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8 Disposals and 1 goal on a friday night game.
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Has Lance Franklin surpassed Wayne Carey as the greatest key forward of the modern era?
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Classic Bigfooty. A sample size of one game.8 Disposals and 1 goal on a friday night game.
Yeah hes gone past Carey
Interestingly the coaches just voted Buddy the league's MVP by 9 votes to Dangerfield's 7.
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Coaches votes have Dusty ahead of Danger,Buddy not in top 10.
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Not the AFLCA award. Just the coaches' survey they run in July.
To be fair, Carey is now 46 years old. I think Franklin is better than he at the moment, but we will probably never know unless Carey is playing a Teddy Whitten match or something..8 Disposals and 1 goal on a friday night game.
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So the coaches don't have Buddy in the top 10, have Danger 2nd, yet they vote Buddy above Danger.
Do you think that's a little hypocritical?
Yes and no. Purely on this season Buddy isn't the MVP but in an overall sense when you look at a mix of career and current form, then you can make a case.
Oh he might have done the girls part but we know he never kicked 100.
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Different criteria I think. One is tracking performances on a week to week basis. The other is a gut feel "which player is the most valuable to have on your team". Bud certainly not the best player this year but still handy in the eyes of the coaches.
Still doesn't make sense though, because when asked which sort of player most needed, most voted inside mids.
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Yeah. Get your point.
Reminds me of the Federer Nadal argument. Hard to say really.Don't know if you can be considered the greatest of all time if Tom Lonergan consistently beats you. Or maybe Lonergan should be considered one of the best key defenders of all time?
Not saying Carey isnt an all time great but there is no way he covered as much ground as Franklin does or would go anywhere near him athletically. Franklin would have him covered confortably for pace over any distance you care to name and is around 7cm taller and over 10kg heavier.
That's a fair question to be honest. Hard to really judge their opinions on a gut feeling opinion survey.
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8 Disposals and 1 goal on a friday night game.
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Interestingly, at the same age, Carey had a 7-disposal, 0-goal game against Sydney on a Saturday night in Round 18, 2001 - http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2001/121620010804.html
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Carey had several huge games at CHB- I remember he had 32 possessions against Geelong at CHB one game, could have been a great CHB. Was good on the ball when moved there as well.
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One thing buddy has over carey is durability.
Carey was cooked by the end of 2001. All those contested grabs must have ****ed his shoulders
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I can see Buddy dropping off a lot over the next 12 months. He's starting to lose that athleticism that's crucial to his ability to find space - space and a long kick that previously gave him the insane ability to generate shots from anywhere.
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One thing buddy has over carey is durability.
Carey was cooked by the end of 2001. All those contested grabs must have ****** his shoulders
I think that will be the deciding factor once it's all said and done. Buddy will just have a larger body of quality work.
Carey was declining heavily during 2001, obviously spent all of 2002 on the sidelines, and was a shadow of his best in two seasons in Adelaide.
Fitness pending, you can foresee Buddy ageing a fair bit more gracefully, and comfortably end up a 300 game/900 goal player. Buddy will begin to decline due to age, but current form suggests the fall won't nearly be as steep as it was for Duck. Buddy is of course reliant on his physical gifts like Duck was, but not in as much of a physically taxing, wear-and-tear kind of way, so you would assume the physical decline won't happen as sharply either.
Gee good thread.
Buddy and Carey are hard to separate.
What i love about both of them is their onfield presence. A bit arrogance in both of them which is fantastic, with the godlike ability to back it up, i think it adds character to the game. Something that is sorely missing generally.
I have no conclusion, both are greats of the game.
Buddy and Carey are hard to separate.
What i love about both of them is their onfield presence. A bit arrogance in both of them which is fantastic, with the godlike ability to back it up, i think it adds character to the game. Something that is sorely missing generally.
I have no conclusion, both are greats of the game.
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