Hope so.
It's the only thing to look forward to this year.
Agree.....and the free agency period!
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Hope so.
It's the only thing to look forward to this year.
Abasi must be related to R.Lyon.Personally i am frustrated the club haven't given some of the younger players more of a go.
Brought a couple more in the last few weeks at least.
Nice use of stats... why only the round 5 teams?I'm simply proving that the idea that Sydney have played kids while Hawthorn have not is a myth.
Under 20 games played(this weeks teams).
Sydney - 32 players used in 2017
Marsh - 11 games
Melican - 0 games
Hayward - 3 games
Foote - 4 games
Newman(emerg) - 3 games
Hawthorn - 31 players used in 2017
Burton - 7 games
Brand - 13 games
O'Brien - 19 games
Howe - 15 games
Hardwick - 2 games
Stewart (emerg) - 4 games
You mean the AFL determined...Really not much point comparing to Sydney. Another club determined that bottoming out is not desirable.
Played more youngsters cos they have a few more injuries
Wouldn't it make sense to look at the named teams for this week, when discussing if Hawthorn are playing kids or not?Why are you only looking at the r5 named teams?
That's great. Brand and Howe probably would've played similar if they weren't coming back from injury themselves.Florent and Marsh have played all 4 games so far.
That's great too.Alliir, Fox, Foote, Hayward and Newman have all played in 3 of the 4 games so far.
Ok, cool. I'm not arguing that they haven't.Sydney have been playing the kids...Hewett, and Mills also played all 4 and they in the 20 games mark.
And? Is there some sort of rule that says you've only played kids if they've played all 4 games?15 Hawks have played all 4 games so far, Langford the least experienced and he is a 50 gamer.
So what you're saying is that unless the kids come in and play more than 3 games in a row, they're not actually playing games?Burton the only kid to get 3 games to date at the Hawks.
Again, what's this 3 or more games business?This is a team made up of Hawks who played 3 or more games to date in 2017
Henderson, Frawley, Stratton
Hodge, Gibson, Burgoyne
Smith, Shiels, JOM
Breust, Roughy, Gunston
Rioli, Vickery, Poppy
McEvoy, T.Mitchell, Langford
Int Burton
Hawks playing the kids!!
Hawthorn have had a consistent senior team on the park.I just don't understand why they have to have played 3 games this year? Seems to be manipulating the criteria to try and prove a stupid point...
We have played 8 kids in the first 5 rounds with less than 20 games....I expect that number to increase as the season progresses and Clarko concedes our season is shot.
Sydney's hand has been forced due to injury so it's a dumb comparison
Hawthorn have had a consistent senior team on the park.
Rotating Hardwick, Miles, Stewart through the final two bench spots is hardly playing the kids.
On the other hand Sydney have actually played kids and they have been ok.
This week the Swans get a couple of senior guys back so have been able to leave out kids for a change.
It was Abasi trying to claim Hawthorn have been playing kids just as much as the Swans, which is utter tripe.
Named teams for Rd5 is in the future.Wouldn't it make sense to look at the named teams for this week, when discussing if Hawthorn are playing kids or not?
Best way to show who is playing the kids is count games played by kids to date in 2017.So what you're saying is that unless the kids come in and play more than 3 games in a row, they're not actually playing games?
Let's change your arbitrary criteria to mine(if they've played, they've played). And see what we get.A partial team using Sydney guys who have played 3 or more games to date in 2017, but have played less than 25 games at the start of the season
B - Marsh
HB - Mills, Allir, Newman
C - Hewett, Florent
HF - Fox
F - Hayward
Foll - Naismith, Foote
Yeah, Sydney have an excuse for their slow start...their team has been full of kids.Actually all he was doing was replying to another poster who said "unlike Sydney, Hawthorn are not playing the kids"
Which is incorrect. hawthorn are playing kids while still trying to win games, unfortunately they are failing at that dismally. Just because Hawthorn haven't played as many kids as Sydney, who incidentally have been forced to due to injuries, doesn't mean they are not playing the kids they feel are ready.
It's just another stupid big footy argument where people misrepresent each other. If you look at it objectively, this weeks team is more representative of the one the Swans want to put on the park each week and 5 of those kids have been dropped. I think you'll see the opposite happen at the Hawks in the coming weeks which is indicitiv elf where our lists are at.
Burton has played every game but apart from that you are pretty much right.Sydney are playing kids, Clarko has stuck fat with his veterans and just rotated the bench spots.
Yeah, Sydney have an excuse for their slow start...their team has been full of kids.
Hawthorn on the other hand, it is the same veteran names on the park.
Burton has played every game but apart from that you are pretty much right.
I do think Brand would have played every game too if not for injury.
Personally miffed as to why Stewart hasn't been given more games.
I do expect this to change as the season progresses.
Clarko clearly thought his veteran team was still a contender. You dont need to play kids when you are contending, senior blokes like Henderson and Vickery will fill a role instead and the Hawks would keep winning.Personally miffed as to why Stewart hasn't been given more games.
I do expect this to change as the season progresses more youngsters brought in the last 2 weeks.
Yeah, Sydney have an excuse for their slow start...their team has been full of kids.
Hawthorn on the other hand, it is the same veteran names on the park.
Brand most definitely and most likely O'Rourke too.Brand, O'Rourke and Howe would've played more games, if they weren't coming back from injury themselves at Round 1.
They obviously overrated where the list was at bringing those 2 into the club.Clarko clearly thought his veteran team was still a contender. You dont need to play kids when you are contending, senior blokes like Henderson and Vickery will fill a role instead and the Hawks would keep winning.
Whoops.
Here's a question for you though. Keeping in mind the state of each of our lists, if Hawthorn were to finish bottom 4, and Sydney were to miss the finals and finish between 9th and 12th which team has had the biggest failure
That is my read on it.They obviously overrated where the list was at bringing those 2 into the club.
Henderson dropped this week and i wouldn't play him again unless we have major injury issues.
Dunstall called it very early last year that we couldn't win the flag and people thought he was crazy.That is my read on it.
Isn't Dunstall big on understanding where your list is at? Wonder what his view is?
Yes, Collingwood are fecked too by the way as we are just stuck in no man's land.
Quality cringe right therelet me say this after you said that...
bulldogs aren't about anything other than small triggers of the heart.
penetration is an in ground thing that only certain teams can work on.
so they will travel only as far as their lifelong message will take them...
this is something that only certain types of people will understand.
history repeats only when it resonates with the larger family.
Contending would have been the best case scenario, but regardless, Clarkson wanted Vickery and Henderson to come in and play roles which his gameplan requires(Hale and Hill).Clarko clearly thought his veteran team was still a contender. You dont need to play kids when you are contending, senior blokes like Henderson and Vickery will fill a role instead and the Hawks would keep winning.
Whoops.
Why are you only looking at the r5 named teams?
A partial team using Sydney guys who have played 3 or more games to date in 2017, but have played less than 25 games at rhe start of the season
B - Marsh
HB - Mills, Allir, Newman
C - Hewett, Florent
HF - Fox
F - Hayward
Foll - Naismith, Foote
Longmire is clearly actually playing plenty of kids, more than he would have wanted due to absence of senior players...surprising they have actually been competitive at all.
The equivalent Hawthorn team
B -
HB -
C -
HF -
F -
FOLL -
IC - Burton