Speculation Harley Reid [OOC 2026]

[Wild Bill]

According to the Essendon board he was very heavily front ended in his first year.

There is a reason the AFL doesn't publish their requirements, and it's so they can manipulate who gets what that suits them better.
Do you honestly think the AFL is straight down the line with it? Honestly?

When you add $ + age + length of contract it 100% makes sense. He was 25 when trade.

Just because he is hopeless doesn’t dilute band 1.

 

[Ura]

I feel for Eagles here. There really seems to be JHF feel about it which wasn’t good for anyone involved. North did manage to pull probably Wardlaw out of that with Goad. Maybe interesting to lock back on.
If Reid made a similar statement and requested a trade to one club curious to see what they would get or if they would try to keep for another year.

 

[fnerd]

With Warner to stay in Sydney now ,there’s no way Reid hangs around after next year.

 

[We_The_West]

If he wants to spend his career missing finals playing for the Bombers at Marvel I'm sure WC fans would be happy taking the Bombers 2 1st rounders this year.

 

[HirdyLannister]

If he wants to spend his career missing finals playing for the Bombers at Marvel I'm sure WC fans would be happy taking the Bombers 2 1st rounders this year.

Looks like WC supporters are at the acceptance phase, from five first rounders down to two.

 

[ReturningHawk]

With Warner to stay in Sydney now ,there’s no way Reid hangs around after next year.

I would've thought that him getting involved in the Warner trade was the best chance of something happening actually. Reid for Warner is close to a fair trade. Reid a bit extra for being younger and in contract.

 

[We_The_West]

Looks like WC supporters are at the acceptance phase, from five first rounders down to two.

2 top 5 picks with a Nic Martin steak knives deal sounds about right.

 

[HirdyLannister]

2 top 5 picks with a Nic Martin steak knives deal sounds about right.

Nope, regressed back to the denial phase.

 

[cAsEy_18]

2 top 5 picks with a Nic Martin steak knives deal sounds about right.

Nic Martin is as good of a player as Reid straight up.



Okay, now that we’re at equally opposite points of unreasonableness, the negotiation can begin.

 

[BigPond101]

How did JHF escape first year while apparently Reid is trapped until 2027 ?

 

[We_The_West]

Nic Martin is as good of a player as Reid straight up.



Okay, now that we’re at equally opposite points of unreasonableness, the negotiation can begin.

2 first rounders for Dylan Shiel....

Easily 5 1st rounders for Harley

 

[Boots73]

2 first rounders and Sam Draper or Nick Bryan

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

If he wants to spend his career missing finals playing for the Bombers at Marvel I'm sure WC fans would be happy taking the Bombers 2 1st rounders this year.

Sounds like Essendon have realized that they need to go back to the draft.

 

[Wild Bill]

How did JHF escape first year while apparently Reid is trapped until 2027 ?

Thet brought in the mummy boy rule. JHF started on a 2 year contract - it now starts as a 3 year contract. The AFL hoped players would grow up enough after 3 years to cut the apron string attached to mummy.

 

[We_The_West]

Thet brought in the mummy boy rule. JHF started on a 2 year contract - it now starts as a 3 year contract. The AFL hoped players would grow up enough after 3 years to cut the apron string attached to mummy.

It's a shame that young players feel entitled enough to demand to play for certain teams.

This was never really an issue 5+ years ago... we've fallen into the empathy trap where clubs and even the AFL are being held hostage by the feelings of players... and yet players (not all) show little empathy for their clubs.

 

[Cleric]

When you add $ + age + length of contract it 100% makes sense. He was 25 when trade.

Just because he is hopeless doesn’t dilute band 1.

Nah, he was never worth band one. Everyone knew he was stink average, and the AFL worked their magic in the basement of AFL house to make him a quasi PP.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Nah, he was never worth band one. Everyone knew he was stink average, and the AFL worked their magic in the basement of AFL house to make him a quasi PP.

Nope. You paid for an AA quality KPD and got Ben McKay.

 

[Cleric]

Thet brought in the mummy boy rule. JHF started on a 2 year contract - it now starts as a 3 year contract. The AFL hoped players would grow up enough after 3 years to cut the apron string attached to mummy.

It was a stupid decision. All it did was limit the wage the player could get in his third year. If there is a player taken in the second round and he jumps out of the box and plays elite football, after his two year deal finishes he can earn a million in his third year. Meanwhile, if a first rounder has an even better career in those first two years he is still stuck on the low payment for a third year.

On.top of that there's nothing stopping a first rounder from demanding a trade after his first year anyway.
Another knee jerk reaction from the AFL that only created an extra issue rather than fix one.

 

[Cleric]

Nope. You paid for an AA quality KPD and got Ben McKay.

Whoever though McKay was a AA quality KPD should be sacked.
His brother at Carlton is also ripping them off.

 

[stallon]

It's a shame that young players feel entitled enough to demand to play for certain teams.

This was never really an issue 5+ years ago... we've fallen into the empathy trap where clubs and even the AFL are being held hostage by the feelings of players... and yet players (not all) show little empathy for their clubs.

Problem is the AFL has already let some young players get away with it, then everybody in subsequent years starts to do it. Soon enough its out of control and ruins the draft even more than it already is.

AFL needs to actually ban some kids for it to go away

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Problem is the AFL has already let some young players get away with it, then everybody in subsequent years starts to do it. Soon enough its out of control and ruins the draft even more than it already is.

AFL needs to actually ban some kids for it to go away

The issue is not the players. The issue is the AFL system has made rebuilds too long and too painful.

 

[Cleric]

Problem is the AFL has already let some young players get away with it, then everybody in subsequent years starts to do it. Soon enough its out of control and ruins the draft even more than it already is.

AFL needs to actually ban some kids for it to go away

I don't agree.
Previously the competition had zones where kids who lived in the area, and were more often than not supporters of the local club, got to play for that team.
That was the beauty of the old system, the majority of the players came from the local community and represented that community.

Today these kids are thrown into a national draft, with no say in where they go, and can be sent to the other side of the country in an absolute shit team.

Allowing the players to find their way back to that local team they supported is something that absolutely should be allowed to happen.

 

[stallon]

The issue is not the players. The issue is the AFL system has made rebuilds too long and too painful.

Rebuilds are meant to take a few years, but when the top clubs dont fall off due to academies and other complexities with the draft system its a bit harder to rebuild successfully, so perhaps more care is taken to make sure its done right

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Rebuilds are meant to take a few years, but when the top clubs dont fall off due to academies and other complexities with the draft system its a bit harder to rebuild successfully, so perhaps more care is taken to make sure its done right

It’s not that at all.

Rebuilds are common in sports. They’re not meant to take 5+ years which is what it takes in AFL and the sheer lack of competitiveness in rebuilding teams is an issue .

It’s quite easy to solve. Lift the draft age to 19. It means players come in a year later, are more developed, more ready to go. It also means better talent id, less busts at the draft.

We draft kids that don’t see any proffessional football for 1-2 years becuase they’re so far off AFL standard becuase the gap from junior footy to AFL is huge.

 

[Cleric]

The issue is not the players. The issue is the AFL system has made rebuilds too long and too painful.

The length a rebuild takes is 100% at the discretion of the team. We saw the rebuilds that Melbourne and Carlton had, where they sat on the bottom for years and years, getting the top picks, and in Melbourne's case, destroying those kids careers, and then we have seen the recent differences between three clubs, North Melbourne, Adelaide and Hawthorn.
North have done a terrible job, Hawthorn bounced back really quickly, and Adelaides rebuild didn't take that long either.

Kids drafted in today's world are far more ready to step up than ever before.
The professionalism that's drummed into these kids in their Jr years is light years beyond anything of yesteryear.
They are all on nutritional diets, have all their skin folds measured, given KPIs to meet, and shown what's required at the AFL level.