Player Watch Harry DeMattia
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An interesting side of this is also how delusional significant portions of a player's support system out there can be about their prospects of making it as a professional.
Every year there are the parents of some kid who played 5 games in the CTL and averaged 8 disposals a game humouring him about watching the draft in hope, pumping him up only to see him disappointed.
Yeah that's very true also in one respect. Surely parents need to be realists.
My biggest issue on the basketball side of things in juniors , its who you know , not how good you are or based on your performance. Unsure what its like in juniors for AFL. The 5 game example youve mentioned is the same in basketball but because of connections , the girls still get picked. Bizarre , can see why some kids code hop
How about this possibility.
Media reports with insider information to back it up. "Collingwood will be taking Marcus Bontempelli at pick 6 in the up coming draft". The Dogs take a closer look at Marcus and after a long discussion decide to take him at pick 4.
Just a hypothetical. Don't shot me.
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lol.
If the dogs think he is worth their first pick….they take him.
What was their second pick?
Did they really think he’d be there then?!?
Absolutely no chance media influences decisions.
(God I hope not!!)
Of course there's a benefit, self promotion. Getting their name out in the media and having contacts, benefits the managers themselves. Possibly this could also benefit their players down the line, but not in terms of being drafted.
The info on where players are picked clearly comes from the clubs, not the media. Every year you'll see that draft rankings alter significantly close to the day as details from clubs leak out.
Maybe there are cases where player managers push players to clubs and help them get onto the radar, but this wouldn't be done through the media. The days of hidden or unknown players are long gone, so I'd think even this is unlikely. I'm sure there are player managers who play this up and may even believe they have some influence, but I'd doubt it.
So the dogs who were watching Bontempelli for 4 years decided to use a top 4 pick on him because the media said Collingwood are interested? Hmmm.. imagine the recruitment meeting.
"I know Bontempelli isn't a favourite here for pick 4, but I've heard from a media source that Collingwood are interested in him... do we just take him then ?????"
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Yes, hypothetical, that's literally what I'm discussing, your hypothetical.
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If you new other respected recruiters were keen, you'd look closer.
The issue I have with you Kappa is that you always approach things from a negative point of view so sorry for the cheap shot.
I wasn't trying to get that deep into it because I feel the whole discussion is basically bs.
If you want a discussion though.....
Lets say the Dogs originally wanted Scharenberg with pick 4 hypothetically (if I remember correctly this was reported). However they had learnt for sure through leaks and via the media(in their eyes) that Collingwood recruiters were going to pick Bontempelli with pick 6 and looking at the Pies recruitment and early picks since Hine had taken over:
Thomas
Pendlebury
Sidebottom
Beams
Reid
Brown
They really trusted and envied the Pies recruitment staff and had even tried to poach them (hypothetically). Because of this they decided to take Bontempelli (he wasnt that far behind Sharenberg in their eyes).
It's bs but is that the convo you are after.
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With top 10 picks, nearly every club would be interested in every prospect.
I think it'd be pretty embarrassing for recruiters to be looking at media leaks of other clubs when deciding who to use a top 5 pick on. If the club hierarchy heard that he'd be looking for new recruiters.
With late round picks u may change ur selection based on who others are picking, but not with a top 5 pick.
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Anyhow, it will be great to see how Harry plays on the weekend. Looking forward to it.
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If a team for the most part had a player “locked in” for their first pick, but perhaps were concerned that their evaluation was out of step with other clubs, I could perhaps see if I squint hard enough that hearing there was a groundswell of interest across rival recruiters might help you feel confident you weren’t Robinson Crusoe and should pull the trigger…
… maybe.
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Apologies for the random bump but I was watching one of Jen's training videos and saw Harry in there and it made me wonder what the deal is with him?
For those watching the VFL more closely than I, is he progressing?
It seems odd to me that our first pick in last year's draft I don't think has even been an emergency (I stand to be corrected here) let alone get a game? Yet TJ has already achieved both.
I'm aware he had his finger injury but that was a while back now.
For those watching the VFL more closely than I, is he progressing?
It seems odd to me that our first pick in last year's draft I don't think has even been an emergency (I stand to be corrected here) let alone get a game? Yet TJ has already achieved both.
I'm aware he had his finger injury but that was a while back now.
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He's getting better each game now. He's slowly progressing now he is playing on the wing.
The only time media would influence a recruiting decision is if they leaked party picks of said player smoking, drug taking and drinking prior to a draft. Would instigate investigation back into players off field habbits.
Bit like Dayle Garlett from years back. Who went from top pick fancy to do not touch. Slipped to Hawks at pick 38 after being talked up as a top 10 pick.
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We have a number of Shaw era types on the list at the moment that are kinda sorta ok at the top level and productive at the lower level keeping him out of the midfield (Long, Sullivan, Macrae and Bytel). That’s meant he’s had to start behind the ball in a pretty rubbish team so it’s been a struggle through the heavy weather months. He took a big stride forward last week, IMO, when he went through the middle so that’s something to build on.
Getting through the next 6 months injury free should be his aim from here with an eye to taking Noble’s spot early in 2025 (not saying he will that’s just what I’d be looking to do if I were him). Along with Allan and TJ he’s one that needs some time. Unlike Parker and HH who I think need to grow into senior players next year if we’re to jump back into the top 8.
