Streaming House of the Dragon (Game of Thrones prequel)

[GreyCrow]

That is a pretty climatic point though. Currently they have no way to combat Vhagar without risking Rhaneyra. The future of the war effectively comes down to an arms race.

I think it's a very critical and interesting point.

Do people in this thread have any idea who the new Dragon Riders may be?

Hope its not the old guy at Harrenhall

 

[Jazny]

A bit of a boring episode. They can't all be epic. Talky, talky. Aegon toast in a coma. Let the people eat dragon!

Nice twist at the last minute to find scores of family members that could ride dragons.

Action is only exciting if there is something to care about imo. That's why I don't like Marvel movies and basically every action movie ever made. The problem is you have to wait a week between episodes. So if there is an episode like the last one which does a lot of setting up, then you have to wait a week before anything pays off it feels annoying.

My biggest problem with that episode was the first aid given to the king How long did it take them to get him back to Kingslanding before they even administer the most basic first aid? Like weeks?

 

[Neese]

Medieval first aid was keeping them alive until they die from injuries

 

[Frank Bunn]

Do people in this thread have any idea who the new Dragon Riders may be?

There was the guy in the pub/brothel who claimed to be King Viserys' bastard half-brother.

 

[Keys]

There was the guy in the pub/brothel who claimed to be King Viserys' bastard half-brother.

Good point

He’s popped up a couple of times, including the last episode, with no obvious reason to why he’s important enough to spend several minutes of screen time on

Him being a potential dragon rider makes sense

 

[GreyCrow]

Good point

He’s popped up a couple of times, including the last episode, with no obvious reason to why he’s important enough to spend several minutes of screen time on

Him being a potential dragon rider makes sense

Reminds me of the blacksmith in GoT

 

[Jazny]

Medieval first aid was keeping them alive until they die from injuries

They didn't remove his armor or set his bones the whole time he was in that box. I guess I don't know for sure how far away they were from Kingslanding. But if it was more than a day or two's travel then I think there is no way they would wait for him to be in Kingslanding to do that stuff.

But its a TV show and looks cooler if he is getting that stuff done in Kingslanding in front of his mother rather than just arriving all bandaged up already so I can forgive it.

Good point

He’s popped up a couple of times, including the last episode, with no obvious reason to why he’s important enough to spend several minutes of screen time on

Him being a potential dragon rider makes sense

Did he pop up in the latest episode? I don't remember him being in it, only the armorer guy.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

They didn't remove his armor or set his bones the whole time he was in that box. I guess I don't know for sure how far away they were from Kingslanding. But if it was more than a day or two's travel then I think there is no way they would wait for him to be in Kingslanding to do that stuff.

But its a TV show and looks cooler if he is getting that stuff done in Kingslanding in front of his mother rather than just arriving all bandaged up already so I can forgive it.

Did he pop up in the latest episode? I don't remember him being in it, only the armorer guy.

It would have been a day or more at least. But this is obviously a medieval fantasy land with very poor medical procedure. The Grand Maester ends up being the one to tend to him, dragon fire burns were probably out of most Maesters area of expertise, effectively they had to rush him to the Specialist ER. Some random soldier or a maester in the field wouldn't want to risk being responsible for killing the king.

 

[Keys]

Did he pop up in the latest episode? I don't remember him being in it, only the armorer guy.

I thought they were the same person

But i could easily have got that wrong

 

[Jazny]

It would have been a day or more at least. But this is obviously a medieval fantasy land with very poor medical procedure. The Grand Maester ends up being the one to tend to him, dragon fire burns were probably out of most Maesters area of expertise, effectively they had to rush him to the Specialist ER. Some random soldier or a maester in the field wouldn't want to risk being responsible for killing the king.

Surely they have someone who can set a bone though and bandage some of the wounds that were more accessible. He would have bled out long before he got there even if it was a day away I think. They just threw him in a box and closed the lid

I mean its a TV show so they do things for the audience and dramatic effect, like the box was supposed to make you think he was dead for example. But it did annoy me slightly.

I thought they were the same person

But i could easily have got that wrong

No the armorer guy is more of a chad strong looking dude. I dont think its him.

 

[Vader]

They didn't remove his armor or set his bones the whole time he was in that box. I guess I don't know for sure how far away they were from Kingslanding. But if it was more than a day or two's travel then I think there is no way they would wait for him to be in Kingslanding to do that stuff.

According to this map, it's about 300 miles from Rook's Rest (where the battle took place) to King's Landing:

Source: https://atlasoficeandfireblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/18/geographic-map-13-the-crownlands/

As for how long that would take... A medieval army typically marched around 20 miles per day, making the travel time around 2 weeks.

How long in Game of Thrones time?

Early GoT
Early GoT had realistic travel times, with travel between King's Landing and Winterfell taking several months in S1. So... 2 weeks.

Late GoT
Late GoT, under the incompetence of the two DBs, saw time massively compressed. Either that, or they marched their armies through wormhole-like travel portals off-screen. With the benefit of time compression, the trip from King's Landing to Winterfell was (seemingly) reduced to around a week. Under these conditions the trip from Rook's Rest to Kings Landing would be comfortably done in an afternoon.

 

[GreyCrow]

The family trying to leave in the last episode my thought was does he have Targaryan hair

Thats who I am thinking of

 

[SM]

According to this map, it's about 300 miles from Rook's Rest (where the battle took place) to King's Landing:

Source: https://atlasoficeandfireblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/18/geographic-map-13-the-crownlands/

As for how long that would take... A medieval army typically marched around 20 miles per day, making the travel time around 2 weeks.

How long in Game of Thrones time?

Early GoT
Early GoT had realistic travel times, with travel between King's Landing and Winterfell taking several months in S1. So... 2 weeks.

Late GoT
Late GoT, under the incompetence of the two DBs, saw time massively compressed. Either that, or they marched their armies through wormhole-like travel portals off-screen. With the benefit of time compression, the trip from King's Landing to Winterfell was (seemingly) reduced to around a week. Under these conditions the trip from Rook's Rest to Kings Landing would be comfortably done in an afternoon.

As a Hull City supporter I'm so happy that we still exist in Westeros. Wonder if we're more successful there.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

I thought they were the same person

But i could easily have got that wrong

Definitely not the same person. Hugh is the armorer and is much more subdued and family focused than the boasting lord of the tavern. Whose name was Ulf i think.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

As a Hull City supporter I'm so happy that we still exist in Westeros. Wonder if we're more successful there.

Corlys Velaryons bastard Addam is from Hull.

 

[SM]

Corlys Velaryons bastard Addam is from Hull.

Any good as a striker? We're after one.

 

[Kirby]

My guess about the dragon riders are:

The two bastard sons of Corlys (certainly the one with the dreds anyway)
The bragging guy in the brothel
The blacksmith fellow with the sick daughter

Also, the younger of the two daughters of Daemond who hasn't been paired with a dragon yet.

 

[GreyCrow]

The blacksmith will be called in to make armour for the new dragons and will bond

 

[MC Bad Genius]

I can understand if some people found that episode a little slow, but there were some important things revealed:

1. Looking for bastards to be dragon riders. The only issue is that once it's known, the Greens will surely start as well and the most prominent one is in Kings Landing (although it seems it's actually two separate people, not one like I had originally thought).
2. Daemon confirmed that he has no intention of supporting Rhaenyra's ascension to the throne, but is (poorly) raising an army for himself.
3. That Corlys will have to legitimise his bastard to take on the mantle of being the heir of Driftmark. That feels significant.

And obviously, the fact that Aemond has moved in as the caretaker coach is big news too!

For me, where HOTD falls down compared to GOT is the richness of the character interactions. There are a lot of scenes where there is barely any chemistry (not necessarily sexually) between the two actors. It just seems like "I'll read my line, then you read your line".

 

[Munich]

That is a pretty climatic point though. Currently they have no way to combat Vhagar without risking Rhaneyra. The future of the war effectively comes down to an arms race.

I think it's a very critical and interesting point.

Do people in this thread have any idea who the new Dragon Riders may be?

Yes. Hugh Hammer obv as he's been shown in multiple eps now.

And Corlys' son as he has now been introduced.

Perhaps the half brother of Vis and Daemon also.

 

[Munich]

I thought they were the same person

But i could easily have got that wrong

He wasn't in the latest ep.

That was Hugh Hammer.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

I can understand if some people found that episode a little slow, but there were some important things revealed:

1. Looking for bastards to be dragon riders. The only issue is that once it's known, the Greens will surely start as well and the most prominent one is in Kings Landing (although it seems it's actually two separate people, not one like I had originally thought).
2. Daemon confirmed that he has no intention of supporting Rhaenyra's ascension to the throne, but is (poorly) raising an army for himself.
3. That Corlys will have to legitimise his bastard to take on the mantle of being the heir of Driftmark. That feels significant.

And obviously, the fact that Aemond has moved in as the caretaker coach is big news too!

For me, where HOTD falls down compared to GOT is the richness of the character interactions. There are a lot of scenes where there is barely any chemistry (not necessarily sexually) between the two actors. It just seems like "I'll read my line, then you read your line".

No current intention. I think the whole point of that side plot is him coming to grips with who he is as a person and if he can put his ego aside. His ego (through his dreams) is telling him he's supposed to be king and all these things. Will he break out of that or will he descend further into madness?

 

[MC Bad Genius]

No current intention. I think the whole point of that side plot is him coming to grips with who he is as a person and if he can put his ego aside. His ego (through his dreams) is telling him he's supposed to be king and all these things. Will he break out of that or will he descend further into madness?

Well madness certainly seems to be a Targaeryan quality haha.

 

[Frank Bunn]

According to this map, it's about 300 miles from Rook's Rest (where the battle took place) to King's Landing:

Source: https://atlasoficeandfireblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/18/geographic-map-13-the-crownlands/

As for how long that would take... A medieval army typically marched around 20 miles per day, making the travel time around 2 weeks.

How long in Game of Thrones time?

Early GoT
Early GoT had realistic travel times, with travel between King's Landing and Winterfell taking several months in S1. So... 2 weeks.

Late GoT
Late GoT, under the incompetence of the two DBs, saw time massively compressed. Either that, or they marched their armies through wormhole-like travel portals off-screen. With the benefit of time compression, the trip from King's Landing to Winterfell was (seemingly) reduced to around a week. Under these conditions the trip from Rook's Rest to Kings Landing would be comfortably done in an afternoon.

I'm imagining a dragon Medivac service.

 

[peternorth]

I agree to some extent, there have been a handful of these kind of episodes that have been better than this one.

The ending of them talking about new riders for the dragons was probably one the weakest ending to episode so far in the series.

The camera panning to the shelves of scrolls foreshadowing some research work coming up

There was the guy in the pub/brothel who claimed to be King Viserys' bastard half-brother.

Im thinking him.

Reminds me of the blacksmith in GoT

He's still rowing