News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

[Strapping Young Lad]

Wrong. Hawks did what they had to do by the rules of the AFL.

Correct. For reference below, once the HFC had the report outlining serious allegations they were duty bound by the AFL’s protocol to hand over the report to the AFL integrity unit.

I will pin this post, as it seems to be a constant query.

 

[The hands of stone]

Bruce Doull, it doesn’t matter. It is probably 1/40 on a list. We can list all the Aussie nicknames.

Context, culture are relevant in the families argument.

As a learn for me , how would the nickname Humphrey potentially be culturally insensitive?

You seem well connected and I think it would probably help .
The rest is absolutely self explanatory

 

[South of the Yarra]

As a learn for me , how would the nickname Humphrey potentially be culturally insensitive?

You seem well connected and I think it would probably help .
The rest is absolutely self explanatory

Excuse the intrusion. Happy to add something to this but I will start by saying this is not a suggestion of why the name Humphrey was used in this case as I do not know the intent. i am simply speaking in general terms. I have known of Aboriginals who have been referred to as a bear due to what is perceived as their laconic and lazy nature. if you look in literature, media and film bears are often portrayed as lazy, cumbersome, disinterested and not overly bright. Bears are known for being sleepy, hibernating and not being involved. The word bear has been used to highlight that an Aboriginal is lazy, quiet and disinterested. Again, this is in general terms, not specific to this situation.

 

[cryptor]

I've read through the full Statement of Claim. I can see why there is debate over whether or not particular events or quotes were actually motivated by or even influenced by race. But what's clear is that there was a systemic problem at the club.

The club's treatment of Egan shows how little the ILO role was valued at the time and honestly it broke my heart reading how he was excluded. So many of the issues experienced by the players could have been quickly resolved, improved or even avoided completely had that role been properly resourced.

The advising or persuading of the players against taking up a player manager - and even volunteering to represent them! It doesn't even matter if that offer comes from a good place. That's such an egregious conflict of interest.

To then be providing personal advice discouraging certain personal relationships and active pregnancies within meetings where job performance was on the agenda is totally ****ed up. Anyone, regardless of race or culture could easily interpret it as being a directive tied to their employment.

The players needed true independent and culturally informed representation in those type of meetings. Failure to provide that and even actively discouraging it at times is where I see the key failing by the club. Everything else stems from that.

Shannyn obviously recognised this via Cyril and even attempted on multiple occasions to help the club uplift but was effectively rejected. She tried to warn them and nobody in charge would listen and now the club is rightfully being sued and will lose in my opinion.

 

[SammyC]

I've read through the full Statement of Claim. I can see why there is debate over whether or not particular events or quotes were actually motivated by or even influenced by race. But what's clear is that there was a systemic problem at the club.

The club's treatment of Egan shows how little the ILO role was valued at the time and honestly it broke my heart reading how he was excluded. So many of the issues experienced by the players could have been quickly resolved, improved or even avoided completely had that role been properly resourced.

The advising or persuading of the players against taking up a player manager - and even volunteering to represent them! It doesn't even matter if that offer comes from a good place. That's such an egregious conflict of interest.

To then be providing personal advice discouraging certain personal relationships and active pregnancies within meetings where job performance was on the agenda is totally ****ed up. Anyone, regardless of race or culture could easily interpret it as being a directive tied to their employment.

The players needed true independent and culturally informed representation in those type of meetings. Failure to provide that and even actively discouraging it at times is where I see the key failing by the club. Everything else stems from that.

Shannyn obviously recognised this via Cyril and even attempted on multiple occasions to help the club uplift but was effectively rejected. She tried to warn them and nobody in charge would listen and now the club is rightfully being sued and will lose in my opinion.

this

 

[RCAB]

Excuse the intrusion. Happy to add something to this but I will start by saying this is not a suggestion of why the name Humphrey was used in this case as I do not know the intent. i am simply speaking in general terms. I have known of Aboriginals who have been referred to as a bear due to what is perceived as their laconic and lazy nature. if you look in literature, media and film bears are often portrayed as lazy, cumbersome, disinterested and not overly bright. Bears are known for being sleepy, hibernating and not being involved. The word bear has been used to highlight that an Aboriginal is lazy, quiet and disinterested. Again, this is in general terms, not specific to this situation.

There's no doubt this is what was intended. This is the reason, amongst even more deplorable things that happened at the club, the Cyril felt aggrieved and felt the need to include this in his application.


Hawthorn supporters here claiming it was just a harmless nickname, are continuing the cycle of systemic racism, and why it's hard for things to change in this country when it comes to Aboriginals.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Excuse the intrusion. Happy to add something to this but I will start by saying this is not a suggestion of why the name Humphrey was used in this case as I do not know the intent. i am simply speaking in general terms. I have known of Aboriginals who have been referred to as a bear due to what is perceived as their laconic and lazy nature. if you look in literature, media and film bears are often portrayed as lazy, cumbersome, disinterested and not overly bright. Bears are known for being sleepy, hibernating and not being involved. The word bear has been used to highlight that an Aboriginal is lazy, quiet and disinterested. Again, this is in general terms, not specific to this situation.

He was called that because he was quiet and shy. It’s a pretty common nickname as has been highlighted in posts above, as the character Humphrey Bear never spoke.

I don’t think Cyril was ever really perceived at Hawthorn in the way you’ve explained above.

That being said, if “Bear” is used as a common nickname as you’ve described, then I can understand that is would feel offensive to Cyril and quite ignorantly applied to him despite it meaning something else.

 

[I wanna pash Nash]

There's no doubt this is what was intended. This is the reason, amongst even more deplorable things that happened at the club, the Cyril felt aggrieved and felt the need to include this in his application.


Hawthorn supporters here claiming it was just a harmless nickname, are continuing the cycle of systemic racism, and why it's hard for things to change in this country when it comes to Aboriginals.

I think this is possibly a stretch mate. I don't think any of us can be sure about the intent.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

The White Australia policy was systemic racism, ie the System, or Govt, legalising racism with disparate treatment based simply on race.

I fully understand people now passionately try to define systemic racism as guilt-by-existence, unconsciously evil by the very nature of one’s race. I don’t agree with that extreme viewpoint and think it’s fundamentally and tragically wrong to judge someone a racist simply by their skin color, or sex, or age. As equally wrong as judging someone inferior by the same reasoning.

So, if someone is experiencing systemic racism, say legally prevented from shopping in a store because of their skin colour, let me know and I’ll join you on the steps of parliament. If someone is experiencing illegal racism, let me know and I’ll join you in reporting it to the police.

But if we’re going to argue that hurt feelings, as unfortunate as they are, constitutes systemic racism, then I don’t agree. Everyone’s feelings get hurt, even mine, and if we’re going to call everything that results in hurt feelings an overt (if unconscious), racist act, then we have gutted all meaning from the word racism and all agency from the racist. That Maoist, struggle session-enabling philosophy destroys the human spirit. It’s a bad social paradigm and despite the emotional appeal of spiritual atonement for unconscious and original sins, it should be rejected.

You’re concerned for destruction of the human spirit of calling people racist - but you don’t think a lifetime of encountering and enduring unconscious (or sometimes not so unconscious) racial biases would also destroy your spirit after a while? You can diminish other people’s lived experience as ‘hurt feelings’ all you want - but if you hear people talk about it (such as Chad Wingard’s interview a few years back) it’s clearly more than that.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

On the Humphrey thing - this goes back to the issue of the footy club being culturally safe. If Cyril doesn’t like the nickname, feels it has a connotation but doesn’t feel he can speak up and say something then there is an issue at play. It’s the same as the pinheads who cling to ‘but He PuT it In the FoOtY rEcOrD’ with Lamumba’s racist nickname. If you feel you can’t speak out and say ‘hey I don’t like that nickname because of X’ then that’s not a great thing.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Chris Mew, Grant Birchall, Matthew Kreuzer, Cyril Rioli.

All were affectionately known to their peers as "Humphrey" early on (or throughout) their careers.

Chris Mew was known as “Teddy”

 

[HedgeFund]

I've read through the full Statement of Claim. I can see why there is debate over whether or not particular events or quotes were actually motivated by or even influenced by race. But what's clear is that there was a systemic problem at the club.

The club's treatment of Egan shows how little the ILO role was valued at the time and honestly it broke my heart reading how he was excluded. So many of the issues experienced by the players could have been quickly resolved, improved or even avoided completely had that role been properly resourced.

The advising or persuading of the players against taking up a player manager - and even volunteering to represent them! It doesn't even matter if that offer comes from a good place. That's such an egregious conflict of interest.

To then be providing personal advice discouraging certain personal relationships and active pregnancies within meetings where job performance was on the agenda is totally ****ed up. Anyone, regardless of race or culture could easily interpret it as being a directive tied to their employment.

The players needed true independent and culturally informed representation in those type of meetings. Failure to provide that and even actively discouraging it at times is where I see the key failing by the club. Everything else stems from that.

Shannyn obviously recognised this via Cyril and even attempted on multiple occasions to help the club uplift but was effectively rejected. She tried to warn them and nobody in charge would listen and now the club is rightfully being sued and will lose in my opinion.

Spot on.

I think the key driver of this is the failure to utilise the (very part time resource) Egan during the course of several meetings with players where their welfare was clearly the focus.

It suggests that the football department chose to lean on these players in the absence of the very resource who was employed to assist in this regard.

IF PROVEN……

its bad enough that some of this conduct occurred, but in circumstances where there’s an ILO available and that resource is excluded…..well it suggests this was merely window dressing.

Napoleon did whatever he wanted.

….and we paid him $1m to not coach.

 

[brad sue well]

I've read through the full Statement of Claim. I can see why there is debate over whether or not particular events or quotes were actually motivated by or even influenced by race. But what's clear is that there was a systemic problem at the club.

The club's treatment of Egan shows how little the ILO role was valued at the time and honestly it broke my heart reading how he was excluded. So many of the issues experienced by the players could have been quickly resolved, improved or even avoided completely had that role been properly resourced.

The advising or persuading of the players against taking up a player manager - and even volunteering to represent them! It doesn't even matter if that offer comes from a good place. That's such an egregious conflict of interest.

To then be providing personal advice discouraging certain personal relationships and active pregnancies within meetings where job performance was on the agenda is totally ****ed up. Anyone, regardless of race or culture could easily interpret it as being a directive tied to their employment.

The players needed true independent and culturally informed representation in those type of meetings. Failure to provide that and even actively discouraging it at times is where I see the key failing by the club. Everything else stems from that.

Shannyn obviously recognised this via Cyril and even attempted on multiple occasions to help the club uplift but was effectively rejected. She tried to warn them and nobody in charge would listen and now the club is rightfully being sued and will lose in my opinion.

I wish I could write this well.

 

[brad sue well]

As a learn for me , how would the nickname Humphrey potentially be culturally insensitive?

You seem well connected and I think it would probably help .
The rest is absolutely self explanatory

I’m probably not going to reply to all the sh!t that will come.

The non-Indigenous players listed are different because they aren’t Indigenous. As I’ve said you can be racist to one person and say the same thing to another and not be. Nuance that some miss. Say the N word to me and it’s not racist, go to the US and don’t bother booking a return ticket. Same applies for the Birchall allegation.

A fictional character, child level entertainment. Funny, gets in strife. An animal with human characteristics and dark colour, can be seen to draw parallels and be a put down. @SouthoftheYarra, thank you for what you wrote. While they aren’t Cyril characteristics they apply as a stereotype (can’t train, no endurance, whether true or not).

Cyril may have been fine with it first time and giggled and gave Clarkson unspoken but unintended approval. Doing something over and over is different. I think it would be extremely rare for any 18, 19 or even 20-year-old to speak up to counter their coach. I met two non-Indigenous Hawks on the list at the time in question after they retired and into their 30s and it was very clear that you would never cross Alistair Clarkson, he would give it to anyone and we know that is from the top of an organisation right down to a junior game umpire. This was years after retirement, one touted as captain but perennially injured and one who Clarkson brought back to the club years later.

I recall one of the senior Saints talking about how all the players hang sh!t on Dal Santo when he decided to give himself his own nickname.

What if Cyril and other Indigenous players are actually more animated and outgoing than they generally present but can’t truly feel like they can be themselves and so a default is being quieter. Day in, day out at work. Most would just conform. Cyril had a culture shock in Melbourne, that probably went up as a pro athlete. Being reminded of this every time your name is called can be a constant put down. Cyril is Cyril Jnr, a real statement from his family passed down. My working history is to ask somebody’s preferred name, especially those from a diverse background. I’ll ask for understanding so I can be respectful, I still mangle pronunciations. I totally get how that is different when I’m in a football club though.

Shyness for Indigenous communities is a talking point and complex. As a nickname, it follows him around.

https://www.goldcoast.health.qld.go...les/PUB.0256.01_A&TSI-Identify-fact-sheet.pdf (https://www.goldcoast.health.qld.go...les/PUB.0256.01_A&TSI-Identify-fact-sheet.pdf)

I recall Clarkson calling him Junior/Boy around 2008 in the media. None of us know of their private conversations had Humphrey have been used in a different verbal tone or even interpreted that way. I know this might send a few of you around the twist, but it’s a possibility.

Was Buddy nicknamed Emu? I don’t speak for him but this to me is complementary being an Indigenous animal to Australia, an Indigenous man, tall, athletic, fast. An animal that is chosen by (not for in the Humphrey example) by Indigenous communities in dance, totem etc. https://www.commonground.org.au/article/connection-to-animals-and-country (https://www.commonground.org.au/article/connection-to-animals-and-country)

Shy or Silence or respectful lack of Eye Contact or Yes. Titles are very meaningful as well. Do Indigenous communities even use nicknames that belittle/banter in that Aussie way, I have no idea?

https://www.health.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0021/151923/communicating.pdf (https://www.health.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0021/151923/communicating.pdf)

Héritier Lumumba mentioned being called a chimp, monkey etc. A lot of history behind this. Andrew Symonds… These are parallels.

Where does all this fit in with strict definitions of the law? We need to find a decision somehow. Frankly the legal system in Australia is a white construct adopted from the UK? Regardless of the Federal Court outcome I do back these families, I don’t think it’s the right thing to do, to turn your back on people when they’re saying hey I’m in a whole lot of pain here and that may not fit into section C, point 2 of Act whatever you want to be.

Years ago, the Herald Sun cartoon of Serena Williams was a big talking point. The Outer Sanctum episode in response was an incredibly nuanced and well argued justification as to why it is seen as racist. Look it up, it’s great. Emma Race, Hawthorn number one ticket holder? is on that podcast and her husband hosts the same cartoonist every year on grand final week on his footy show.

There can be many things to consider, in isolation or in smaller amounts, maybe not a big deal. Add in oth
er really serious allegations with common themes…

Clarkson has a sound knowledge of Indigenous culture. He knew a fair bit of these examples but not all, he hired a specialist to interpret/educate but excluded him.


@dogday, I know you prefer a narrower viewpoint.

 

[The hands of stone]

I’m probably not going to reply to all the sh!t that will come.

The non-Indigenous players listed are different because they aren’t Indigenous. As I’ve said you can be racist to one person and say the same thing to another and not be. Nuance that some miss. Say the N word to me and it’s not racist, go to the US and don’t bother booking a return ticket. Same applies for the Birchall allegation.

A fictional character, child level entertainment. Funny, gets in strife. An animal with human characteristics and dark colour, can be seen to draw parallels and be a put down. @SouthoftheYarra, thank you for what you wrote. While they aren’t Cyril characteristics they apply as a stereotype (can’t train, no endurance, whether true or not).

Cyril may have been fine with it first time and giggled and gave Clarkson unspoken but unintended approval. Doing something over and over is different. I think it would be extremely rare for any 18, 19 or even 20-year-old to speak up to counter their coach. I met two non-Indigenous Hawks on the list at the time in question after they retired and into their 30s and it was very clear that you would never cross Alistair Clarkson, he would give it to anyone and we know that is from the top of an organisation right down to a junior game umpire. This was years after retirement, one touted as captain but perennially injured and one who Clarkson brought back to the club years later.

I recall one of the senior Saints talking about how all the players hang sh!t on Dal Santo when he decided to give himself his own nickname.

What if Cyril and other Indigenous players are actually more animated and outgoing than they generally present but can’t truly feel like they can be themselves and so a default is being quieter. Day in, day out at work. Most would just conform. Cyril had a culture shock in Melbourne, that probably went up as a pro athlete. Being reminded of this every time your name is called can be a constant put down. Cyril is Cyril Jnr, a real statement from his family passed down. My working history is to ask somebody’s preferred name, especially those from a diverse background. I’ll ask for understanding so I can be respectful, I still mangle pronunciations. I totally get how that is different when I’m in a football club though.

Shyness for Indigenous communities is a talking point and complex. As a nickname, it follows him around.

https://www.goldcoast.health.qld.gov.au/sites/default/files/PUB.0256.01_A&TSI-Identify-fact-sheet.pdf (https://www.goldcoast.health.qld.gov.au/sites/default/files/PUB.0256.01_A&TSI-Identify-fact-sheet.pdf)

I recall Clarkson calling him Junior/Boy around 2008 in the media. None of us know of their private conversations had Humphrey have been used in a different verbal tone or even interpreted that way. I know this might send a few of you around the twist, but it’s a possibility.

Was Buddy nicknamed Emu? I don’t speak for him but this to me is complementary being an Indigenous animal to Australia, an Indigenous man, tall, athletic, fast. An animal that is chosen by (not for in the Humphrey example) by Indigenous communities in dance, totem etc. https://www.commonground.org.au/article/connection-to-animals-and-country (https://www.commonground.org.au/article/connection-to-animals-and-country)

Shy or Silence or respectful lack of Eye Contact or Yes. Titles are very meaningful as well. Do Indigenous communities even use nicknames that belittle/banter in that Aussie way, I have no idea?

https://www.health.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0021/151923/communicating.pdf (https://www.health.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0021/151923/communicating.pdf)

Héritier Lumumba mentioned being called a chimp, monkey etc. A lot of history behind this. Andrew Symonds… These are parallels.

Where does all this fit in with strict definitions of the law? We need to find a decision somehow. Frankly the legal system in Australia is a white construct adopted from the UK? Regardless of the Federal Court outcome I do back these families, I don’t think it’s the right thing to do, to turn your back on people when they’re saying hey I’m in a whole lot of pain here and that may not fit into section C, point 2 of Act whatever you want to be.

Years ago, the Herald Sun cartoon of Serena Williams was a big talking point. The Outer Sanctum episode in response was an incredibly nuanced and well argued justification as to why it is seen as racist. Look it up, it’s great. Emma Race, Hawthorn number one ticket holder? is on that podcast and her husband hosts the same cartoonist every year on grand final week on his footy show.

There can be many things to consider, in isolation or in smaller amounts, maybe not a big deal. Add in oth
er really serious allegations with common themes…

Clarkson has a sound knowledge of Indigenous culture. He knew a fair bit of these examples but not all, he hired a specialist to interpret/educate but excluded him.


@dogday, I know you prefer a narrower viewpoint.

Appreciate the response .

Without being picky I knew Andrew quite well on and off field . I never once heard of him being referred to anything like that at all unless it has been documented somewhere .
He was called 'monkey' by the Indian crowds , if that is what you are referring too .

 

[Rhayader]

Appreciate the response .

Without being picky I knew Andrew quite well on and off field . I never once heard of him being referred to anything like that at all unless it has been documented somewhere .
He was called 'monkey' by the Indian crowds , if that is what you are referring too .

I believe he was (allegedly) called a monkey by Harbhajan Singh during a game.

 

[TONYC3163]

Appreciate the response .

Without being picky I knew Andrew quite well on and off field . I never once heard of him being referred to anything like that at all unless it has been documented somewhere .
He was called 'monkey' by the Indian crowds , if that is what you are referring too .

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/former-australian-cricket-star-andrew-symonds-opens-up-on-monkeygate-scandal-a-decade-on/news-story/bc4e4adcb476e53ea00ea03b56580fdf?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtsy1BhD7ARIsAHOi4xbygYwMf3PyIU9iqOjAcnvYzuefoEIMZ_-q1mmhsVhid0GKKwaA0A4aAsDVEALw_wcB

 

[Flag08]

100% it is.

The report incorrectly refers to Humphrey as being a black bear

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I believe he was (allegedly) called a monkey by Harbhajan Singh during a game.

Which snowballed to Indian crowds doing monkey chants - you’ll still find Indian cricket trolls claiming it wasn’t racist.

 

[The hands of stone]

I believe he was (allegedly) called a monkey by Harbhajan Singh during a game.

That is correct . The Indians claim it was in reference to a religious festival while Harbhajan said it was a sledge in Hindi rather than calling him Monkey.

 

[kazzooka]

Exactly and the availability of trusted channels and general cultural awareness is 100% the responsibility fo the employer.

I think what this boils down to is frustration from Rioli and co about an unwillingness from the club and key personnel to reflect on the environment they were providing for our indigenous players - were we allowing them to be themselves, acknowledging their unique experiences and perspectives and valuing them as individuals or assuming all was ok because on the surface people seemed happy.

There is no way rioli goes down this path for $$$ only - much easier wyas for him to make a buck. He is doing it for the other players and I think in some ways to make the club understand and do better.

I'm all for finding out the truth. My assumption is the motivations from clarkson and co were not racist but the cultural insensitivity and not understanding the power imbalance from the players perspective needs to be understood. The player who allegedly felt he needed the clubs permission for his partner and child to visit from interstate? Asked for permission and it was allegedly refused? Far out. Not racist but appalling situation.

There's also I think an element of leadership from him in this on behalf of the others. Reading the report, his story is one of a handful of little things ranging from an innocent nickname, a Boomer joke to a nasty slur (used by another player to another player that he heard 2nd hand).

But reading the allegations by miller-lewis and Peterson I think Cyril feels he needs to add his part to look after them.

As for the money side, Cyril has so many easier options to make a buck. He may be motivated to ensure the others are compensated but for him himself.

If you follow him on social media his lifestyle is so far away from wanting to enrich himself. And if he did he could make a killing playing a few games here or there, sportsman's nights, a book, tv interviews. There would be jobs in football for him too.

 

[brad sue well]

Appreciate the response .

Without being picky I knew Andrew quite well on and off field . I never once heard of him being referred to anything like that at all unless it has been documented somewhere .
He was called 'monkey' by the Indian crowds , if that is what you are referring too .

Oh cool, thanks for reading. Yes, that cricket example you mentioned is what I was referring to. Such an awesome player.

 

[kazzooka]

There's no doubt this is what was intended. This is the reason, amongst even more deplorable things that happened at the club, the Cyril felt aggrieved and felt the need to include this in his application.


Hawthorn supporters here claiming it was just a harmless nickname, are continuing the cycle of systemic racism, and why it's hard for things to change in this country when it comes to Aboriginals.

No, you are saying that "there's no doubt this is what's intended" really an obscure slur that we don't know.

Everyone posting here would know the slur Birchall used and others. "Bear" never heard it before.

Humphrey B Bear nickname. Pretty much every club has had one in each era. Vafa club had a Humphrey just like we had a redhead called bluey and a horse and an ox.

It may be that bear is a slur used. But specifically Humphrey B bear? That's a well known nickname along with Marcel Marceau for quiet guys. I'm sure these days there's been a few "silent bobs" as well.

 

[brad sue well]

The report incorrectly refers to Humphrey as being a black bear

I am not one to work out right and wrong on black/brown or if Wanganeen (probably wasn't) was at the meeting... as someone said that I didn't know, Claims will tighten before court. These mistakes shouldn't happen but did. I haven't read the Statement yet, I want quiet time to do so.

The coaches have publicly contradicted each other, this wasn't a junior lawyer getting dates/names mixed up/not being thorough, the actual sources. I am not going to say where.

 

[brad sue well]

There's also I think an element of leadership from him in this on behalf of the others. Reading the report, his story is one of a handful of little things ranging from an innocent nickname, a Boomer joke to a nasty slur (used by another player to another player that he heard 2nd hand).

But reading the allegations by miller-lewis and Peterson I think Cyril feels he needs to add his part to look after them.

As for the money side, Cyril has so many easier options to make a buck. He may be motivated to ensure the others are compensated but for him himself.

If you follow him on social media his lifestyle is so far away from wanting to enrich himself. And if he did he could make a killing playing a few games here or there, sportsman's nights, a book, tv interviews. There would be jobs in football for him too.

Which grand final did Cyril start in the centre square? Massive statement of intent from Clarkson following injury cloud... Cyril as the lead name on the Statement is that, but this is real life.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Getting flashbacks to living in QLD and the footy stadium in Toowoomba honoured a former player and was called the ‘E S ‘N-word’ Brown’ stand - with the slur printed on the stand. Bizarrely (well, not that bizarrely for regional QLD) they only saw fit to finally change it around 2008 when the stadium got revamped.