that you could be doing something that could impact on someone else

reckless - when you consider the possibility that your actions may affect someone but choose to do it anyway (the middle ground to intentional)

how goodes action is negligent is beyond me, he is looking at selwood, how can he not appreicate the fact that his actions could be reckless

un____ing believable, against port i saw free kicks that had my sydney mate laughing, the stuff he gets away with -

Apparently you were never an English teacher.

 

[doofdoof]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

You mean this?

[YOUTUBE]Wl7c4mPF3Lk[/YOUTUBE]

I believe it may have been reduced to three with the early guilty plea...

Very similar incidents

 

[unstable punt]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

Deemetriou reckons the AFL is a socialist organisation, protects his babies like Swans and trys to run others into the ground, what a crock of shyte, f%*k l hate that tosser

 

[NitWit]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

This is a blight on our game.

Goodes really didn't do anything wrong.

 

[mcglee]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

Sometimes the points system just doesn't work with any common sense to it.
Ben Hudson gets the same points as Goodes and so also gets a reprimand after early plea but seriously 3 of his 5 points were based on intentional contact for a non event touch in the chest/stomach area that had absolutely no impact on Montagna at all. Goodes gets off because his head hit is rated as negligent contact. If it gets rated any higher, he gets a week. I'd love to know the MRP's definition of negligent head contact as compared to intentional tummy tapping and why one is worth 60% of the points given (Hudson 3/5 points) and the other only 20% of the points (Goodes 1/5 points).
For me the points are just too clinical and don't take into account common sense assessments of the actual offense committed.

 

[Arecsa]

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____ing pathetic, I expected no less from Andrew Dimwit and his muppet Anderson though. I hope someone lines up Goodes this weekend and gives the sniper some of his own medicine.

 

[BIGBEZ]

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Did Selwood get cited for headbutting Goodes Hip?

I hope he wins the brownlow the dirty pig

The eagles set the 'spirit' of the game from first bounce, they were crashing in everywhere at the start, they were trying to impose themselves, and it was working, Goodes would have none of that, he hit back, pretty much stopping the spirited flow from the eagles, I thought the 'hip clip' was a beauty, a slight stride variation and a 'flick' of the hip, bang! It had the eagles thinking twice after that, and Im pretty sure he doesnt give consideration to being reported in the heat of the battle, he stood up when intimidated, and we won!

 

[NitWit]

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Deemetriou reckons the AFL is a socialist organisation, protects his babies like Swans and trys to run others into the ground, what a crock of shyte, f%*k l hate that tosser

You didn't even see the "bump" if you can even call it that did you. You just got caught up in all the hype. Well done son keep up the good work. P.S Selwood is a dirty diver and played for the free kick.

 

[The Dukes Brian]

Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

Are we so naive as to think he was ever going to get off. Even with carry-over points, the AFL were never going to let him get rubbed out.

If the players and or clubs are serious about the AFL taking to things too far and having a protected species, then the Bulldogs should go back to the tribunal, re-contest Murphy's charge and use the Goodes incident as justification. Murphy was practically in play, both players were standing and the hit to the head was minimal and gets weeks. Adam Goodes blatantly hits someone whilst they were down over the ball with his hip, has carry-over points and walks away.

Its high time the other players and clubs stood up to the AFL and this would be a good starting point.

 

[rancidpants13]

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Just for the record, I think Adam Goodes is a terrific player and it was he who led the fightback that won them the game against my team. The shame of it is, the MRP has just made him, arguably, the most detested player in the competition. He was already considered a protected species.

I wouldn't mind betting the next time he makes anywhere near head high contact to an opponent, the player will stay down a little longer than necessary and Goodes will get rubbed out for something innocuous.
Justice? Tell it to the MRP. They've done our great game a disservice and effectively maligned a player who probably doesn't deserve the amount of shit he's getting on this thread. Consistency? pfft.. shame on you, MRP.

outstanding post, credit to you to put up something so sensible amid all the hysteria