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Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

While I agree that Goodes has been lucky over time, it seems there are some people who reckon it's Goodes' fault. The MRP is inconsistent, everyone knows that. You just have to look at this hit to prove this theory. Clear hit to the head but no suspension. It really is a lottery.

The rules were changed last year.
 
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Do do judge every case of it's merits, it just when totalling the points to determine punishment this becomes a factor. The problem is, the punters just look at the end result and don't factor good or bad records or whether the player has any standing demerit points. Most articles report the full story. It isn't that hard.


punters just look at the end result!!!!
too bad they dont allow protests hey punter, if so we would be calling this another fine cotton scandal.. Did the papers mention the Jude Bolton duck for a cheap free or that weak as custard 50meters late in the game..
Keep reading up on those quality Nikki tuggwell columns in Sydney!!!
 

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Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

of course he is considering it - he reckons he is a shoe-in for the brownlow. Shit after his last win he probably thinks he can have a shit year and still win.

What's up? Pav not getting enough Charlie Points for hitting the wood?
 
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punters just look at the end result!!!!
too bad they dont allow protests hey punter, if so we would be calling this another fine cotton scandal.. Did the papers mention the Jude Bolton duck for a cheap free or that weak as custard 50meters late in the game..
Keep reading up on those quality Nikki tuggwell columns in Sydney!!!

If the ball is locked into the attacking 50, then a free kick almost always comes out of it when the pressure is on and fatigue levels high.

If the ball had been in the WCE 50, the opposite result would have been likely with Sydney leaving empty handed.

Sydney don't have a huge pool of AFL journos, much to our frustration but Nikki does a good enough job. I don't mind, she doesn't offend the senses the way that Caro does down there.
 
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Pav is not a dirty sniper Goodes is. More respect for Pav than Sniper Goodes.

You are joking aren't you? Sniper? The guy is unfairly niggled into submission. WCE does not have the man power to stop Goodes fairly so they spend the first quarter scragging like amateurs.

As for WCE, Hunter the Hero is world class niggler, scragger and all round dead-leg exponent. It's too bad he's only good for 10 minutes a game because that just makes him no better than that goon Rob Copeland - no talent thug.
 
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.. Did the papers mention the Jude Bolton duck for a cheap free or that weak as custard 50meters late in the game.. [/FONT][/COLOR]
Keep reading up on those quality Nikki tuggwell columns in Sydney!!!

I think you'll find Jude said it himself straight after the game.

I don't read the Tele. SMH links to Realfooty which is pooled with the Age journos. Same news.
 
LOL I find the actions of the AFL downright hilarious atm

basically sydney can do no wrong as the AFL move to secure a population base in that area.

<shrug> the rules are Sydney players can belt anyone they like, have as many players on the ground as they like, and they won't cop a suspension unless they are injured in the action.

If sydney fail to win a premiership in 08 it will be a failure of demetriou's action plan :D
 

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You are joking aren't you? Sniper? The guy is unfairly niggled into submission. WCE does not have the man power to stop Goodes fairly so they spend the first quarter scragging like amateurs.

As for WCE, Hunter the Hero is world class niggler, scragger and all round dead-leg exponent. It's too bad he's only good for 10 minutes a game because that just makes him no better than that goon Rob Copeland - no talent thug.
In the first quarter the great Goodes along with the rest of the unmighty Bloods looked like shit. And yes you got his name right and if you saw the hanger he took in that game and the fact he ____ed up his direct opponent all night long you'd probably reconsider your slurs on him. ____ it after years of getting Judd Cuzzy and Co being tagged by the Cortina's we've built our own tagger his name is Selwood he looks a bit different from Hunter.:rolleyes:
 
Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

In the first quarter the great Goodes along with the rest of the unmighty Bloods looked like shit. And yes you got his name right and if you saw the hanger he took in that game and the fact he ____ed up his direct opponent all night long you'd probably reconsider your slurs on him. ____ it after years of getting Judd Cuzzy and Co being tagged by the Cortina's we've built our own tagger his name is Selwood he looks a bit different from Hunter.:rolleyes:

Is Hunter a match winner or a match loser. Given the result...

A mullet and a hanger does not a career make.
 
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Adam Goodes = Protected Sniper

No questions asked


I cannot believe the hysteria. The '3' incidents that everyone is talking about with Goodes.
Firstly a bit of a forearm belt into the back of Godfrey. Well honestly, that happens every week around the stoppages and off the ball. From what I could see Saturday night, Kerr did something very similar to Kirk off the ball.
The Thomas incident, every game you see blokes throw arms back like that and as for the last one, well, going on what they AFL has stated then it was worth a week, which he got and will be reduced with an early plea.

I seriously wonder how many people have actually played football on this forum. Go and watch a country match, and I don't necessarily mean the real bush leagues but the major leagues like the GFL or the Hampden and if the same consistency was applied there then a dozen players would be rubbed out every game.

To call Goodes a sniper is such an over reaction. Typical of most of the uneducated bogans that litter the crowds at the AFL.
 
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I cannot believe the hysteria. The '3' incidents that everyone is talking about with Goodes.
Firstly a bit of a forearm belt into the back of Godfrey. Well honestly, that happens every week around the stoppages and off the ball. From what I could see Saturday night, Kerr did something very similar to Kirk off the ball.
The Thomas incident, every game you see blokes throw arms back like that and as for the last one, well, going on what they AFL has stated then it was worth a week, which he got and will be reduced with an early plea.

I seriously wonder how many people have actually played football on this forum. Go and watch a country match, and I don't necessarily mean the real bush leagues but the major leagues like the GFL or the Hampden and if the same consistency was applied there then a dozen players would be rubbed out every game.

To call Goodes a sniper is such an over reaction. Typical of most of the uneducated bogans that litter the crowds at the AFL.
it all contributes to the AFL being a soft league, goodes hit was a free kick full stop move on.

everything that everyone is upset about is all traced back to the AFL heirachy. The rules, MRP past decisions (yes they have been wrong and i can understand why people think goodes should have missed games based on the current pathetic rules and interpretations and targeting of specific infringments week to week).

i can't comprehend though why everyone is blaming goodes, and as for his past discresions and this one, if you think they make him a "sniper" or a "dog" then you are only perpetuating the softness of the league, and endorsing the AFL's decisions on rule changes. they weren't the kerr headbutt, or crawford lunging elbow.

The head should be protected, but this hit, was an accident (body contact was intended and occured). It was an illegal action that for it's merits should have stayed a free kick.
 
Re: Adam Goodes offered a reprimand

I cannot believe the hysteria. The '3' incidents that everyone is talking about with Goodes.
Firstly a bit of a forearm belt into the back of Godfrey. Well honestly, that happens every week around the stoppages and off the ball. From what I could see Saturday night, Kerr did something very similar to Kirk off the ball.
The Thomas incident, every game you see blokes throw arms back like that and as for the last one, well, going on what they AFL has stated then it was worth a week, which he got and will be reduced with an early plea.

I seriously wonder how many people have actually played football on this forum. Go and watch a country match, and I don't necessarily mean the real bush leagues but the major leagues like the GFL or the Hampden and if the same consistency was applied there then a dozen players would be rubbed out every game.

To call Goodes a sniper is such an over reaction. Typical of most of the uneducated bogans that litter the crowds at the AFL.

Unfortunately a hit like that to the kidney area has quite a bit of potential to cause damage!!
 
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Unfortunately a hit like that to the kidney area has quite a bit of potential to cause damage!!

Exactly! So where is the scrutiny of the incident that Kerr did to Kirk? Geez i can only imagine if a Swans player did that they would be a thread right under the Goodes one :rolleyes:.
 
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Still waiting to hear what would have constitued a reckless bump from Goodes. Thats okay, I'm patient.

While I'm waiting, another question to the aether:

Has any player been cited this year for rough conduct (i.e. a head high bump) and not missed the following week?

Obviously Goodes now, but has there been any others in this season of the sacrosanct head?

We have been over this yesterday Mr Lizard, head hight contact will only be classed as reckless if the MRP finds that the contact came from the front.

Once again I refer you to the Burton and Michael Johnson cases that clearly refer to the fact that high front on contact resulted in a reckless grading.

Despite the ravings of plenty of journalists, reckless was never going to pinned to this charge. Greame Bond from 3AW (noted as the foremost expert on the tribunal) confirmed reckless was never on the table. Greame however argued that they should have rated the contact as medium and threw it up to tribunal to argue the merit's of low or medium contact.

However based on the contact in the Murphy and Burgoyne cases the Swans QC Terry Forrest would have had a field day with a medium grading for contact.

DST
:D
 
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Is there a hotter topic at the moment than the talk of Adam Goodes being a ‘protected species’? Sadly I don’t think so. Internet forums have been raging in debate over his latest incident - a head high bump on the Eagles’ Adam Selwood at the weekend. Goodes has been offered merely a reprimand with an early guilty plea - an offer which has infuriated many an AFL supporter.
Why all the hate? Well from a quick browse of the forms, it all stems from a number of incidents in recent years where Goodes seems to be walking a very fine line, yet he’s always on the right side. Earlier in the year he got off at the tribunal after a questionable striking incident at the SCG, one a number of people thought he would definitely go for (we covered the incident with our Goodes Reputation article).
Now, Goodes has been charged with the hottest tribunal issue of the year - making head-high contact to a player with his head over the ball. A charge which as seen the likes of Sean Burgoyne, Brett Burton, Robert Murphy and Beau Waters wear suspensions in recent weeks. Yet Goodes appears likely to be allowed to front up next week.
The key issue in all of the above cases is the player on the receiving end (with the exception of Slattery in Burton’s case) left the ground after being hit, whereas in Goodes’ case, Selwood was able to take the free kick and kick a goal. On face value, it would seem fair. But is that all there is to the issue?
Goodes’ contact with Selwood was deemed by the match review panel as negligent, low impact and high conduct. The 125 demerit points will be reduced to 93.75 and a reprimand with an early guilty plea. But was the incident merely negligent, or was there more involved?
Burgoyne, Burton, Waters, Murphy - all these cases involved the player making a hard bump, intended or otherwise, while appearing to make a play at the ball or the player with it. All were either focused on the ball or the player with the ball.
While we currently have no access to footage of the Goodes incident, Goodes seems far from focused on making a play at the ball, or the player. Is this negligent? Was Goodes’ bump - as soft as it may be - intentional, or at the least reckless? Consider this:

  • Goodes runs upright past Selwood - collecting his head with his hip. At no stage does he make any attempt to play the ball, or even apply a tackle.
  • Media pundits have noted Goodes is not even looking at Selwood or the ball. His opponent is gathering the ball in a dangerous position - what is a player of Goodes’ ability doing not even taking notice? In my eyes, this makes it more likely Goodes was planning to clip Selwood in the head with his hip, and by ‘not focusing’ on what he is doing he will be more likely to get away with it.
  • Selwood was tagging Goodes, and the two had been involved in a scuffle just prior to the incident. Would Goodes not be looking to get one up on his opponent, especially in the heat of the moment?
You might have worked out by now where I stand on this particular incident - although I could see how he was able to get off on his last trip to the tribunal, I think the Match Review Panel have dropped the ball on this one.
Interesting that the Swans initially claimed they might fight the charge at the tribunal before Goodes accepted the reprimand today. Make no mistake, the Swans are very canny operators - this is not the first time they have officially made a noise before ‘reluctantly’ agreeing to their penalty - see the 19 man fiasco, and even Barry Hall’s hit on Brent Staker. But that’s another story for another day...
Just IMO
 
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of course he is considering it - he reckons he is a shoe-in for the brownlow. Shit after his last win he probably thinks he can have a shit year and still win.

So Goodes was shit in 2006? Lol stick with what you know, which probably isn't much.
 

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