Society/Culture Horse racing is cruel

[Demontim275]

I was unaware that you were the adjudicator of what people can say and think.

There is shit here that you have no idea about, but, as usual, you want to pick a fight.

F*** off, I'm not interested.

You don’t need to know that trolling someone’s mental health is ****ing cowardly and pathetic.

especially anonymously over the internet

do not pretend to care about male suicide then use a mans mental health status as an insult.

you threw a tantrum because someone bagged your knee injury. This is about 100 times worse.

 

[Lethality]

I don't answer selectively answered quotes.

Lift Hodgepodge.
Lift.

It's pretty simple, you have a sport that relies on the killing of horses by the thousands each year, in Australia alone. Seems immoral.

 

[RobbieK]

It’s about 10% of gambling losses in Australia. It’s not the one to go after mate.

Do you remember writing this earlier?

That argument is the definition of relative privation fallacy.

Horse and dog racing combines the exploitation of animals with the exploitation of humans. Maybe there are other sectors of the gambling industry cause more problems for people, and we definitely need to address that, but that doesn't mean we should just accept the racing industry as something legitimate or desirable.

 

[Demontim275]

Do you remember writing this earlier?



Horse and dog racing combines the exploitation of animals with the exploitation of humans. Maybe there are other sectors of the gambling industry cause more problems for people, and we definitely need to address that, but that doesn't mean we should just accept the racing industry as something legitimate or desirable.

That’s not relative privation...

it’s saying if your focus is to deal with problem gambling, you would start with the biggest issue area. That’s why I said this ain’t the hill you want to die on for this cause.

if you’re serious about preventing problem gambling you’d be taking action against pokies first. You’re using gambling issues as a way to leverage against horse racing with other reasons. Not because you want to prevent gambling issues

 

[Craven Morehead]

You don’t need to know that trolling someone’s mental health is ******* cowardly and pathetic.

especially anonymously over the internet

do not pretend to care about male suicide then use a mans mental health status as an insult.

you threw a tantrum because someone bagged your knee injury. This is about 100 times worse.

This is your first stage of wind-up.
I get that.
Continue to be outraged and ignore the obvious please.
It's what you do best.

It's pretty simple, you have a sport that relies on the killing of horses by the thousands each year, in Australia alone. Seems immoral.

Aaaaand, the agricultural industry, and veganism as an aside, relies on the slaughter of literally BILLIONS of deaths of organisms across the planet daily.

But that's ok.

3,000 aussies top themselves and not one single f*** is given by you.

Oh, but slaughter a horse....whether it be a racehorse, a stock horse or little Jane's pony for dog food and your head explodes.

Let's let them all just die in a paddock.

That'll work....because you have no other option.


oh hang on...

what do the f***ing dogs and cats eat then?

Oh shit!

 

[skilts]

If they ever get organised and start with that shit, we'll just shoot the lot of them and race camels instead.

We have the technology to do all sorts of cruel things to animals if we truly wanted to. Even the so called "cruelty" involved in the racing game is relatively minor compared to the cruelty nature inflicts on such a species in the wild. Certainly far less cruel than the way indigenous peoples treated them on other continents over the last twenty thousand years.
We now offer them protection, we pamper them, keep them warm over winter, and in most cases feed them the equine equivalent of lobster with truffle and caviar.
If they could talk I'm sure they say "hell yeah give me that whip once a month anytime over being constantly stalked and slowly eaten alive by those bastard cruel carnivores"
We have had a symbiotic relationship with the horse for thousands of years. If we could ride cheetah's without getting scratched we would. You could argue horse numbers have exploded due to humans. You could also argue that as humans have evolved socially we have also markedly improved their lot in life. They were once a convenience to us, but now treated as the king of land animals by the great majority. In most countries including Australia they are treated better than many humans.

Even if we simply leave them alone we can be labelled cruel, because they eat themselves out of house and home very fast then move on. They aren't native to Australia for very good reason. They can consider themselves lucky that after the advent of the internal combustion engine they are still useful for at least something, other than one of natures rich sources of protein for other animals.
They can be bad tempered buggers as well...but we tolerate that in general. They can be extremely high maintenance. We know they are one of the smarter animals going around and are respected.

So when you see the whip come out in the last furlong, try to understand that those particular select few horses have been brought into the world at our discretion, spoilt, pampered, bathed, fed caviar, and allowed to do what they do best, and are in fact LUCKY.....and if they could speak would probably say....

"... ouch, thanks for the reminder and bit of a hurry up. Now you can bath me and give me my lobster and caviar "

Afterall we COULD shove a cruise missile up their arse and light them up...but we don't. How about some perspective is all I say.

I can't fathom why you attached this pile of irrelevance to my post.

 

[Bollox]

I can't fathom why you attached this pile of irrelevance to my post.

You cant fathom it ?
You thought your own comment was somehow more relevant in a thread titled "horse racing is cruel" ?

Too detailed ? with logic and reasoning attached ?
No. I dont think horse racing is cruel in the slightest.
Is that dumbing it down enough to be relevant ?

 

[Fat Yak]

The spot light should be on those who buy ex race horses (like those who buy a puppy a lose interest) and the abattoirs.

 

[Bollox]

So, as mentioned before, when will the ABC do a ground breaking expose on how dogs and cats are put down by the thousands each month.
Oh the humanity, the disgusting cruelty. Who is responsible for it ?

You mean to say that more cats and dogs are bred than are wanted/needed ?...and they get sent to fluffy animal pet heaven with scant regard for inner city pet lover emotions ?

How the hell it even became a story to say "Lots of horses become pet food" is anyone's guess. Maybe the naive and born yesterday could enlighten us.

 

[Lethality]

Aaaaand, the agricultural industry, and veganism as an aside, relies on the slaughter of literally BILLIONS of deaths of organisms across the planet daily.

But that's ok.

3,000 aussies top themselves and not one single f*** is given by you.

Oh, but slaughter a horse....whether it be a racehorse, a stock horse or little Jane's pony for dog food and your head explodes.

Let's let them all just die in a paddock.

That'll work....because you have no other option.


oh hang on...

what do the f***ing dogs and cats eat then?

Oh shit!

No it doesn't.

Suicide is recognised as a problem, you're deflecting.

We don't need the racing industry to feed our pets.

 

[Craven Morehead]

No it doesn't.

Suicide is recognised as a problem, you're deflecting.

We don't need the racing industry to feed our pets.

If It is actually recognised as a problem, why do the numbers keep on increasing?

Why do we only see you here during the off-season?

What are you going to feed the 357 cats in your house?

You get a gold star if you say that you are too busy protesting at the Spring Carnival.

Which everyone knows you would never do.

lol.

 

[Demons09]

To actually think a few protesters and some random knobs on BF are going to stop horse racing lol.

 

[Lethality]

If It is actually recognised as a problem, why do the numbers keep on increasing?

Because some problems get worse. I also think we don't value men, or focus on their problems.

Btw, one of the triggers for suicide is gambling, which brings us back to horse racing.

To actually think a few protesters and some random knobs on BF are going to stop horse racing lol.

Crowds have been decreasing for the last 5 years to 25 year lows, TV ratings also down. Celebrities are pulling out, including big names like Taylor Swift, Megan Gale. Hopefully this continues, awareness doesn't usually just go away.

 

[Lebbo73]

Yes it does. They usually die from a gunshot wound on the track because they were injured in the act of being raced, or from a bolt in an abattoir because they are surplus to needs. Either way it's the sport that is killing these animals.

A gunshot wound on the track hey? NFI

 

[Lebbo73]

This is your first stage of wind-up.
I get that.
Continue to be outraged and ignore the obvious please.
It's what you do best.



Aaaaand, the agricultural industry, and veganism as an aside, relies on the slaughter of literally BILLIONS of deaths of organisms across the planet daily.

But that's ok.

3,000 aussies top themselves and not one single f*** is given by you.

Oh, but slaughter a horse....whether it be a racehorse, a stock horse or little Jane's pony for dog food and your head explodes.

Let's let them all just die in a paddock.

That'll work....because you have no other option.


oh hang on...

what do the f***ing dogs and cats eat then?

Oh shit!

There’s plenty of soybeans for them to enjoy!

 

[Demons09]

Because some problems get worse. I also think we don't value men, or focus on their problems.

Btw, one of the triggers for suicide is gambling, which brings us back to horse racing.



Crowds have been decreasing for the last 5 years to 25 year lows, TV ratings also down. Celebrities are pulling out, including big names like Taylor Swift, Megan Gale. Hopefully this continues, awareness doesn't usually just go away.

Lol keep dreaming it will never happen in your life time but keep the outrage going.

 

[Lethality]

A gunshot wound on the track hey? NFI

Elaborate

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

It’s 0.2%.

Feel free to link some evidence on the contrary.

Do you honestly believe that only 30 racehorses get sent to the knackers each year?

ex-racehorses (thoroughbred) used for equestrian and ex-racehorses (standardbred) usually make pretty good hacks because they're not as highly strung as the thoroughbreds, there's only limited spots in those areas, what do you think happens to the rest of them. Remember they live for 20 to 30 years.

If there's a combined total between thoroughbred and standardbred of 30,000 being foaled each year, I guess over 20 years, there's 600,000 bred. Where do you honestly think they all go?

 

[Lebbo73]

Elaborate

Do you really think that they pull a shotty out and blow their brains out?

 

[Lethality]

Do you really think that they pull a shotty out and blow their brains out?

They're commonly shot and killed after sustaining certain racing injuries. Are you going to quibble over whether it's a shotgun, which I didn't even mention ?

 

[Lebbo73]

Yes it does. They usually die from a gunshot wound on the track because they were injured in the act of being raced, or from a bolt in an abattoir because they are surplus to needs. Either way it's the sport that is killing these animals.

They're commonly shot and killed after sustaining certain racing injuries. Are you going to quibble over whether it's a shotgun, which I didn't even mention ?

My mistake, it was a gun of some description ffs. Not a vet with a syringe.

 

[Lethality]

My mistake, it was a gun of some description ffs. Not a vet with a syringe.

Looks like the green curtain is doing its job, allowing people to lie to themselves.

 

[Lebbo73]

Looks like the green curtain is doing its job, allowing people to lie to themselves.

Footage from the 80’s or 90’s. You’re a muppet of the highest order.

 

[Lethality]

Footage from the 80’s or 90’s. You’re a muppet of the highest order.

Its from 2014.

 

[Lebbo73]

Its from 2014.

'Shooting a horse is probably the most humane and quick way that you could put a horse down.' ... Horses are at risk of injury throughout their lives, regardless of the type of equestrian activity they participate in.' The authority also confirmed that the fatality rate for racehorses currently stands at 0.2 per cent.Sep 24, 2014

Even worse that you grabbed overseas footage from the Daily Mail. You really are swimming uphill here through a river of sewerage.