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Selection headaches galore. Good to have.

Inevitably there will be injuries, and I feel we're building really good depth. Everywhere except maybe in the tall forward department....
Hi Roddy
in reply checked out how many players missing per match. My guess is about 10% so missing 2-3 players each week of the starting 23. We need minimum 7-8 AFL ready players across each line, short and tall.
Those extra players will be super important come the pointy end of the season, ensuing they are AFL ready they will need a few games for exposure thru the year. It's the list, its always the list!

AFL site: The total injury recurrence rate remains low at nine per cent and has been relatively stable over the past five years.
The updated AFL & AFLW Concussion Guidelines for 2021 promoted a more conservative graded step wise return to play approach following concussion mandating for the first time that a player suffering a concussion must miss one or more matches to accommodate the graded return to play protocol. In following the guidelines, the earliest that a player could return to play after a concussion was 12 days, meaning that players with a concussion were required to miss at least one match (other than where no match was scheduled in the 12-day period after the concussion) and are therefore included in the incidence figures.
 
Player managers are free to talk to the media. Player has exit interview, advises management of what is said. Journos try the club and get a straight bat answer. Try the player and get a straight bat answer. Try the manager who will often talk and share what the thinking is with their player.
player managers are biased. Clubs and player managers all want to say a player is required unless the negotiation is at a progressed level.

If sydney are exposed for missing a tall defender this week, Frosts value goes up in a trade scenario
 
I really do wonder if we're going to seriously hunt a key forward this trade period. Our KPF position is not terrible, but not great.

Dear is going to be a star, we can be reasonably assured of that.
Lewis could be a star but is monumentally injury prone, and may not be back 'til mid-season next year.
Chol was fantastic during the H&A, exceeded my expectations, but was found wanting a little in finals when the whips were cracking.
Scaife looks a strong prospect but is very young and untested. Could go either way.
Gunners has one year left.
Ramma, as a ruck/forward: obviously the jury is still way, way out on him.
Who else is there?

I think we need to go hunting....

No point getting another alright key forward.

But if the right one comes available in the next year or two then for sure - go all in on it - would you do the Jeremy Cameron trade Geelong did for a star key forward?
 

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We surely aren't moving both Amon and Weddle out of the backline at the same time. Our run/drive from defence would be really affected by that.

Unless there's a new iteration of the gameplan in the works?

Where does he play? Who comes out of the side? He needs a big injury-free preseason (this is really the key) as his form this year was mostly terrible. We already need to drop two others from the side to make way for Barrass and Battle coming, and better players like Weddle will seemingly be moved up the field into a competing position with CJ.

Edit: Mackenzie should be coming back into the team too, and Day is absolutely coming straight back in. That's three changes, maybe four, before we get to CJ.

Funnily enough the second post somewhat answers the first. CJ's best form in our side has come from the halfback line where he was becoming a bloody handy intercept and rebounding defender. If he can get fit and back to his best I would rather see him playing back there and Weddle more around the ground and Amon back to the wing.
 
Blackhawk42 no room for CJ in your team?

Not after Harry Morrison's finals series.

Earlier in the year I said I'd personally play Harry over CJ if there could only be one for the wing spot.
CJ was clearly favoured for the role in reality, and I adjusted my expectations as a result.
Once Harry came back in and proved my initial feelings correct, I've swapped them again.

Happy for people to disagree though.
 
Not after Harry Morrison's finals series.

Earlier in the year I said I'd personally play Harry over CJ if there could only be one for the wing spot.
CJ was clearly favoured for the role in reality, and I adjusted my expectations as a result.
Once Harry came back in and proved my initial feelings correct, I've swapped them again.

Happy for people to disagree though.
Doubt Harry will be there next year.
 
Funnily enough the second post somewhat answers the first. CJ's best form in our side has come from the halfback line where he was becoming a bloody handy intercept and rebounding defender. If he can get fit and back to his best I would rather see him playing back there and Weddle more around the ground and Amon back to the wing.
I also believe CJ is much better suited to half back than wing.

At half back the game is simple for him, get the ball and then drive it forward. The ground opens up for him.

Playing wing I feel he gets lost and ends up doing a lot of running for little reward.

Playing half back he also gets to utilise his second best asset which is contested marking.
 
Not after Harry Morrison's finals series.

Earlier in the year I said I'd personally play Harry over CJ if there could only be one for the wing spot.
CJ was clearly favoured for the role in reality, and I adjusted my expectations as a result.
Once Harry came back in and proved my initial feelings correct, I've swapped them again.

Happy for people to disagree though.
Harry really was very good on the wing those two finals. He’s such a clean user of the ball and he knows where to run to get it as well.
 
Prefer to keep Morrison, valuable role player and we will get nothing if he leaves.
Another poster said last week about Harry is that the one thing Harry won’t do is let you down in a big game as we saw in the finals.

He’s worth keeping for that alone, knowing we have a guy on the list who can come in at a moments notice from the VFL and do his role to perfection.
 
F Dear Sicily Watson
HF Moore Lewis MacDonald
C Weddle Worpel DamBrosio
HB Hardwick Scrimshaw Amon
B Frost Barass Battle
Foll Meek Newcombe Day
Int Chol Weddle Nash Impey

That's how I'd love to see us line up.

Breust and Gunston left out makes it easier to see the future and I'm prob a midfielder or two short.
But geez - no room for Ginnivan, McKenzie, Ward, Maginess, Morrison in there.
 

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F Dear Sicily Watson
HF Moore Lewis MacDonald
C Weddle Worpel DamBrosio
HB Hardwick Scrimshaw Amon
B Frost Barass Battle
Foll Meek Newcombe Day
Int Chol Weddle Nash Impey

That's how I'd love to see us line up.

Breust and Gunston left out makes it easier to see the future and I'm prob a midfielder or two short.
But geez - no room for Ginnivan, McKenzie, Ward, Maginess, Morrison in there.
Any side with 2 Josh Weddles in it is my kind of team!
 
Won't play in the middle mate.
Hope we turn him into a chf or at the very least play him in that high half forward role. Such a tough up match up with his sheer size and exceptional running ability both leading up at the ball and then working hard back toward goal. Much like Nick Riewoldt used to do.
 
F Dear Sicily Watson
HF Moore Lewis MacDonald
C Weddle Worpel DamBrosio
HB Hardwick Scrimshaw Amon
B Frost Barass Battle
Foll Meek Newcombe Day
Int Chol Weddle Nash Impey

That's how I'd love to see us line up.

Breust and Gunston left out makes it easier to see the future and I'm prob a midfielder or two short.
But geez - no room for Ginnivan, McKenzie, Ward, Maginess, Morrison in there.
Ginnivan, Ward and Mackenzie for Frost (unlucky), Weddle listed twice and the missing 23rd man!
 
F Dear Sicily Watson
HF Moore Lewis MacDonald
C Weddle Worpel DamBrosio
HB Hardwick Scrimshaw Amon
B Frost Barass Battle
Foll Meek Newcombe Day
Int Chol Weddle Nash Impey

That's how I'd love to see us line up.

Breust and Gunston left out makes it easier to see the future and I'm prob a midfielder or two short.
But geez - no room for Ginnivan, McKenzie, Ward, Maginess, Morrison in there.
Looking at the above I think there is a fair argument to make that we have one of the deepest lists in the comp next year.

Except maybe for key forwards. Although Lewis back would help that.
 
I also believe CJ is much better suited to half back than wing. At half back the game is simple for him, get the ball and then drive it forward. The ground opens up for him. Playing wing I feel he gets lost and ends up doing a lot of running for little reward.
Little personal reward by way of possessions, perhaps.

On the other hand, there's massive benefit to the team as he defends the 100m from HFF to BP like few in the game can.
 
So best 23 assuming bench 5 round 1 without Lewis
Hardwick Barrass Scrimshaw
Impey Battle Sicily
Weddle Newk Massimo
Moore Chol CMac
Watson Dear Ginnivan
Meek Day Worpel
Nash Mackenzie Frost Amon Maginness
Emergencies from:
Ward Morrison CJ Gunston Breust Serong Mitchell
Feels like another tall or third forward is about the only gal accepting the second ruck is filled with Chol Weddle Nash as chop outs. Actually keen to see Chol do more rucking next year especially early to get him involved. Again feel like that requires 1 extra tall forward to release him.
 
So best 23 assuming bench 5 round 1 without Lewis
Hardwick Barrass Scrimshaw
Impey Battle Sicily
Weddle Newk Massimo
Moore Chol CMac
Watson Dear Ginnivan
Meek Day Worpel
Nash Mackenzie Frost Amon Maginness
Emergencies from:
Ward Morrison CJ Gunston Breust Serong Mitchell
Feels like another tall or third forward is about the only gal accepting the second ruck is filled with Chol Weddle Nash as chop outs. Actually keen to see Chol do more rucking next year especially early to get him involved. Again feel like that requires 1 extra tall forward to release him.
Needs more running options from Defence, for mine. My best 22 (23), including Lewis:

FB: Frost.....Barrass.....Impey
HB: Battle..Scrimshaw...Amon
Ce: Weddle.....Day.......Massi
Foll: Meek.....Duke.....Worpel
HF: Sicily.......Lewis......Ginni
FF: Chol.........Dear......Wizard

I/C: Moore..Nash..Croc..Frenchie..Hardwick (Fwd/Def)
Em. from: CJ.....Morrison.....Maginness.....Ward

With Lewis out, I push Weddle to CHF & elevate either CJ or Harry M. Or maybe Ward. Or Maginness... :think: :shrug:
 
Needs more running options from Defence, for mine. My best 22 (23), including Lewis:

FB: Frost.....Barrass.....Impey
HB: Battle..Scrimshaw...Amon
Ce: Weddle.....Day.......Massi
Foll: Meek.....Duke.....Worpel
HF: Sicily.......Lewis......Ginni
FF: Chol.........Dear......Wizard

I/C: Moore..Nash..Croc..Frenchie..Hardwick (Fwd/Def)
Em. from: CJ.....Morrison.....Maginness.....Ward

With Lewis out, I push Weddle to CHF & elevate either CJ or Harry M. Or maybe Ward. Or Maginness... :think: :shrug:
maybe but we have the same team except Lewis v Maginness so it’s a positional question only.
 
maybe but we have the same team except Lewis v Maginness so it’s a positional question only.
Surely you didn't expect me to read through all 23 players before replying???

It's the Internet, man - this post will be old news before AI has even finished creating it!
 

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