Society/Culture Hypocrisy of The Left - part 4

[gutsroy]

This is a bit of a jarring read.
It ends up turning into a point scoring exercise and a chance to dunk on each other all day for being a left wing snowflake / right wing cooker.
Perry seems to have acted with good intentions, he also had Neely in a chokehold that went on for several minutes and clearly contributed to Neely's death, whether you want to say it was the sole cause or not. Compression of the neck was the physical cause.
It's not clear-cut, it was a bloody awful situation and we in the peanut gallery launching into increasingly polarized takes on it to win an argument won't take change a heap.

 

[adammania9]

Courts in America are ****ed

Shit a rapist is the president

Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he didn't do it.

There's video footage of him choking Neely to death


Cry more about it

I’m not crying about it. Penny is a free man. The courts nailed this one.

 

[Gralin]

This is a bit of a jarring read.
It ends up turning into a point scoring exercise and a chance to dunk on each other all day for being a left wing snowflake / right wing cooker.
Perry seems to have acted with good intentions, he also had Neely in a chokehold that went on for several minutes and clearly contributed to Neely's death, whether you want to say it was the sole cause or not. Compression of the neck was the physical cause.
It's not clear-cut, it was a bloody awful situation and we in the peanut gallery launching into increasingly polarized takes on it to win an argument won't take change a heap.

I think it's pretty clear cut he choked a homeless man to death holding on for over a minute after he'd gone completely limp

I’m not crying about it. Penny is a free man. The courts nailed this one.

You're in here crying that people who you don't like don't like him

 

[gutsroy]

I think it's pretty clear cut he choked a homeless man to death holding on for over a minute after he'd gone completely limp


You're in here crying that people who you don't like don't like him

I see it that way, too, for what it is worth. I don't think it's clear cut that he went in to the situation with that intent

 

[adammania9]

He choked a homeless man to death in front of a crowd

The only person who was actually violent that day was Penny

So again, what makes him a good person because choking an unconscious man to death when people told him to stop doesn't sound like a good person to me

"He just held him, he didn't choke him," Gittings said of Penny.

Another witness standing by her side said Penny "did take him down, like, very respectfully, just like held him down."

Gittings said when Neely came into the train, "he was unbelievably off the charts. He scared the living daylights out of everybody."

'Look, I'm a lifetime subway rider, I've seen everything, As New Yorkers, we've all seen everything. I've never seen anything like this. Nothing ever frightened me as much as Jordan Neely frightened me that day,'" Kenniff said outside of court.

But on the stand, witness Lori Sitro said she had to shield her 5-year-old son with a stroller as Neely lunged at people within a foot of their faces.

Another witness, Dan Couvreur, said Neely had his hands balled into fists. Couvreur testified that he quickly moved away from Neely as he slammed his jacket to the ground.

Gittings, meanwhile, testified that Neely was "very loud, very menacing, very disturbing."

She also testified that she approached Penny on the platform to thank him for intervening.

Do these sound like the actions of a non-violent man with no ill intentions?

 

[Demons09]

Courts in America are ****ed

Shit a rapist is the president

Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he didn't do it.

There's video footage of him choking Neely to death


Cry more about it

Cry more lol the world is changing for the better get used to it, the thread title has been nailed .

 

[Gough]

Cry more lol the world is changing for the better get used to it, the thread title has been nailed .

What do you think is going to happen?

 

[Demons09]

What do you think is going to happen?

Your side of politics is redundant or will be soon enough and how sweet it is.

 

[Gough]

Your side of politics is redundant or will be soon enough and how sweet it is.

How's that going to happen?

 

[Demons09]

How's that going to happen?

Its already happening in America or are you blind, surely you can see it going conservative in Europe l, that idiot Starmer is gone the in action on child grooming fiasco is the final nail in his coffin , you lefties might be lucky you have Dutton in charge of the Libs here but i reckon he’ll still get up, i mean i remember all this bullshit about waiting for the Boomers to die out , the young people coming through aren’t stupid although reading posts on here they are apparently.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Its already happening in America or are you blind, surely you can see it going conservative in Europe l, that idiot Starmer is gone the in action on child grooming fiasco is the final nail in his coffin , you lefties might be lucky you have Dutton in charge of the Libs here but i reckon he’ll still get up, i mean i remember all this bullshit about waiting for the Boomers to die out , the young people coming through aren’t stupid although reading posts on here they are apparently.

Remember to breathe dude.

 

[Demons09]

Remember to breathe dude.

You’re my favourite mod GP.

 

[Gough]

I wonder whether Trump's first few months in office might demonstrate to the rest of the world why they don't want to follow America don't that path.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

You’re my favourite mod GP.

Yeah, that's why I keep reminding you to breathe. I encourage others to do the same.

 

[100action]

This is common knowledge but good to see the veil lifted. Censorship through harassment of non-government entities.

Imagine mistreating and alienating one of the strongest supporters of the democrat party into saying stuff like this lmfao:



This is some disgraceful stuff and appears to be the go to tactic for the modern left these days. How anybody wants to be associated with the modern left is beyond me.

 

[Chief]

This is some disgraceful stuff and appears to be the go to tactic for the modern left these days. How anybody wants to be associated with the modern left is beyond me.

After the right spent most of the 2010's screeching about getting "Zucked" off of Facebook, now Zuckerberg is their hero?

It's known that government agencies would request stuff be taken down.

Did Mark give details?

Which posts?

Which topics?

Which accounts?

 

[100action]

After the right spent most of the 2010's screeching about getting "Zucked" off of Facebook, now Zuckerberg is their hero?

It's known that government agencies would request stuff be taken down.

Did Mark give details?

Which posts?

Which topics?

Which accounts?

Not sure who these right wing folks are but if they exist and they made content that happened to be accurate (political or not) and was de-platformed, it'd be reasonable they consider this a welcome change no?

Yes Mark gives details to 3/4 of those Qs in the video.

And I'd advise against going down the Chief tactic of asking followup questions requesting more detail. You know a CEO for a 1.5t publicly listed company is not going to disclose that on a Joe Rogan podcast.

Bottom line and undeniable fact is that censorship is abhorrent no matter which way you vote and Mark's comments here provide undeniable proof the Biden administration engaged in this.

 

[Chief]

undeniable fact is that censorship is abhorrent

In which context?

 

[Chief]

Yes Mark gives details to 3/4 of those Qs in the video.

I don't plan on watching it.

Could you tell us all about them?

 

[Carringbush2010]

Ya just gotta come here and the other one, hypocrisy of the right, for the lols.

It's a really good pick me up for the everyone else (read the majority)

Hope this thread and its nemesis continues. at the ready!

Could even merge the threads and just call it hypocrisy of the fringe minded morons.

 

[Gethelred]

This is a bit of a jarring read.
It ends up turning into a point scoring exercise and a chance to dunk on each other all day for being a left wing snowflake / right wing cooker.
Perry seems to have acted with good intentions, he also had Neely in a chokehold that went on for several minutes and clearly contributed to Neely's death, whether you want to say it was the sole cause or not. Compression of the neck was the physical cause.
It's not clear-cut, it was a bloody awful situation and we in the peanut gallery launching into increasingly polarized takes on it to win an argument won't take change a heap.

This thread, in a nutshell.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I recall a thread named hypocrisy of the left and right, and it became another hypocrisy of the left thread lol. Both threads were like puddles of mud and shit for pigs.


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[Gethelred]

Not sure who these right wing folks are but if they exist and they made content that happened to be accurate (political or not) and was de-platformed, it'd be reasonable they consider this a welcome change no?

Yes Mark gives details to 3/4 of those Qs in the video.

And I'd advise against going down the Chief tactic of asking followup questions requesting more detail. You know a CEO for a 1.5t publicly listed company is not going to disclose that on a Joe Rogan podcast.

Bottom line and undeniable fact is that censorship is abhorrent no matter which way you vote and Mark's comments here provide undeniable proof the Biden administration engaged in this.

Hitchen's Law: that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Unless Zuckerberg et al wants to have his claims of censorship dismissed, he needs to supply those details, and there is no "undeniable proof" at all.

As for censorship always being abhorrent, absolute statements are very silly things to make.

 

[100action]

Hitchen's Law: that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Unless Zuckerberg et al wants to have his claims of censorship dismissed, he needs to supply those details, and there is no "undeniable proof" at all.

As for censorship always being abhorrent, absolute statements are very silly things to make.

This is not a court of law, this is an internet forum where a degree of trust will be required for a basic level of discourse. In the context of Mark's standing and the platform which he makes these statements provides more than sufficient confidence to form a position on until there is some new information from a reputable source of equal standing to suggest otherwise.

But based on the content that's posted on these forums, perhaps your desired burden of evidence in the form of 'direct evidence' only applies when the position/discourse doesn't align with yours am I right?

Absolutism applies to quite a few things, particularly when it comes to matters that affect civil rights. Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

 

[100action]

I have to take a step back here, it's incredible what's going on here.

Rather than be genuinely shocked at what Mark's has just conveyed, instead those that find the views too confronting and against their agenda are using the need for "direct evidence" to strawman the content.

Perhaps it may not be "undeniable" but it provides more than sufficient confidence for a reasonable person to form their views on the matter.

absolutely wild!