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I’m 47yo and I remember growing up, all I wanted was for Richmond to be competitive most weeks. Not win flags or even make finals, just don’t be a laughing stock more often than not.

Then in 2013 I couldn’t believe we’d made finals. I shed a tear at that first final in front of 95,000 fans as the team ran out … had my 6yo and 8yo boys in tow. What a great moment seeing them back on the big stage… then finals failures hit and the idea of just being happy to be ‘competitive’ was yesterdays news …. now I needed to win a final to be satisfied.

Then came 2017 first final against the Cats, who’d toyed with us for 3 decades and had a 13-game winning streak against us. I’d already worked out we lost the first final to the Cats, then get done in the second final to Sydney … straight sets, cya later Tigers.

Then we dominated the Cats early but scores were level around half-time. We’d missed our moment and the heartache was coming …. then Dusty played a second half for the ages and the heartache didn’t come ….. we’d actually won a final for the first time in 16-years! My now 10yo and 12yo boys were in tow. What a night!

Then came the PF… greatest footy night of my life. But at what stage would the dagger through the heart come? As it had for 37-years at some stage each season. A tough struggle but then we kicked clear, only to somehow have GWS close to within 20-points with plenty of time on the clock…. this was going to be it. The ultimate dagger, losing to GWS in front of 95,000 fans. How could you do it to me? But then, they settled and Jack, who’d been well beaten all game, took a mark and snapped the sealer. We were home, and Jack who was my kids hero had delivered.

At this time I was satisfied. I get to see a GF. What a journey and what an effort. But Crows had been dominant and looked too big a task. Went to the game with boys again in tow. Crows kicked the first 2 x goals and the dream was finally over. But it wasn’t a dagger, it was just a clap for the season that had been, but all good things must come to an end….

But then ….. the game started to shift. Caddy snapped a goal and Jack missed a couple, but we were suddenly in the game. But the second quarter was the Crows best all season, so they’d respond…. but in the second we kicked 4 goals to zip. I was in the forward pocket, city end. Just before half time I said to the boys …”Look, Dusty has just drifted to FF” …. Then Prestia clears and Dusty did what Dusty does to give us a half time lead..maybe, just maybe we were a chance.

Then the third quarter we couldn’t miss … Castagna even nailed one straight through the middle. If we could just kick the first of the last quarter we should be home …. but the dagger was surely going to come…. just how unbearable would it be.

Then we kicked to a 45-point lead, and the bloke next me made the terrible mistake of saying “we’re home” …. I said “why would you say that?”, despite all logic suggesting we were home.

But then the grim reaper appeared, and the Crows kicked 2-goals in minute to bring it back to 33-points. OMG … this dagger with the Cross kicking 8-straight goals was going to be the worst yet.

Then Betts took a mark about 45m out and it was about to be 27-points with 10-minutes left. But he inexplicably played on. Then dished off and I think it was Cameron got caught HTB …. was that the moment passed for the Crows?

Just one more goal to seal it Tigers… for f**CK’s sake just put me out of my misery.

Then we missed a shot to seal it to leave the slightest of chances. Then from the kick out Townsend marked. This was it. Kick this and the dagger is put to bed. Straight through the high diddle diddle it went, and me and my boys celebrated the next 10 minutes like never before.

That was enough. I could die happy. I never thought I’d see a competitive team, or a finals win, and certainly never a flag. Then me and my kids saw 3…. freakin 3 of the bloody things!!

My old man is a Saints supporter and was there in 1966 as an 18yo. He’s in in aged care home and I hope beyond hope he gets to feel what we all felt for 4 x amazing years.

Losing still hurts like hell and we seem to have found some more daggers with all these close losses ….. but 2017-2020 means the pain only lingers for days, not weeks, months or years on end.

Thanks Dimma …. a true Tigerman forever !



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Same here Nate in 2013 I was back in Australia for my week off watching the freo game , at a point in the game when we had won it I burst into tears, my partner who knew nothing about footy , said what’s up with you and I said I never believed we would play finals in the rest of my misearable life and to see another 3 flags is amazing , I put my hand up and say I was never a passionate supporter of Hardwick but I am forever gratefull to have seen three more premierships , just below Hafey in my estimation who also led us to flags after a long drought.

a lot of people say Hardwick is our greatest coach but in my book it was Tommy .

the king is dead long live the king
 

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I’m 47yo and I remember growing up, all I wanted was for Richmond to be competitive most weeks. Not win flags or even make finals, just don’t be a laughing stock more often than not.

Then in 2013 I couldn’t believe we’d made finals. I shed a tear at that first final in front of 95,000 fans as the team ran out … had my 6yo and 8yo boys in tow. What a great moment seeing them back on the big stage… then finals failures hit and the idea of just being happy to be ‘competitive’ was yesterdays news …. now I needed to win a final to be satisfied.

Then came 2017 first final against the Cats, who’d toyed with us for 3 decades and had a 13-game winning streak against us. I’d already worked out we lost the first final to the Cats, then get done in the second final to Sydney … straight sets, cya later Tigers.

Then we dominated the Cats early but scores were level around half-time. We’d missed our moment and the heartache was coming …. then Dusty played a second half for the ages and the heartache didn’t come ….. we’d actually won a final for the first time in 16-years! My now 10yo and 12yo boys were in tow. What a night!

Then came the PF… greatest footy night of my life. But at what stage would the dagger through the heart come? As it had for 37-years at some stage each season. A tough struggle but then we kicked clear, only to somehow have GWS close to within 20-points with plenty of time on the clock…. this was going to be it. The ultimate dagger, losing to GWS in front of 95,000 fans. How could you do it to me? But then, they settled and Jack, who’d been well beaten all game, took a mark and snapped the sealer. We were home, and Jack who was my kids hero had delivered.

At this time I was satisfied. I get to see a GF. What a journey and what an effort. But Crows had been dominant and looked too big a task. Went to the game with boys again in tow. Crows kicked the first 2 x goals and the dream was finally over. But it wasn’t a dagger, it was just a clap for the season that had been, but all good things must come to an end….

But then ….. the game started to shift. Caddy snapped a goal and Jack missed a couple, but we were suddenly in the game. But the second quarter was the Crows best all season, so they’d respond…. but in the second we kicked 4 goals to zip. I was in the forward pocket, city end. Just before half time I said to the boys …”Look, Dusty has just drifted to FF” …. Then Prestia clears and Dusty did what Dusty does to give us a half time lead..maybe, just maybe we were a chance.

Then the third quarter we couldn’t miss … Castagna even nailed one straight through the middle. If we could just kick the first of the last quarter we should be home …. but the dagger was surely going to come…. just how unbearable would it be.

Then we kicked to a 45-point lead, and the bloke next me made the terrible mistake of saying “we’re home” …. I said “why would you say that?”, despite all logic suggesting we were home.

But then the grim reaper appeared, and the Crows kicked 2-goals in minute to bring it back to 33-points. OMG … this dagger with the Cross kicking 8-straight goals was going to be the worst yet.

Then Betts took a mark about 45m out and it was about to be 27-points with 10-minutes left. But he inexplicably played on. Then dished off and I think it was Cameron got caught HTB …. was that the moment passed for the Crows?

Just one more goal to seal it Tigers… for f**CK’s sake just put me out of my misery.

Then we missed a shot to seal it to leave the slightest of chances. Then from the kick out Townsend marked. This was it. Kick this and the dagger is put to bed. Straight through the high diddle diddle it went, and me and my boys celebrated the next 10 minutes like never before.

That was enough. I could die happy. I never thought I’d see a competitive team, or a finals win, and certainly never a flag. Then me and my kids saw 3…. freakin 3 of the bloody things!!

My old man is a Saints supporter and was there in 1966 as an 18yo. He’s in in aged care home and I hope beyond hope he gets to feel what we all felt for 4 x amazing years.

Losing still hurts like hell and we seem to have found some more daggers with all these close losses ….. but 2017-2020 means the pain only lingers for days, not weeks, months or years on end.

Thanks Dimma …. a true Tigerman forever !



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SEN - Bucks and Gerald on now

Bucks - I’m not interested in coaching 😂

Gerald - thinks Adam Simpson is a good fit 🤬
SEN - Bucks and Gerald on now

Bucks - I’m not interested in coaching 😂

Gerald - thinks Adam Simpson is a good fit 🤬
Eagles would love
Its for sure his greatest impact. How many players came through under him and reached their full potential and really even higher than thought. Most of them. Essentially all of them. Butlers the only one of the top of my head that left and had a much better season (other than young guys like Higgins and Stengle).

Our elite picks went to max potential and beyond. Guys like Lambo come in and do the same. Role players like Townsend come in and play the best footy of their careers. He got the absolute best out of almost everyone.
Remember those early years of Cotchin dusty and Jack and the floggings we copped
Cometi coming out with there’s no Calvary on the way with it unfolding in front of him
Proud of Dimma and how he put fear into all our oppo
 
praises (in glowing terms to boot) the AFL on his way out.
I knew he would do that that's why I didn't even bother watching it.

Surely it would've been killing Damien watching all those close losses these last 3 years when he knows that but for the stand rule we'd still be the team to beat. I have no doubt that's why he quit.
 
Your first post about this was a disgrace! You came on here as you have before, gloating about how you had been right all along. You only ever post if we have just lost or something has gone wrong.

I don’t believe for one minute that you are a genuine Richmond supporter, if you were you wouldn’t say half the things you do and you wouldn’t sound so bloody pleased when we have a loss.

And FYI Peggy isn’t president any more so she wouldn’t have any say in how anything happened.

I wish I was a Mod, I would put a permanent ban on you.

Feel better now?

I know Peggy is not President, but i am talking about the transition as a whole, they admitted in the presser that it was known this was going to be Dimma's last year coming into the season. Dont think you can ban someone permanently for something like that, so you would likely be a horrible candidate for a moderator. Some of you just need to learn to deal with other people having opinions.

This place has gotten worse in that way, but its to be expected as the whole world has got that way. No longer is respect for other peoples opinions a standard - if someone says something you dont like you just apparently be a noisy campaigner about it and hope they go away.

Don't it suck though, when they don't just " go away" as you would like & challenge you back?

So what exactly did i say that made you think i was a disgrace?
 
He quit , so it should be resounding yes , same with this year remaining,only way is if he has been sacked and that isn’t the case here.

you can’t say I quit so pay me out
Don't know? Didn't we keep paying Rance when he finished up? Depends on what's written in the contracts.
 
Thanks for everything Dimma.

Growing up as a kid in the 90s, the only shinning light was Richo for me!

You turned this club around. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd see Richmond win a premiership, let alone three!

Wishing you all the best!
 
Don't know? Didn't we keep paying Rance when he finished up? Depends on what's written in the contracts.
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I can;t recall us having to pay him. We only had to pay him pro-rata while he was there for the contract ie the months of training etc.

We had to wear his contract though in the cap. That is a very interesting question. Does this sit against our soft cap still? If so - then we literally might need a volunteer for our next coach:smilecat:
 

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Feel better now?

I know Peggy is not President, but i am talking about the transition as a whole, they admitted in the presser that it was known this was going to be Dimma's last year coming into the season. Dont think you can ban someone permanently for something like that, so you would likely be a horrible candidate for a moderator. Some of you just need to learn to deal with other people having opinions.

This place has gotten worse in that way, but its to be expected as the whole world has got that way. No longer is respect for other peoples opinions a standard - if someone says something you dont like you just apparently be a noisy campaigner about it and hope they go away.

Don't it suck though, when they don't just " go away" as you would like & challenge you back?

So what exactly did i say that made you think i was a disgrace?
I wouldn't worry about it too much. You get some that will castrate you here for your opinion and will keep doing it its just the way forums are. Just post what you feel and don't worry about the rest of the crap.
 
I knew he would do that that's why I didn't even bother watching it.

Surely it would've been killing Damien watching all those close losses these last 3 years when he knows that but for the stand rule we'd still be the team to beat. I have no doubt that's why he quit.
I knew he would do that that's why I didn't even bother watching it.

Surely it would've been killing Damien watching all those close losses these last 3 years when he knows that but for the stand rule we'd still be the team to beat. I have no doubt that's why he quit.
I think we found our SEN caller from last night, who stated this exact thing.
 
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I can;t recall us having to pay him. We only had to pay him pro-rata while he was there for the contract ie the months of training etc.

We had to wear his contract though in the cap. That is a very interesting question. Does this sit against our soft cap still? If so - then we literally might need a volunteer for our next coach:smilecat:
He only took 2 months' worth of his contract but stayed in the cap all the 2019 season but laST 2 SEASONS WAS TAKEN OFF GIVING US SOME 1.4 mil in the salary cap for 2020 2021.
 
I’m 47yo and I remember growing up, all I wanted was for Richmond to be competitive most weeks. Not win flags or even make finals, just don’t be a laughing stock more often than not.

Then in 2013 I couldn’t believe we’d made finals. I shed a tear at that first final in front of 95,000 fans as the team ran out … had my 6yo and 8yo boys in tow. What a great moment seeing them back on the big stage… then finals failures hit and the idea of just being happy to be ‘competitive’ was yesterdays news …. now I needed to win a final to be satisfied.

Then came 2017 first final against the Cats, who’d toyed with us for 3 decades and had a 13-game winning streak against us. I’d already worked out we lost the first final to the Cats, then get done in the second final to Sydney … straight sets, cya later Tigers.

Then we dominated the Cats early but scores were level around half-time. We’d missed our moment and the heartache was coming …. then Dusty played a second half for the ages and the heartache didn’t come ….. we’d actually won a final for the first time in 16-years! My now 10yo and 12yo boys were in tow. What a night!

Then came the PF… greatest footy night of my life. But at what stage would the dagger through the heart come? As it had for 37-years at some stage each season. A tough struggle but then we kicked clear, only to somehow have GWS close to within 20-points with plenty of time on the clock…. this was going to be it. The ultimate dagger, losing to GWS in front of 95,000 fans. How could you do it to me? But then, they settled and Jack, who’d been well beaten all game, took a mark and snapped the sealer. We were home, and Jack who was my kids hero had delivered.

At this time I was satisfied. I get to see a GF. What a journey and what an effort. But Crows had been dominant and looked too big a task. Went to the game with boys again in tow. Crows kicked the first 2 x goals and the dream was finally over. But it wasn’t a dagger, it was just a clap for the season that had been, but all good things must come to an end….

But then ….. the game started to shift. Caddy snapped a goal and Jack missed a couple, but we were suddenly in the game. But the second quarter was the Crows best all season, so they’d respond…. but in the second we kicked 4 goals to zip. I was in the forward pocket, city end. Just before half time I said to the boys …”Look, Dusty has just drifted to FF” …. Then Prestia clears and Dusty did what Dusty does to give us a half time lead..maybe, just maybe we were a chance.

Then the third quarter we couldn’t miss … Castagna even nailed one straight through the middle. If we could just kick the first of the last quarter we should be home …. but the dagger was surely going to come…. just how unbearable would it be.

Then we kicked to a 45-point lead, and the bloke next me made the terrible mistake of saying “we’re home” …. I said “why would you say that?”, despite all logic suggesting we were home.

But then the grim reaper appeared, and the Crows kicked 2-goals in minute to bring it back to 33-points. OMG … this dagger with the Cross kicking 8-straight goals was going to be the worst yet.

Then Betts took a mark about 45m out and it was about to be 27-points with 10-minutes left. But he inexplicably played on. Then dished off and I think it was Cameron got caught HTB …. was that the moment passed for the Crows?

Just one more goal to seal it Tigers… for f**CK’s sake just put me out of my misery.

Then we missed a shot to seal it to leave the slightest of chances. Then from the kick out Townsend marked. This was it. Kick this and the dagger is put to bed. Straight through the high diddle diddle it went, and me and my boys celebrated the next 10 minutes like never before.

That was enough. I could die happy. I never thought I’d see a competitive team, or a finals win, and certainly never a flag. Then me and my kids saw 3…. freakin 3 of the bloody things!!

My old man is a Saints supporter and was there in 1966 as an 18yo. He’s in in aged care home and I hope beyond hope he gets to feel what we all felt for 4 x amazing years.

Losing still hurts like hell and we seem to have found some more daggers with all these close losses ….. but 2017-2020 means the pain only lingers for days, not weeks, months or years on end.

Thanks Dimma …. a true Tigerman forever !



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I saw us in grand finals on tv in the late 60s and live in the 70s. And the 37 year drought. I went to 3 finals between 1995 and 2013. All losses. I saw the 2017 prelim too. The clubs first winning final in 37 odd years.

We rubbish in 2016. Amazing by the club not to sack the head coach and finally won another flag in 2017. Unprecedented. I could only see early rounds in 2018, 2019 too but lucked out with COVID GF at the Gabba. Night grand final was good (if you win)


The Dimma era... Good people around him.
Eras come to an end

I thought this list had one more year in it. Hopper and Taranto looked good on paper. But all these close losses. See what McQualter does I guess.
Maybe he can rejig it.
 
It's over .... it was special while it lasted ... but we have known for a while ... and I am sorry for all the nasty things I said about your performance of late ... but you just didn't have that twinkle in your eye like when we first met ... and I just couldn't fake it anymore when you lost your hardness before the job was finished ... in hindsight we probably should have gone out separate ways after we shat our pants in Perth two years ago .... we where told to stand but we just wanted to get in there and bang on like we always had .... but we had been so good together we went on trying to smash a square peg into a round hole .... but no more, thank you for being the one to say it's over
 
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I’m 47yo and I remember growing up, all I wanted was for Richmond to be competitive most weeks. Not win flags or even make finals, just don’t be a laughing stock more often than not.

Then in 2013 I couldn’t believe we’d made finals. I shed a tear at that first final in front of 95,000 fans as the team ran out … had my 6yo and 8yo boys in tow. What a great moment seeing them back on the big stage… then finals failures hit and the idea of just being happy to be ‘competitive’ was yesterdays news …. now I needed to win a final to be satisfied.

Then came 2017 first final against the Cats, who’d toyed with us for 3 decades and had a 13-game winning streak against us. I’d already worked out we lost the first final to the Cats, then get done in the second final to Sydney … straight sets, cya later Tigers.

Then we dominated the Cats early but scores were level around half-time. We’d missed our moment and the heartache was coming …. then Dusty played a second half for the ages and the heartache didn’t come ….. we’d actually won a final for the first time in 16-years! My now 10yo and 12yo boys were in tow. What a night!

Then came the PF… greatest footy night of my life. But at what stage would the dagger through the heart come? As it had for 37-years at some stage each season. A tough struggle but then we kicked clear, only to somehow have GWS close to within 20-points with plenty of time on the clock…. this was going to be it. The ultimate dagger, losing to GWS in front of 95,000 fans. How could you do it to me? But then, they settled and Jack, who’d been well beaten all game, took a mark and snapped the sealer. We were home, and Jack who was my kids hero had delivered.

At this time I was satisfied. I get to see a GF. What a journey and what an effort. But Crows had been dominant and looked too big a task. Went to the game with boys again in tow. Crows kicked the first 2 x goals and the dream was finally over. But it wasn’t a dagger, it was just a clap for the season that had been, but all good things must come to an end….

But then ….. the game started to shift. Caddy snapped a goal and Jack missed a couple, but we were suddenly in the game. But the second quarter was the Crows best all season, so they’d respond…. but in the second we kicked 4 goals to zip. I was in the forward pocket, city end. Just before half time I said to the boys …”Look, Dusty has just drifted to FF” …. Then Prestia clears and Dusty did what Dusty does to give us a half time lead..maybe, just maybe we were a chance.

Then the third quarter we couldn’t miss … Castagna even nailed one straight through the middle. If we could just kick the first of the last quarter we should be home …. but the dagger was surely going to come…. just how unbearable would it be.

Then we kicked to a 45-point lead, and the bloke next me made the terrible mistake of saying “we’re home” …. I said “why would you say that?”, despite all logic suggesting we were home.

But then the grim reaper appeared, and the Crows kicked 2-goals in minute to bring it back to 33-points. OMG … this dagger with the Cross kicking 8-straight goals was going to be the worst yet.

Then Betts took a mark about 45m out and it was about to be 27-points with 10-minutes left. But he inexplicably played on. Then dished off and I think it was Cameron got caught HTB …. was that the moment passed for the Crows?

Just one more goal to seal it Tigers… for f**CK’s sake just put me out of my misery.

Then we missed a shot to seal it to leave the slightest of chances. Then from the kick out Townsend marked. This was it. Kick this and the dagger is put to bed. Straight through the high diddle diddle it went, and me and my boys celebrated the next 10 minutes like never before.

That was enough. I could die happy. I never thought I’d see a competitive team, or a finals win, and certainly never a flag. Then me and my kids saw 3…. freakin 3 of the bloody things!!

My old man is a Saints supporter and was there in 1966 as an 18yo. He’s in in aged care home and I hope beyond hope he gets to feel what we all felt for 4 x amazing years.

Losing still hurts like hell and we seem to have found some more daggers with all these close losses ….. but 2017-2020 means the pain only lingers for days, not weeks, months or years on end.

Thanks Dimma …. a true Tigerman forever !



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Mate, I am saving your post to read again and again.
 
Same here Nate in 2013 I was back in Australia for my week off watching the freo game , at a point in the game when we had won it I burst into tears, my partner who knew nothing about footy , said what’s up with you and I said I never believed we would play finals in the rest of my misearable life and to see another 3 flags is amazing , I put my hand up and say I was never a passionate supporter of Hardwick but I am forever gratefull to have seen three more premierships , just below Hafey in my estimation who also led us to flags after a long drought.

a lot of people say Hardwick is our greatest coach but in my book it was Tommy .

the king is dead long live the king
I grew up with Tommy as the coach. I took the success for granted.
GR would've hard to deal with. He deserves bonus points.


Dimma in an 18 team comp where we made Prelim twice between 1982 & 2017. Resurrecting our club to respectability deserves extra kudos. Shared amongst Pres, CEO. Captain & Coach.

We hadn't beaten Geelong North, anyone for 15 years.
Lucky RFC always did well at the Gabba. My nearest ground for 20 odd years.
 
Haven't been this devastated about some leaving the RFC since Richo.

Like many, I never thought I'd see the RFC become the powerhouse it was under Dimma, he truely awoke the sleeping giant.

When I was a kid, my dad used to always say 'sorry for making ya go for the tiges'. That all changed though under Hardwick, and I'm bloody glad I got to see it while my old man was still around.

He sorta made the club anew, with his Richmond man ethos. It seems we almost need someone to continue that legacy than start anew again, but I've got no idea how that happens.

I hope MCG is packed this weekend and we get a win, and that somehow that means something to Dimma.

An absolute tiger legend.
 
He only took 2 months' worth of his contract but stayed in the cap all the 2019 season but laST 2 SEASONS WAS TAKEN OFF GIVING US SOME 1.4 mil in the salary cap for 2020 2021.


Yep thats what i remember too. Which explains why a interim is always picked internally now - they are already on the books & their current salary goes towards the new salary to allow for the soft cap to not be exceeded.

I think, in all sports, picking coaches these days is so hard. Its like there is an exact science to doing it, but its less than 50% known yet.

Looking at the previous new coach signings & results ( which is a basic A-F system, completely my opinion based on results & performance) is a real mixed bag. It's also hard to properly rate the new coachs of this season as all their results are quite dramatic, but obviously not sustained - I have rated based on the current perception

Hawks - Sam Mitchell / D+
Pies - Fly / A+
Bombers - One of the Scotts, can't remember / A
Saints - Ross / A
Nth - Clarkson / Ratten. / F or A.Who can honestly tell with that club
Carlton - Voss - C
Giants - Kingsley - B+


Then looking a bit longer

Crows - Matthew Nicks - B+
Freo - Justin Longmuir - B
Nth - Noble - F
Nth - Rhyce Shaw - F
Saints - Brett Ratten - C-


Its a real mix of age, experience & results. Before this season you would 100% be supporting the "first timer with a solid experience" path - but all of Ross, Scott & Clarkson* have had initial solid results & Voss, although declining quite fast, had been doing a solid job. He was probably an A this time last year, for example - its hard to get a read.

The list of known candidates is not strong based on my fairly limited understanding of them. I would have liked the interim role be offered externally to someone who is on the cusp of being a serious candidate - maybe Blake Caracella or Leon Cameron if he wanted it ( ie i would have called him and asked - any interest in earning $500k or whatever the salary is to caretake the team on a known 6 month basis - anything longer than that we both agree is up for discussion and not expected or guaranteed - that could have been good, but likely the above soft cap issue might have made that impossible anyway.
You would also offer it to those 2 as we have history with them and can keep it hush easier to not create issues etc. McQualter has never really blown me away in anything he has done so far with us
 
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