Grant Thomas on Eddies

[pansies]

I believe the AFL MCC and police have also made a major failure in this issue. They should all come out and say that despite whether Eddie's actions were warranted or not, his reaction was reckless and should be condoned. If someone feels that there is unsocial behaviour taking place in the stands the proper method of action is to alert the authorities not rant and rave and threaten other patrons. If Eddie or anyone else's reaction caused a fight to erupt I would hope that they too would be held accountable for causing the violence. Two wrongs do not make a right.

 

[sainter12riewoldt]

Got to like Caro's angle. Stephen Milne has started to be called a rapist by fans since Mick Malthouse made those comments.

are you serious?? she is a disgrace of a journo. has she been under a rock from 2004-2010. lol

 

[CursoryMercenary]

I like Grant Thomas's frank and honest assessment of everything in football

 

[Highlander35]

I'm fine with Eddie.

He's an annoying twat, and he supports Collingwood. But he's like all of us. He pours his heart and soul into his team, he takes his kids along, he fills out his record, and shows his emotions. He should probably be Number 1 ticket holder instead of Prez, but thats a different matter altogether.

What I don't like is that Eddie tried to take the moral high ground. The guy made comments in reference to Krakouers 16 month assault sentence. Eddie didn't like it, his team were behind, he reacted.

While "kick him while he's down" is a disgraceful thing to say, and calling security was probably justified, "get out of Jail Free" is relatively good natured banter, hoping to entice a response from oppostion supporters.

Let's put it this way. I heard plenty of rape abuse both ways (Joey/Milne and Beams/McCarthy) as well as a bit of Racism towards Gwilt. All these comments were probably worse than whatever this fan said, as well as Slanderous.

 

[lionel_luthor]

Fans have been calling Milne a rapist long before Malthouse has.

Caro is a card carrying member of the chadonnay press club and has no idea what goes on in the outer, she's not even a Richmond member

 

[Tatts22]

I'm fine with Eddie.

He's an annoying twat, and he supports Collingwood. But he's like all of us. He pours his heart and soul into his team, he takes his kids along, he fills out his record, and shows his emotions. He should probably be Number 1 ticket holder instead of Prez, but thats a different matter altogether.

What I don't like is that Eddie tried to take the moral high ground. The guy made comments in reference to Krakouers 16 month assault sentence. Eddie didn't like it, his team were behind, he reacted.

While "kick him while he's down" is a disgraceful thing to say, and calling security was probably justified, "get out of Jail Free" is relatively good natured banter, hoping to entice a response from oppostion supporters.

Let's put it this way. I heard plenty of rape abuse both ways (Joey/Milne and Beams/McCarthy) as well as a bit of Racism towards Gwilt. All these comments were probably worse than whatever this fan said, as well as Slanderous.

This is what those that blindly follow 'their leader' don't get.

Peoples feelings about Eddie over this matter have nothing to do with what he did or said to that supporter. In fact at first I think a lot of people were praising Eddie for taking a stand against someone being racist (as is evident by the early posts in the other related thread)

I don't even mind that Eddie had a go at the guy for whatever he said - people have a go at each other all the time in a footy crowd when one doesn't like what the other said, and the guy probably was being an obnoxious loudmouth. Let's face it there's plenty of them from all supporter bases out there.

If Eddie had been 100% honest when first interviewed & just said "I lost it over a couple of comments some boofhead was making that I didn't like" I would have thought fair enough - maybe a bit OTT but good on you for standing up for your player.

However I think Eddie realised that he overreacted a bit & at felt embarrassed so implied the comment was racist. That's the bit that I don't like - it's just another time someone has been caught out in a lie trying to justify their behaviour.

To try to defend him by saying you still believe it was a racist comment - or could have been one - means you haven't been listening to Eddie recently - he has backed down from those claims so even he is no longer pretending that's what was behind it.

For those that just follow someone blindly you need to accept that no-one is perfect & everyone makes mistakes. Admit they were wrong & move on.

I truly think if Eddie hadn't played the racism card this issue would have been done & dusted by now.

 

[bucksisbest]

This is what those that blindly follow 'their leader' don't get.

Peoples feelings about Eddie over this matter have nothing to do with what he did or said to that supporter. In fact at first I think a lot of people were praising Eddie for taking a stand against someone being racist (as is evident by the early posts in the other related thread)

I don't even mind that Eddie had a go at the guy for whatever he said - people have a go at each other all the time in a footy crowd when one doesn't like what the other said, and the guy probably was being an obnoxious loudmouth. Let's face it there's plenty of them from all supporter bases out there.

If Eddie had been 100% honest when first interviewed & just said "I lost it over a couple of comments some boofhead was making that I didn't like" I would have thought fair enough - maybe a bit OTT but good on you for standing up for your player.

However I think Eddie realised that he overreacted a bit & at felt embarrassed so implied the comment was racist. That's the bit that I don't like - it's just another time someone has been caught out in a lie trying to justify their behaviour.

To try to defend him by saying you still believe it was a racist comment - or could have been one - means you haven't been listening to Eddie recently - he has backed down from those claims so even he is no longer pretending that's what was behind it.

For those that just follow someone blindly you need to accept that no-one is perfect & everyone makes mistakes. Admit they were wrong & move on.

I truly think if Eddie hadn't played the racism card this issue would have been done & dusted by now.

That's a pretty good summation. Eddie probably should have at least waited to the next morning if people wanted a greater explanation on what it was all about.

 

[UpTheGuts]

Fans have been calling Milne a rapist long before Malthouse has.

Caro is a card carrying member of the chadonnay press club and has no idea what goes on in the outer, she's not even a Richmond member

See Caro fairly regularly in the MCC "outer", where this incident took place

She has lived football her whole life. Give her a modicum of credit

 

[Pedro59]

The Club Of Liars

Mathouse denied he called milne a rapist LIE

Eddie says the guy made racist comment.LIE

Didack wasn't in tghe car.......................LIE

Eddies a gutless coward that tried to play the racist card

stand up Eddie be a man

 

[Seadog]

Totally agree with what Eddie said no doubt. Have maintained that from day one and have heard nothing to change my opinion. Because when taken out of the context in which a comment was made it may or may not sound borderline racist does not mean that it was not borderline racist. I wasn't there but unlike the flogs on BF who believe that anything Eddie says should be attacked, I happen to believe that it was his opinion at the time and I'm happy to accept it. I also happen to know others who were there who are of the same opinion. I'm happy for you to have your opinion but nothing you or Thomas says is going to change mine.

My comprehension gets worse every time I try to read the indecipherable nonsense you post.

 

[Damon_3388]

The Club Of Liars

Mathouse denied he called milne a rapist LIE

Eddie says the guy made racist comment.LIE

Didak wasn't in the car.......................LIE

Eddies a gutless coward that tried to play the racist card

stand up Eddie be a man

In the grand scheme of things, did any of these big terrible lies really matter?

 

[Mister Magic]

In the grand scheme of things, did any of these big terrible lies really matter?

Maybe ask Brendon Keilar's widow?

 

[Dr Basil]

Maybe ask Brendon Keilar's widow?

Ok, what lie of Didak's killed Brendon Keilar?

Really, some of you should have a good hard think before you post some of this crap.

 

[Mister Magic]

Ok, what lie of Didak's killed Brendon Keilar?

Really, some of you should have a good hard think before you post some of this crap.

There are 'sins' of commission as well as 'sins' of ommission.

If you knew that Osama Bin Laden was living in the house in Pakistran and didn't tell the authorities, do you have any responsiblity/culpability?

If you've witnessed a crime being committed by a person and don't tell the authorities, are you responsible/culpable in any way if the person commits further crimes subsequently?

It all comes back to personal responsibility.
Something, IMHO, too many fans seem to disregard in their slavish following and lauding of their 'heroes'.


There are many footballers who have been absolute assholes in their private lives - Ablett, Stewart, Nicholls, Tuddenham, Jimmy Krakouer, Carey, Millane spring to mind without much thought.
Great footballers all of them but can you say the same about their character?

But I digress.
THe question put by the Collingwood fan was along the lines of 'did any of the lies really hurt?'
I merely point out that in the case of Didak it can be argued that his 'lie' had ramifications that he may never have foreseen, but nevertheless still disastrous.

 

[skilts]

Ok, what lie of Didak's killed Brendon Keilar?

Really, some of you should have a good hard think before you post some of this crap.

Rubbish! Anything which sends Collingwood supporters into paroxysms of uncontrolled anger is good. For this reason, the guy who got up Eddie's nose is to be congratulated. I'll bet he's laughing his head off at the squirming by Collingwood supporters who are attempting to justify their president's childish lack of self-control.

This whole episode reminds me of the expression on Eddie's face when Akermanis kicked that goal in the 2002 GF. Simply a joy to behold.

 

[PieNSauce]

There are 'sins' of commission as well as 'sins' of ommission.

If you knew that Osama Bin Laden was living in the house in Pakistran and didn't tell the authorities, do you have any responsiblity/culpability?

If you've witnessed a crime being committed by a person and don't tell the authorities, are you responsible/culpable in any way if the person commits further crimes subsequently?

It all comes back to personal responsibility.
Something, IMHO, too many fans seem to disregard in their slavish following and lauding of their 'heroes'.


There are many footballers who have been absolute assholes in their private lives - Ablett, Stewart, Nicholls, Tuddenham, Jimmy Krakouer, Carey, Millane spring to mind without much thought.
Great footballers all of them but can you say the same about their character?

But I digress.
THe question put by the Collingwood fan was along the lines of 'did any of the lies really hurt?'
I merely point out that in the case of Didak it can be argued that his 'lie' had ramifications that he may never have foreseen, but nevertheless still disastrous.

rofl. This post is monumental in the sheer scope of its stupidity. What this poster (St Kilda poster no less) will have us believe is that for every time we saw someone do something wrong in our life and failed to report it to the police, if the person who committed that wrong went on in later life to commit a murder then we are culpable.

Lock me up. Take me away right now because clearly I am a serial murderer!

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

The thing is, is that Collingwood and the people involved with the club, always seem to think they are above the law. Look at Malthouse. You have this bloke calling a player, "a ****ing rapist", and then having the audacity to lie about it to the press. Calling another player a "deadset cheat", whilst you have blokes like Didak staging at every opportunity. He also bullies young journalist on a regular basis.

You have an extraordinarily hypocritical and overly opinionated President. I could go on and on and on and on and on and on. They really do think they can make up their own rules.

I wouldn't actually be surprised, if they have the audacity to challenge the Dale Thomas decision to be honest.

We can complain about it all we like, but until the AFL grow a set of balls, and pull this club into line with the basic moral standards that other clubs adhere to, it's never going to change. In fact, the more they get away with, the more they will continue to exhibit this kind of boorish behaviour. Shame on you AFL, shame.

And they did. What a joke.

The guys on Fox Sports last night were shocked as well and said Collingwood should be fined for wasting the tribunals time. Collingwood said he was trying to punch the ball, depsite the ball being 10 metres away and Thomas being about 2 seconds late. Absolute joke.

 

[Dr Basil]

Rubbish! Anything which sends Collingwood supporters into paroxysms of uncontrolled anger is good. For this reason, the guy who got up Eddie's nose is to be congratulated. I'll bet he's laughing his head off at the squirming by Collingwood supporters who are attempting to justify their president's childish lack of self-control.

This whole episode reminds me of the expression on Eddie's face when Akermanis kicked that goal in the 2002 GF. Simply a joy to behold.

Paroxysms of uncontrolled anger!
Gee, i thought i just had a touch of the flu.

 

[Damon_3388]

Maybe ask Brendon Keilar's widow?

About an incident that Didak wasn't present at and had absolutely no involvement in whatsoever? I'm sure she'd tell you Didak had nothing to do with it, just like any other person with half a brain would.

But I digress.
THe question put by the Collingwood fan was along the lines of 'did any of the lies really hurt?'
I merely point out that in the case of Didak it can be argued that his 'lie' had ramifications that he may never have foreseen, but nevertheless still disastrous.

Surely you can't realistically claim that Didak accepting a ride from Christopher Wayne Hudson had any bearing whatsoever on Hudson's subsequent actions. Hudson was a career crim long before he and Didak ever met.

After finding out exactly who Hudson was, Didak panicked and lied about getting a lift. That's it. There was never any evidence to suggest Didak had any direct involvement in criminal activity.

 

[teknodeejay]

But he never actually achieved anything.

Please tell us, good sir, what noteworthy achievements you have made that exceed the mediocrity of Grant Thomas who contributed to the game at the elite level, particularly for a club that had little to cheer about after decades of being whipping boys.

St Kilda had a ripping list in the 90s (Loewe, Harvey, Jones, Hall, Everitt to name but a few) and couldn't achieve the greatest of greats either.

As much as I dislike Thomas or the Saints, this is a muppet comment.

 

[underthestars]

And they did. What a joke.

The guys on Fox Sports last night were shocked as well and said Collingwood should be fined for wasting the tribunals time. Collingwood said he was trying to punch the ball, depsite the ball being 10 metres away and Thomas being about 2 seconds late. Absolute joke.

Lieing has become an ingrained habit at the magpies.
They are arrogant ennough to believe they can say what they like.
I would've upgraded the charge after that feeble attempt - as quite obviously he has intended to punch the opponent, given the absolute certainty that he lied about his reasons so blatantly.
was getting beaten by his opponent and got frustrated. other teams will have taken note.

 

[One 2 Roo]

Does anyone here actually still believe that the comments were racially motivated and that Eddie was within his rights to act the way he did because of this????

Also are these same people prepared to deny that Collingwood is now building a good history of telling porky pies in order to deflect heat of them for there errors?

 

[Pedro59]

rofl. This post is monumental in the sheer scope of its stupidity. What this poster (St Kilda poster no less) will have us believe is that for every time we saw someone do something wrong in our life and failed to report it to the police, if the person who committed that wrong went on in later life to commit a murder then we are culpable.

Lock me up. Take me away right now because clearly I am a serial murderer!

yet what you will have us believe is that Eddy did not see someone do something wrong but still reported it to the authorities and tried to justify it by saying that the person who did not do anything wrong may have gone on later and do something wrong

man you are twisting yourself inside out to defend Eddy

what a hypocrite

 

[skilts]

Paroxysms of uncontrolled anger!
Gee, i thought i just had a touch of the flu.

You've got to admit that my diagnosis has a sexier name though.

 

[Damon_3388]

Does anyone here actually still believe that the comments were racially motivated and that Eddie was within his rights to act the way he did because of this????

Also are these same people prepared to deny that Collingwood is now building a good history of telling porky pies in order to deflect heat of them for there errors?

Again, what does all this really matter in the scheme of things?