Hostage Situation - Martin Place, Sydney

[MIKE85]

I think you're underselling the morbid curiosity.

Yeah true, that will definitely be a part of it, for some people, not all.

 

[Keys]

Reckon it will go off like a firecracker

 

[Ralph Lorenz]

will it get any business?

Unfortunately, it might become another Sydney tourist attraction.

 

[Ashton Agar]

will it get any business?

If I lived in Sydney I'd definitely be going.

 

[Balony_pony16]

I would assume it will be busier than ever! So many people will want to go, not only to try and show their respects, but also to try and prove that this sort of stuff won't stop Australians going about their normal lives and that we won't live in fear.

That's how I see it anyway, I reckon it will be packed for a while.

no doubt people will use this as a motivation to going and im sure the media will report it as such in the predictable feel good story... but it really means nothing as I doubt any terrorist would be tracking the outcome of the cafe...more thoughts will be on other targets with "Australians not living in fear" meaning stuff all

 

[brucetiki]

The cafe was pretty popular before the siege. It'll be even more popular now (for better or worse).

Full credit to the Lindt guys for getting it back open so quickly.

 

[eddiebankbalance]

Unfortunately, it might become another Sydney tourist attraction.

All new hipster concept names for the coffee and hot chocolate?

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Wait for all the selfies from the "hostage cafe'

 

[JUBJUB]

Lindt Café re-opening for first time since the Siege tomorrow morning.

So are Sunrise doing a live OB from there ?
It would be the type of stunt they'd do

 

[Greater Gattsby]

So are Sunrise doing a live OB from there ?
It would be the type of stunt they'd do

The media are sick dogs. GAGF

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Monis was 6'2 as well, a fairly intimidating statue to most people and probably why many would decide not to have a physical tussle with him.

I'm 6'3 and even I doubt I would try anything. You just don't know how you would react.

6'3" master race bro

 

[little graham]

I! So many people will want to go, not only to try and show their respects, but also to try and prove that this sort of stuff won't stop Australians going about their normal lives and that we won't live in fear.
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The Martin Place siege was about “criminals doing terrible things” and is not an issue for Islam or Australia’s Muslim community, the federal police commissioner, Andrew Colvin

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425737969

Not terrorism.

 

[Greater Gattsby]

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425737969

Not terrorism.

Give me a break.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425737969

Not terrorism.

I never thought it was.

 

[Ashton Agar]

Not ISIS, but it's still terrorism.

 

[FRUMPY]

Not ISIS, but it's still terrorism.

its not a terrorist group doing it, it was just one nutter. He may have been acting under the guise of some terrorist group but actually has no affiliation with them.

It would be like someone robbing a bank in a carlton guernsey buy is not affiliated with them. Its just one nutter, not the carlton football club (plus we know we get ours in paper bags)

 

[Greater Gattsby]

its not a terrorist group doing it, it was just one nutter. He may have been acting under the guise of some terrorist group but actually has no affiliation with them.

It would be like someone robbing a bank in a carlton guernsey buy is not affiliated with them. Its just one nutter, not the carlton football club (plus we know we get ours in paper bags)

He called himself a terrorist.

 

[Rustin Cohle]

There is no set scale with terrorism at one end and insanity at the other. Terrorism, by definition, is simply using violence or the threat of violence to achieve political, religious or other ideological objectives. It doesn't really matter if he was associated with a group or not. His motives, regardless of whether they were completely sound, are the key in determining if he was a terrorist.

 

[kfc1]

Delete

 

[PowerbaII]

its not a terrorist group doing it, it was just one nutter. He may have been acting under the guise of some terrorist group but actually has no affiliation with them.

It would be like someone robbing a bank in a carlton guernsey buy is not affiliated with them. Its just one nutter, not the carlton football club (plus we know we get ours in paper bags)

Lol it doesn't matter if it was just one nutter who was responsible (who also had a sizable following of over 14,000 on twitter where he preached hatred) for it to be considered a terrorist act or not. He held people hostage in a cafe and killed one while trying to make a statement. It was terrorism.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Lol it doesn't matter if it was just one nutter who was responsible (who also had a sizable following of over 14,000 on twitter where he preached hatred) for it to be considered a terrorist act or not. He held people hostage in a cafe and killed one while trying to make a statement. It was terrorism.

While he has terrorised people, imo, he didn't set out that day to commit an act of terrorism in behalf of some noble or misdirected cause or some known terrorist group.

Imo, he's set out that day to inflict damage against those who he believes in his eyes have wronged him.

Events has transpired on the way to his original destination that have seen him seek refuge in the cafe and from there we've seen how events unfolded.

Once he's realised his predicament, he's thought, 'stuff it, ISIS are the flavour of the month, I'll jump on their bandwagon and go out screaming.'

With him dead, we'll never know, not that he could've been trusted in telling the truth anyway. The Government can basically set the agenda in any findings now. He will be labelled a terrorist because it suits in the current climate.

I'm the last person to defend a terrorist but I honestly don't think he was one. He was an unhinged deadshit and it was all about him.

No great loss. (him I mean, not the hostages)

 

[PowerbaII]

While he has terrorised people, imo, he didn't set out that day to commit an act of terrorism in behalf of some noble or misdirected cause or some known terrorist group.

Imo, he's set out that day to inflict damage against those who he believes in his eyes have wronged him.

Events has transpired on the way to his original destination that have seen him seek refuge in the cafe and from there we've seen how events unfolded.

Once he's realised his predicament, he's thought, 'stuff it, ISIS are the flavour of the month, I'll jump on their bandwagon and go out screaming.'

With him dead, we'll never know, not that he could've been trusted in telling the truth anyway. The Government can basically set the agenda in any findings now. He will be labelled a terrorist because it suits in the current climate.

I'm the last person to defend a terrorist but I honestly don't think he was one. He was an unhinged deadshit and it was all about him.

No great loss. (him I mean, not the hostages)

If you terrorise people in the manor that he did for a cause such as his, then yes, you're a terrorist. His intentions were pretty clear. He wanted to hold up people at gun point and make certain requests like talking to the pm and have it broadcast on television where he would have spoken about how this is a war on Australia etc. He followed many Muslim terrorists and groups on Twitter, and had a large amount follow him back.

If you were really the last person to defend a terrorist then you sure as hell wouldn't be defending this piece of shit.

 

[Greater Gattsby]

Someone can be a terrorist without being f***ing aligned to a terrorist group.

To those who insist he isn't a terrorist, use some common sense....

 

[Ashton Agar]

While he has terrorised people, imo, he didn't set out that day to commit an act of terrorism in behalf of some noble or misdirected cause or some known terrorist group.

Imo, he's set out that day to inflict damage against those who he believes in his eyes have wronged him.

Events has transpired on the way to his original destination that have seen him seek refuge in the cafe and from there we've seen how events unfolded.

Once he's realised his predicament, he's thought, 'stuff it, ISIS are the flavour of the month, I'll jump on their bandwagon and go out screaming.'

With him dead, we'll never know, not that he could've been trusted in telling the truth anyway. The Government can basically set the agenda in any findings now. He will be labelled a terrorist because it suits in the current climate.

I'm the last person to defend a terrorist but I honestly don't think he was one. He was an unhinged deadshit and it was all about him.

No great loss. (him I mean, not the hostages)

Whilst ISIS/Islamic State would not have ever known he existed until the start of the Siege, let's not forget he made Tori Johnson ring 000 and say "Australia is under attack from Islamic State" at 9:44am, the start of the Siege. He didn't just jump on IS after a while because he figured he was stuffed. It was a terrorist attack, despite it being a false flag.

 

[Will.B.Worth.Da.Waite]

Wow. There's some ****ing stupidass people out there - it was a terrorist act, stop being a ********