Haddin is rubbish in the top order

[rose jam]

He's had 7 chances in a row and been plain rubbish. English finally worked out that he has only one attacking shot and now he can't perform.
I'd prefer Mitch Johnson open than this joker, and certainly like Tim Paine ahead of him.
He's range of shots is too limited for top order play, no chance in the world cup with him opening.

 

[Phone]

is this a serious thread

 

[rose jam]

is this a serious thread

damn right, but edit, it was Ferguson that got out and then Haddin hit a 6, so I may look silly in the next hour.


But I still don't think he can cut it there if his only shot is step away from the wickets.

 

[Phone]

i don't like the way he - and ian bell too - has batted this series either but he's a got a fine average opening since taking over from gilchrist - 37.5 at a S/R of 85 odd. Paine's at 30 and 65-70. There's no real justification for dropping Haddin for Paine right now - i've got no doubt once the wc is over paine will take over in all forms immediately deserving or not - but for the WC haddin has the job. unless he has a horror start to the WC of course. we'd be making our team weaker if we drop him tbh

mind you i'd prefer haddin being dropped outright for paine than moving him down to 7 which gets said very often and is something i just can't fathom.

 

[aussie1st]

The Haddin who scored a 100 against NZ as opener is definitely up to opening. However the Haddin that has been opening in this series is definitely not up to it. As you mentioned he is too one dimensional and teams will obviously have seen this and know how to bowl to him.

 

[dumb]

relax and let him play out the rest of his career... it won't take much longer before he's not picked any more. mid 30's, not getting any better behind the stumps. his batting is inconsistent rather than terrible.

 

[Spook]

Haddin has completely changed the way he bats so he can now guarantee his spot in all forms of the game..... Bat like Steve Smith, step away and slog across the line

 

[Johnson#26]

Has been grossly overrated from the day dot.

 

[maka]

is this a serious thread

Haddin probably isnt our best opener, but he is a serious threat when he gets going, Tim Paine had a go and failed today, Mitchy Johnson looks good down the order, throw him at number 6

 

[Hellgood]

If he must be in the team, may as well bat down at 6 or 7 so he can slog as much as he likes. Guys like Paine or Marsh should be accompanying Watson at the top of the order, they are generally pretty solid, can hit well and don't continually play stupid stupid shots when they aren't needed.

 

[rose jam]

I wish they'd try and open with Johnson sometimes. On true bouncing wickets he could potentially go nuts, and if he goes out what have you really lost? Then bring in a technically correct batsmen after him.

Haddin on the other hand has no idea how to score unless he moves to the leg side and that doesn't fool anyone. Tim Paine at least can play shots from the crease.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

I wish they'd try and open with Johnson sometimes. On true bouncing wickets he could potentially go nuts, and if he goes out what have you really lost? Then bring in a technically correct batsmen after him.

Haddin on the other hand has no idea how to score unless he moves to the leg side and that doesn't fool anyone. Tim Paine at least can play shots from the crease.

They'll probably give him another go at 3 or 4 now if the circumstances allow. His ability to go along at a good click is a real bonus.

 

[Hellgood]

They'll probably give him another go at 3 or 4 now if the circumstances allow. His ability to go along at a good click is a real bonus.

Hopefully. And he is much better at rotating the strike, something that when in poor form, White and Haddin simply cannot do.

 

[Tyberious Funk]

relax and let him play out the rest of his career... it won't take much longer before he's not picked any more. mid 30's, not getting any better behind the stumps. his batting is inconsistent rather than terrible.

IMHO, the World Cup should be his last ODI/T20 tournament. He turns 34 this year and we should be looking to transition the keeping role to Paine.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Haddin has been going backwards ever since he was dropped from the T20 side, I don't even know why players care about T20 when they are playing Tests and ODI's, just enjoy the break. I think Paine will be in the side after the world cup in ODI's.

 

[dumb]

IMHO, the World Cup should be his last ODI/T20 tournament. He turns 34 this year and we should be looking to transition the keeping role to Paine.

my thoughts as well. i'm not as harsh as others with his batting... he's done some good service, but time to move him on. paine could probably do a similar job with the bat, and his keeping surely would be an improvement on haddin.

 

[big_e]

Same for half the side, really.

 

[Bomber Bears]

Hasnt been his best this tournament, i'd agree, but has earnt a spot for the World Cup. Batting well he's very good up there. Also would agree he should be done with limited overs post WC

Wish Paine wasnt considered as an ODI Opener, striking at less than 70 is ****ing rubbish in one day cricket. Terrible opener, you'd rather him at 5/6 if he's to come in.

 

[NMFC 1811]

Haddin has been going backwards ever since he was dropped from the T20 side, I don't even know why players care about T20 when they are playing Tests and ODI's, just enjoy the break. I think Paine will be in the side after the world cup in ODI's.

 

[Erek Shun]

Has been grossly overrated from the day dot.

As a batsman and keeper.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

I've never rated him too much as a keeper, but the team's fielding standards have dropped so much, he pretty much fits in there.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Haddin is overrated but not nearly as much as Paine is. Haddin is Good first class batsmen and an average keeper. Paine is an average first class batsmen and just above average keeper.

 

[Tazwegian]

Haddin is overrated but not nearly as much as Paine is. Haddin is Good first class batsmen and an average keeper. Paine is an average first class batsmen and just above average keeper.

Is this based on actual knowledge of Paine's technique? Or did you just look at his first class stats and jump to a false conclusion?

 

[Bucking Beads]

Is this based on actual knowledge of Paine's technique? Or did you just look at his first class stats and jump to a false conclusion?

Doesn't matter how good his techniques is at all, I rate Paine highly he has massive potential but something in his brain is stopping him from being a brilliant batsmen. Technique wise he is light years in front of Haddin but his Stats don't even come close to backing that up. He needs to make 100's. Potential YES, Overrated YES....

 

[Team DJ]

Haddin is rubbish full stop. He is as good as paine with the bat. And Tim Paine is a million times better with the gloves. Brad Haddin is an old school backstop, tim paine is a wicket keeper.