Moved Thread how do you rate and compare the past two premiers?

[99cents]

I love the way the Handbagger Flogs crap on about getting a Final down at Cheat park.

The idiots got torn a newie by Freo last time they pulled that stunt.

Even Rafa occasionally loses on clay.

 

[SaltPeter]

Everyone please keep misquoting people. It's always funny when you do it and when you're replying to someone who is making a statement, quoting people and changing the contents of the quote is hilarious and adds value to your argument.

And also, please continue trolling each other...

EFA

 

[Tiger2709]

It’s privilege to have 11 home games like everyone else and make decisions with how to best use them?? Weird definition of privilege you have their mate.

Privilege would be more along the lines of finishing lower than your opposition yet claiming the final has to be played at your home ground not the side that finished above you. Sound familiar??

We never claimed the GF has to be played at our home ground so no it doesnt sound familiar, I dont recall any complaints when other GF's were played at the G', why, because its always played at the G.
If your club chooses to have big games played at the G' when it financially suits you then dont complain when you are required under AFL rules to play there in finals, sounds like Geelongites feel their minnow club deserves privileged rights outside the rules of the game.

 

[Tiger2709]

We are Geelong, we train at Geelong, our supporter base is Geelong, 80% of our home games are at Geelong. We are called Geelong for a reason, it’s not hard to determine where Geelong gets an advantage, playing at Geelong vs a Melbourne club or at the MCG.

Should always be at skilled.

Severely disadvantaged.

This makes us by far the most disadvantaged club in the AFL.

Measures need to be taken to fix the disadvantage in the future

Precious, is the word you're looking for not disadvantaged, the most precious club in the AFL.

 

[Grin]

We are the only club in the AFL as it stands that doesn’t get to play at its home venue for a fiNals home match.

Ummm
What's Essendon's, Bulldogs', North Melbourne' & StKilda's home ground?

I'm pretty sure every Victorian club plays it's home finals at the G.
It's only Geelong supporters that angrily demand special treatment because they feel that their club is a little to small and weak to compete on the same basis as every other Victorian club. Recent history proves that you are absolutely correct.
You really should be requesting that your club play in the VFL if you can't handle the AFL.

 

[David Schwarz]

Can't even win a final at Kardinia Park so I don't know why you're in a rush to play more games there

 

[Tiger2709]

Geez, if you want to talk about weak interstate opposition in modern era GFs, see Richmond 2017 & Hawthorn 2013-2015.

I'm glad he's repaid the Richmond faith with an off-season of entertainment. The Tigers have provided us all with entertainment since the early 80s. Even winning a premiership doesn't seem to stop the laughs at Campaigner Road's expense!

The funny thing is the most upset about last years glorious victory by one of the best finals teams on record, is Geelong, when will you guys realise we belong there, it's your club with a 3rd of its total flags won this century that is the surprise, 44 years without a flag and your lowly average of one flag every 13 years tellsthe atory of failure that is the handbag legacy, Richmond on the other hand, win a flag at just under 1 every 10 years, 6 of them in my lifetime, are just back to where we belong, biggest club in the land with a likely dynasty to look forward to, not a Geelong dynasty either, a real one.

 

[Tiger2709]

Look I do feel sorry for your circumstances. You won your first premiership in 37 years, and like everyone else, you expected to sit back and be talked up and praised. Except all you have heard all pre season is the footy world belittling your premiership. It must be tough and emotional for you guys which is obvious from the emotional outbursts on your board.

Chin up mate, that’s all behind you guys now, just focus on tonight’s game.

Actually those that count have us as likely GF opponents to either Adelaide or GWS, it's Geelong that most intelligent commentators have slipping but dont let the truth get in the way of a good story, even if its not really a good story.

 

[TazHawk15]

Even Rafa occasionally loses on clay.

Speaking of tennis.

Since you have been alive its.

Hawks 30.
Handbaggers love.

WHEN IT MATTERS.

 

[99cents]

Speaking of tennis.

Since you have been alive its.

Hawks 30.
Handbaggers love.

WHEN IT MATTERS.

Rafa 16
Fed 20

 

[frggr]

The funny thing is the most upset about last years glorious victory by one of the best finals teams on record, is Geelong, when will you guys realise we belong there, it's your club with a 3rd of its total flags won this century that is the surprise, 44 years without a flag and your lowly average of one flag every 13 years tellsthe atory of failure that is the handbag legacy, Richmond on the other hand, win a flag at just under 1 every 10 years, 6 of them in my lifetime, are just back to where we belong, biggest club in the land with a likely dynasty to look forward to, not a Geelong dynasty either, a real one.

And just one in the National Comp era

 

[Tiger2709]

And just one in the National Comp era

Did you mean just 1 in the expanded 18 team national comp, where finals yet alone flags are much more difficult to achieve than the laughable period in AFL history where 50% were able to make the finals
Hawthorn 3
Richmond 1
Footscray 1
Sydney 1
Geelol

 

[frggr]

Did you mean just 1 in the expanded 18 team national comp, where finals yet alone flags are much more difficult to achieve than the laughable period in AFL history where 50% were able to make the finals
Hawthorn 3
Richmond 1
Footscray 1
Sydney 1
Geelol

No, no - just the period where traditional footy states had teams + Queensland, and varring Hawthorn's future home state, naturally.

Adding teams to states that have teams already doesn't make the comp any more 'national'.

You're ancient enough to remember when the VFL changed to the AFL, aren't you?

 

[Tiger2709]

No, no - just the period where traditional footy states had teams + Queensland, and varring Hawthorn's future home state, naturally.

Adding teams to states that have teams already doesn't make the comp any more 'national'.

You're ancient enough to remember when the VFL changed to the AFL, aren't you?

Sydney is a relocated Melbourne team GWS is the real NSW team, Brisbane Lions is an amalgamation of a Victorian team and the Besrs so again the new club is the resl thing, my point though was more related to the ease of making finals when half the clubs get a crack at it, those early easier to win AFL flags just can't be compared at the same high level as those won in the expanded comp.

 

[frggr]

Sydney is a relocated Melbourne team GWS is the real NSW team, Brisbane Lions is an amalgamation of a Victorian team and the Besrs so again the new club is the resl thing, my point though was more related to the ease of making finals when half the clubs get a crack at it, those early easier to win AFL flags just can't be compared at the same high level as those won in the expanded comp.

Ah so it's harder to win a flag when there are more teams that are weaker than when there are fewer teams that are much stronger.

Especially if you're a team that has access to high draft picks for finishing toward the bottom (and therefore access to what remains of the high quality draft picks in the Diluted Era).

Makes total sense

 

[captain blood 17]

Glad to hear it... not heading down to KP this year I believe?


Roland Garros is Rafa's cheat ground*

Why? Because he's so good playing clay. Geelong deserve a full complement of matches on clay, ie KP.

Rafa may be Spanish but he's still European. He is a champ- basically unbeatable on his chosen surface.

Imagine if they moved the french open final to nearby Wimbledon, which would still be a home final for Europeans

Tigers are too big and great to play at a boutique stadium. Our greatness now demands greater.


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[captain blood 17]

Yep we ask for two at max, sometimes we only get one depending on the schedule. It is always a home game against hawthorn or Collingwood at the MCG. Sometimes we get one or sometimes both.

We should be playing 9-10 games a year at skilled, not 7 like has been the case.

2-3 home games is a big difference when you look at how tight it gets at the top.

I thought with equalisation and your now heralded best midfield in the comp grounds wouldn’t matter.


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[magpienato]

What??

Speak English please

I'm talking about other teams like Richmond who played at KP. I think Geelong should have the right to play at KP, given that the dimensions are within reason.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I'm talking about other teams like Richmond who played at KP. I think Geelong should have the right to play at KP, given that the dimensions are within reason.

The dimensions are definitely fine. No reason we shouldn’t play home finals there.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I thought with equalisation and your now heralded best midfield in the comp grounds wouldn’t matter.


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Grounds matter even more when everything is so flattened out and equalised. What’s going to seperate the mediocre tigers from Adelaide or Geelong?? Basically the MCG was the only point of difference.

 

[frggr]

Good on the 2017 premiers for putting away bottom 4 hopeful, Carlton, by 4 goals after an arm wrestle for 95% of the game...

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Sydney is a relocated Melbourne team GWS is the real NSW team, Brisbane Lions is an amalgamation of a Victorian team and the Besrs so again the new club is the resl thing, my point though was more related to the ease of making finals when half the clubs get a crack at it, those early easier to win AFL flags just can't be compared at the same high level as those won in the expanded comp.

Simply a much weaker and easier finals run under the equalisation competition, Verse much weaker opponents with watered down lists due to the expansion teams and the cap.

Richmond have not proven they can beat an elite team in finals like other past premiership sides have. This places them at the bottom of the ranking due to their incredibly mediocre side and versing weaker opponents.

It’s just facts

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Good on the 2017 premiers for putting away bottom 4 hopeful, Carlton, by 4 goals after an arm wrestle for 95% of the game...

My god Richmond looked embarrassing.

It only happened as well after Carlton had a two man bench with kruz hobbling and Kennedy out of the game. Then they finally managed o break away lol.

That was two bottom 8 sides wrestling it it for sure.

Their game plan looks like it has been worked out, and after their system they have no talent to win games from. It’s their system or bust.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Actually those that count have us as likely GF opponents to either Adelaide or GWS, it's Geelong that most intelligent commentators have slipping but dont let the truth get in the way of a good story, even if its not really a good story.

The AFL players which makes up the largest number of experts who are inside the clubs speaking on a daily basis with the coaching panels and each other around the league, the ones who are in the real knowledge spot; all have overwhelmingly voted Richmond to rapidly drop down the ladder... now I wonder why that is??? BecAuse the clubs and the coaching panels they deal with obviously thriving highly of Richmond lol.

It’s because the industry has a low opinion of Richmond and their flag side.

Also all over bigfooty clubs are talking about how because Richmond won the premiership that it means any side can win it... now do you think this comment is because club supporters think a great champion side full of stars just so the flag or because a mediocre team just won it?? Lol.

Yu guys have been starved terrible of any respect for your flag, Yu have not even received half the respect that other clubs got when they won their flag.


I do feel sorry for you for this, as it’s ruined your celebrations and ability to soak it all up like others have before you.

Just look forward to the year and focus on the task of trying to sneak into the top 8.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Can't even win a final at Kardinia Park so I don't know why you're in a rush to play more games there

Sir, have you written that thank you note yet??? You really are being ungrateful to old Gill.

Let me help you out with writing it.