Review Groundhog Day at MCG vs Collingwood

[EskimoPAFC]

I thought we'd get beaten and comfortably, but i was hopeful of a better showing. For the result and performance to be far worse than any expectation is the key. Last night was beyond bad. It's highlighted our problems are not just short term but long term. From a list management and game style point of view we could be many years away from contending in any form.

Its not that different a list from the one that made top 4 and a prelim last year. We are out one of our best, but in fact the forward line is better.

The players just have no idea whats going on. Nobody can play in a succession plan year like this. We have a failed 12 year coach sticking around purely for the money telling them one thing, and a bloke that isnt being backed in by the club telling them another. Nobody in the club sees this season going any direction other than a trainwreck.

We just need to axe Ken, and start playing the new game style now and see how they can adapt on the fly.

 

[Coobk001]

For those also hanging their hat on the fact this was round 1, you're right in a sense, of course. That cant be denied. However you also cant ignore the context of the end of 2024. We've been beaten by 84 and 91 points in 2 of our last 4 games. The other team that beat us by 36, has lost their first 2 games as well as a GF shellacking.

The alarm bells are there for all to see. Putting away Richmond this weekend will mean absolutely zilch.

 

[Coobk001]

Its not that different a list from the one that made top 4 and a prelim last year. We are out one of our best, but in fact the forward line is better.

The players just have no idea whats going on. Nobody can play in a succession plan year like this. We have a failed 12 year coach sticking around purely for the money telling them one thing, and a bloke that isnt being backed in by the club telling them another. Nobody in the club sees this season going any direction other than a trainwreck.

We just need to axe Ken, and start playing the new game style now and see how they can adapt on the fly.

I wonder what difference thered be in our approach had Sicily kicked that final goal in the semi. 2x straight set losses, rather than some false hope. Just like how that semi win against Freo in 2014 set us back years, the Hawks one has probably done the same.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I wonder what difference thered be in our approach had Sicily kicked that final goal in the semi. 2x straight set losses, rather than some false hope. Just like how that semi win against Freo in 2014 set us back years, the Hawks one has probably done the same.

Or if that Ollie Florent kick was an extra metre...

He's escaped by the skin of his teeth so many times. Yet really its on our admin. After 12 years winning one final shouldnt save someone's job at a serious club.

 

[KenGaveUsWhatHeDeserved]

Gap year’s started well

gape year

ftfy

 

[Rozee2Butters]

I’ve been sour on Houston for forcing a trade, but after whatever that was who can blame him. If any of the other A-Graders on our list had any ambition they’d do the same


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[PowerBaz]

They've completely ****ed up any chance Josh had at doing something good with this group.

Yeah feels like the longer Ken lasts the harder it gets for Josh next year.

Ken should have stepped down, got half his pay, worked out a deal and could have done the right thing for all involved, especially the supporter base.

He’s quite something.

 

[PJ Power]

You're all focusing on the wrong things. The scoreboard doesn't matter it's all about connection and we have great connection.

If anyone needs any jewellery designs, Rozee can whip you up a bangle. 20% off for Members.

Heard Boaky was offering 25% discount on diamond rings for Happy Clappers. White noise members not included in deal.

 

[melanChronic]

Houston was a beast, we knew that but seeing him carve to another AA at Collingwood is going to be painful.

Made even worse by three fifths of the **** all we got for him barely firing a shot. Luko offered zero aerial presence up forward and could only get involved via crumbs or drifting back to half back. Not a great night to be a forward but we looked completely rudderless up there. If he's cost us a top 10 pick then we're proper cooked.

Richards looked like a deer in headlights. He might come good but there's just zero way that a sub 10 game 25 year old should have been a significant part of the return for a dual AA contracted player.

Berry hopefully has something about him but that's a pretty brutal debut to cop. He may have talent but he's just barely filling a talent hole that had been created by previous trade period sins. When you trade your best player in their prime you'd want a rolled gold prospect coming back.

The other two fifths won't be giving us much anytime soon (Atkins hopefully never, Whitlock hopefully by 2027). Just a farcical PlayStation situation trading a bunch of nothing for a gun-- Port are the non playable club that provides the Collingwood's of the world these gifts. Just humiliating as a fan and paired with the Hinkley farewell tour it's probably just best to walk away hey

 

[ifitaintboak]

Watching on the TV in the pre game, they showed Darcy Moore gather his players and was screaming into their faces firing them up. Then they cut to Port warming up with zero intensity and fumbling balls. Was so obvious what was about to unfold.

 

[ClickBOOM1870]

The team I watched last night is a case study of what eventually happens when you continually overpay for B grade players, while letting your A grade players walk for B grade returns.

 

[philreich]

How can anyone at the club seriously expect us to believe thats a group of players who are playing for the coach.

And the fraud seriously said in his presser that it's round 1, and we'll be better next week.

 

[Schulzenfest]

They don’t just inhabit a bubble, it’s a completely different universe.

The need for a Clarkson, Hardwick or Kingsley to return and purge everything and start again has never been more obvious.

Unfortunately, that boat has sailed.

And our next coach has been part of the same bubble for three years. So is he the answer? I very much doubt it.

 

[Doctor Feel]

 

[Windy Cindy]

Ken cozied up to Fly as soon as the match ended too.

Had a good yarn with him, shared a chuckle or two.

A real coach would be seething with that performance, and drag the players immediately off the ground

And they would be at the snake pit at 5am this morning and still be there.

3 out of the last 4 games absolutely smacked.. crows smacked us in the preseason until they took their Afl team off.. we are miles off. And trying to play a game style our players are incapable of playing

Rock bottom may be on the way for this club.. we need a savior to shake the
Joint up.

Does anybody in our coaching staff get angry at these type of losses.. it’s like they just accept them.

 

[MrPlow]

The game was horrendous but those scenes in the change rooms afterwards were the worst part of the night for me.

Makes me wonder why I bother getting so worked up about this club when the players and coach clearly don’t give a shit.


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That’s what you get when your leader believes in being “humans first and footballers second”

 

[Bump Bailey]

That’s what you get when your leader believes in being “humans first and footballers second”

iT’s aLwaYs gOoD to SeE gooD PEoplE

 

[Rash]

Rozee wasnt great by any means but bagging him and praising guys like jhf and co is utter bull shit.

 

[Hammer#8]

We're going to flat track bully Richmond next week, club will beat their chest as usual.

 

[backtozero]

Just checking in now.

How did the first episode of The Last Dance go?

 

[Schulzenfest]

Rozee wasnt great by any means but bagging him and praising guys like jhf and co is utter bull shit.

It's not about his own performance. Rozee is our captain. He's a good footballer but he's probably the worst captain this club has ever had. He's not a leader's arseh*le. Has fully embraced Kenny's care bear near enough is good enough culture that is the antithesis of everything that made the PAFC great.

If in the 90's David Koch was our president, Ken Hinkley was our coach and Connor Rozee was our captain, I'd be looking forward to hopefully seeing Sturtwood lose to St Kilda this afternoon after having trekked out to Alberton to watch us play last night.

 

[JimmyBC]

Rozee wasnt great by any means but bagging him and praising guys like jhf and co is utter bull shit.

I'm not even fussed with Rozee's stats any more he can get good numbers and you barely notice him or feel like he's out there.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Its not that different a list from the one that made top 4 and a prelim last year. We are out one of our best, but in fact the forward line is better.

The players just have no idea whats going on. Nobody can play in a succession plan year like this. We have a failed 12 year coach sticking around purely for the money telling them one thing, and a bloke that isnt being backed in by the club telling them another. Nobody in the club sees this season going any direction other than a trainwreck.

We just need to axe Ken, and start playing the new game style now and see how they can adapt on the fly.

I particularly liked Hinkley saying 'We are miles off the pace'. And why would that be? After 12 years do you not know how to prepare a team for round 1? We have won a lot of round 1 matches, so that can't be it.

Local news being what it is, I have seen a lot of the crows playing high-intensity internal trials in the lead up to the AFL sanctioned practice matches. I saw us jogging a lot. I saw more of the latter last night. I bet I can guess what I'll see in the crows v Saints game today.

 

[morell]

Was I tripping balls or did Mitch Georgiadis accidentally celebrate and put his hands up when Houston did at the siren?

 

[theouthouse]

I get there's a lot of bed-wetting going on in here, was a shit display of skills. Never going to beat Collingwood who rely on turnovers to hurt you, Port have been pathetic with their skills for years, never being too worried about turning the ball over as they've always played the hinkley brand of win the ball back, where the good sides will punish you on the turnover.

Zero focus on the skills needed to get the ball through the big sticks, ie effective disposals, creating and leading to space, minimising turnovers, open forward lines, accountability, you know the things that grand final winning teams are good at.

The whole coaching philosophy is pathetic and has been for the last 10 years.