Roast How diabolical is our midfield?

[ABAB]

It wasn’t lack of effort yesterday. It was method around the ball. Over commit attacking the ball carrier on that ground and you’re dead. That’s what happens when you play venues once every 25 years.

Wasn't a lack of effort yesterday? Did you not see the jogging and not manning up on their opposition player in the 1st half all over the ground and that includes the midfield.

 

[Trigger13]

Wasn't a lack of effort yesterday? Did you not see the jogging and not manning up on their opposition player in the 1st half all over the ground and that includes the midfield.

Spoke to an assistant today. The data indicates the effort was there. When the method is all wrong, you get caught out of position, with no hope of influencing the play. It is at that point when the team looks like they aren’t working hard. Also, once the oppo gets a run on like that, it’s very hard to rectify it. Confidence drops, players lose their ability to stick to a plan and so on and so on. Footy is played in the head. And we have many inexperienced heads. Patience is key.

 

[ABAB]

Spoke to an assistant today. The data indicates the effort was there. When the method is all wrong, you get caught out of position, with no hope of influencing the play. It is at that point when the team looks like they aren’t working hard. Also, once the oppo gets a run on like that, it’s very hard to rectify it. Confidence drops, players lose their ability to stick to a plan and so on and so on. Footy in the head. And we have many inexperienced heads. Patience is key.

You didn't see a lot of jogging in the 1st half?

 

[GreyCrow]

Spoke to an assistant today. The data indicates the effort was there. When the method is all wrong, you get caught out of position, with no hope of influencing the play. It is at that point when the team looks like they aren’t working hard. Also, once the oppo gets a run on like that, it’s very hard to rectify it. Confidence drops, players lose their ability to stick to a plan and so on and so on. Footy is played in the head. And we have many inexperienced heads. Patience is key.

So Nobodys Fault is the club mantra for the week

Rightio

 

[Trigger13]

You didn't see a lot of jogging in the 1st half?

I saw a lot of players caught out of position, left in no man’s land, down on confidence after being completely blown away by a team who played the conditions a lot better than we did. A lot like how visiting teams look at AO. Maybe I’m too kind though. And if you are right and we didn’t try hard enough, then that’s an indictment on the club as a whole.

 

[Trigger13]

So Nobodys Fault is the club mantra for the week

Rightio

The point is that everyone is at fault. The players for not executing the plan. The coaches for not getting them in a position to execute the plan. We are the second youngest team in the comp. We have to accept games like this.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

The point is that everyone is at fault. The players for not executing the plan. The coaches for not getting them in a position to execute the plan. We are the second youngest team in the comp. We have to accept games like this.

Do you think Micheal Van Der Nerven accepted mediocrity?

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

In Vietnam for the next few weeks, didn’t watch the game but I can guess how it went. Seen that story too many times before

Was there a month ago. Amazing place, beautiful people. Loved the chaos of Ho Chi Minh and the slowness of Hoi Ann.

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

I'd like to see Hinge given a go in the middle

This is such an obvious move to try given our midfield is clearly the main deficiency. Ask him to recommend this to Nicks.

 

[MarcusP2]

You didn't see a lot of jogging in the 1st half?

I was more of the opinion that there's no point sprinting after someone 15m ahead of you because you were shockingly out of position from horrendous turnovers or uncontested clearances.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I was more of the opinion that there's no point sprinting after someone 15m ahead of you because you were shockingly out of position from horrendous turnovers or uncontested clearances.

It's funny because it makes no logical sense to expend energy trying to catch an opponent who already got away. If you don't do it though, everybody gives you shit for being lazy/soft.

 

[WeeBlake]

Spoke to an assistant today. The data indicates the effort was there. When the method is all wrong, you get caught out of position, with no hope of influencing the play. It is at that point when the team looks like they aren’t working hard. Also, once the oppo gets a run on like that, it’s very hard to rectify it. Confidence drops, players lose their ability to stick to a plan and so on and so on. Footy is played in the head. And we have many inexperienced heads. Patience is key.

I wonder whether the plan was bad, or maybe not well explained, or the players lacked confidence in it. These are also possibilities. It looked like something was seriously wrong.

 

[Slippery Pete]

The data indicates the effort was there.

The scoreboard indicates it doesn’t give two f*cks

 

[Slippery Pete]

We have to accept games like this.

You can never accept a start like that.

 

[cleanhands]

Spoke to an assistant today. The data indicates the effort was there. When the method is all wrong, you get caught out of position, with no hope of influencing the play. It is at that point when the team looks like they aren’t working hard. Also, once the oppo gets a run on like that, it’s very hard to rectify it. Confidence drops, players lose their ability to stick to a plan and so on and so on. Footy is played in the head. And we have many inexperienced heads. Patience is key.

Tell the assistant if the method is wrong and hard to rectify, change the method so it can be easily rectified or find a new job

 

[Mr_Moogle]

This happens all the time. Go into to lock the ball up, fail, 3 runners on the outside. Inside 50 conceded.

We used to call this Sandoball.

 

[spenze]

Was there a month ago. Amazing place, beautiful people. Loved the chaos of Ho Chi Minh and the slowness of Hoi Ann.

Love the beer prices, when it is 35 degrees and 90% humidity and cans of Tiger are a Buck at the 24/7…life makes sense

 

[Trigger13]

You can never accept a start like that.

We’ve been one of the best starting teams for most to the year. And we’re the second least experienced. I think we can all accept that we’re doing a lot right.

 

[pjcrows]

Spoke to an assistant today. The data indicates the effort was there. When the method is all wrong, you get caught out of position, with no hope of influencing the play. It is at that point when the team looks like they aren’t working hard. Also, once the oppo gets a run on like that, it’s very hard to rectify it. Confidence drops, players lose their ability to stick to a plan and so on and so on. Footy is played in the head. And we have many inexperienced heads. Patience is key.

We do have a lot of inexperienced heads.

So why did we change our entire structure in a vital away game?

 

[1970crow]

Not enough criticism of Rory Laird

He had first use of the ball 16 times (ground ball gets) but only 1 score launch; and he had more inside 50s (7) than score involvements (5) suggesting he burned it going forward.

Brodie Smith is also an issue. Technically doesn't "play" midfield but the guy had 587 meters gained and 6 inside 50s for just 2 score involvements. He was our primary distributor and sets up our transition but he was completely ineffective

We need to find more effective avenues moving the ball forward

Smith's stats are padded by the amount of kick ins he takes. He used to be able to run lines and actually look before kicking, now he almost entirely just launches long without directing it anywhere specifically.

 

[George Kramer]

I know I keep harping on this but Jones shouldn’t have been moved off a wing, he attacks the ball strongly, his vision spotting up shorts or either long penetrating kick better suited than who playing there. He also has a Hughe tank and works his ares of from goal to goal,and covers that territory at good pace, also has speed on the outside, one of our worst decisions to shift him

Yep, moving him away from the middle when we were torched by their hands and outside run was so dumb, especially when you think we effectively replaced him with Sloane.

 

[George Kramer]

Spoke to an assistant today. The data indicates the effort was there. When the method is all wrong, you get caught out of position, with no hope of influencing the play. It is at that point when the team looks like they aren’t working hard. Also, once the oppo gets a run on like that, it’s very hard to rectify it. Confidence drops, players lose their ability to stick to a plan and so on and so on. Footy is played in the head. And we have many inexperienced heads. Patience is key.

Did you ask this assistant what they thought of Sloane, McHenry and Murphys game and whether it was a good move to shift Jones back?

 

[George Kramer]

The point is that everyone is at fault. The players for not executing the plan. The coaches for not getting them in a position to execute the plan. We are the second youngest team in the comp. We have to accept games like this.

No, we do not have to accept experienced coaches making rookie errors.

It was flagged before the game that moving Jones from the wing was a bad move. It was flagged Sloanes form has been poor.

Coaches got what they deserved, a weak effort.

 

[cleanhands]

Yep, moving him away from the middle when we were torched by their hands and outside run was so dumb, especially when you think we effectively replaced him with Sloane.

And we had no leg speed on the outside

 

[Brett Cummings]

Our supporters are delusional.