I am sick of this bloke

[Isandula]

I don't know why you guys waste time by starting threads on articles by these little men. Before I came on this forum I had never heard of Patrick Smith nor read anything in The Australian, and now I wish it could have stayed that way.

I have only read The Australian once and its ridiculously big and annoying and anyway I wont care what these try-hard know-all's write, they only do it to get attention even though half the time it only alleged stuff not cold hard facts, but hey that's journalism for you
Anyway as an eagles supporter you become immune to what is written about them these days, these journalist don't realise how fortunate they are to have such a club to give them such interesting things to write about

 

[Ljam]

Re: Patrick Smith's email - tell him what you really think!

I thought it was a reasonably well written and accurate article at least he is original and sticks to his arguements

 

[spring6]

Go ahead and win a premiership, guys. That is all that matters. this is football after all.

 

[general mac]

You guys would give your left nob to wipe Benny's record clean.

Unfortunatly it is obvious from the beggining that Westcoasts response to Cousins dire situatuion was farcical.

You guys could not give a shit about a persons welfare, only about trying to win another flag at all cost.

Here's a prediction for you: After he retires, Ben cousins will end up having a mamoth drug habit that he will not be able to kick, he may even die from it, if he does, Westcoast will bear a lot of the responsibility.

Patrick Smith is only telling you the truth.

Too bad you would prefer to listen to your clubs lies than the truth.

 

[WaDsY]

You guys would give your left nob to wipe Benny's record clean.

Unfortunatly it is obvious from the beggining that Westcoasts response to Cousins dire situatuion was farcical.

You guys could not give a shit about a persons welfare, only about trying to win another flag at all cost.

Here's a prediction for you: After he retires, Ben cousins will end up having a mamoth drug habit that he will not be able to kick, he may even die from it, if he does, Westcoast will bear a lot of the responsibility.

Patrick Smith is only telling you the truth.

Too bad you would prefer to listen to your clubs lies than the truth.

The facts are he has been punished more then any other drug user in the AFL. Currently 30+ tested positive and they are still playing. If the Cousins saga means that no-one else tests positive again.... then mission accomplished.

Another thing, I defy anyone to say they would not want their club to win the premiership at all costs. I wouldnt want to barrack for a club that didnt have that mentallity. Remember they play football for us. Thats it, they exist to win premierships. Lets be serious here they are footballers not doctors or scientists or politicians.... its football!!!

It doesnt get any simplier then that I wouldnt of thought.

 

[Genesis67]

Another thing, I defy anyone to say they would not want their club to win the premiership at all costs. I wouldnt want to barrack for a club that didnt have that mentallity. Remember they play football for us.

And they play it at our cost. Its our money that drives the AFL corporate juggernaut.

 

[kilaw]

You guys would give your left nob to wipe Benny's record clean.

Unfortunatly it is obvious from the beggining that Westcoasts response to Cousins dire situatuion was farcical.

You guys could not give a shit about a persons welfare, only about trying to win another flag at all cost.

Here's a prediction for you: After he retires, Ben cousins will end up having a mamoth drug habit that he will not be able to kick, he may even die from it, if he does, Westcoast will bear a lot of the responsibility.

Patrick Smith is only telling you the truth.

Too bad you would prefer to listen to your clubs lies than the truth.

Ignorance is bliss.

If we were trying to win a premiership at all costs, seemingly cousins wouldn't have endured 13 weeks away from the club, he's a pretty important player to the team General Mac.

In hindsight, I don't see what else we could have done, we sent him to the US for rehabilitation for his substance abuse problems. He came back late April (after round 5 I believe) to resume his rehab as an out-patient for what is now 8 weeks.

He has already gone a week over the penalty for a player caught 3 times under the current system. So there's talk of him returning - suddenly we're rushing him back because we will win at all costs?

The article is stupid and hypocritical. He seems to think he knows everything and everyone else is blind to the facts, well I guess I know where he's getting his facts from (cough robert walls cough).

 

[Ruddiger]

You guys would give your left nob to wipe Benny's record clean.

Unfortunatly it is obvious from the beggining that Westcoasts response to Cousins dire situatuion was farcical.

You guys could not give a shit about a persons welfare, only about trying to win another flag at all cost.

Here's a prediction for you: After he retires, Ben cousins will end up having a mamoth drug habit that he will not be able to kick, he may even die from it, if he does, Westcoast will bear a lot of the responsibility.

Patrick Smith is only telling you the truth.

Too bad you would prefer to listen to your clubs lies than the truth.

And here comes another expert.
So you're saying even though the AFL tests all came back negative, West Coast should have suspended him anyway?

Remember that he was suspended this year by West Coast, not the AFL. They could have kept it quiet, but didn't. Fremantle played Polak after it was publicised that he was on 2 strikes. There are other players that have tested positive once by the AFL that don't have any penalties. Are they also responsible for what their players do off field?

 

[brookers#5]

do west coast fans believe cousins should be back playing now or copped a ban of 1 or 2 years i believe he probably should of got a year i'd like to know what west coast fans think.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

do west coast fans believe cousins should be back playing now or copped a ban of 1 or 2 years i believe he probably should of got a year i'd like to know what west coast fans think.

The rest of the football public are the best judge as to what the Eagles should do? Yeah right.

 

[Big Fish]

Not being a West Coast supporter I think they should just get off his back and let him play football, he has done all the right things to play football again and if Worsfold and his coaching staff want him I hope he rips it up this weekend.

Somebody should punch Hutchinson out for that time he followed him to the states.....Disgusting

 

[JinmboJones]

do west coast fans believe cousins should be back playing now or copped a ban of 1 or 2 years i believe he probably should of got a year i'd like to know what west coast fans think.

Jeez how many times do we have to say it - HE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF BREAKING ANY AFL REGULATION. Why should he be banned for a 13 weeks, let alone a year?

 

[tigers71]

Whos Patrick Smith? Has he played Australian Rules Football?? Who does he support?? I had no idea what Patrick Smith is trying to say?The only way is to beat every other team in the comp. There again Patrick Smith will whinge about West Coast winning back to back premierships. Ben Cousins is doing his best to get back on the football field in this clown writes garbage like that.

 

[imright]

You guys would give your left nob to wipe Benny's record clean.

Unfortunatly it is obvious from the beggining that Westcoasts response to Cousins dire situatuion was farcical.

You guys could not give a shit about a persons welfare, only about trying to win another flag at all cost.

Here's a prediction for you: After he retires, Ben cousins will end up having a mamoth drug habit that he will not be able to kick, he may even die from it, if he does, Westcoast will bear a lot of the responsibility.

Patrick Smith is only telling you the truth.

Too bad you would prefer to listen to your clubs lies than the truth.

If West Coast was only concerned about winning a flag and not the player's welfare why did they suspend him for more than half the season and send him half way around the world to get rehabilitation.

It is amazing how gullible people like you are. Patrick Smith preaches to the stupid eg. general mac

 

[since82eags]

You guys would give your left nob to wipe Benny's record clean.

Unfortunatly it is obvious from the beggining that Westcoasts response to Cousins dire situatuion was farcical.

You guys could not give a shit about a persons welfare, only about trying to win another flag at all cost.

Here's a prediction for you: After he retires, Ben cousins will end up having a mamoth drug habit that he will not be able to kick, he may even die from it, if he does, Westcoast will bear a lot of the responsibility.

Patrick Smith is only telling you the truth.

Too bad you would prefer to listen to your clubs lies than the truth.

Yeah obviously the rehab we paid for and the 13 weeks suspension was a match winning move for us wasn't it? And now we are taking the biggest risk in the clubs history by letting him back into the club knowing we could get knocked out of the top four because we lose points if he stuffs up.

 

[brookers#5]

He has admitted to taking drugs which is cheating whats the difference between testing positive or admitting it, i dont have a problem with him playing but i think some sough tof ban needed to be handed out & the 13 weeks is fine but why couldn't they of said 12 weeks for arguments sakes that means everything would be fine now rather then all this crap that is going on.

 

[Mr Eagle]

He has admitted to taking drugs which is cheating

Only if they're performance enhancing, and he has never admitted to what he was taking (although the hearsay is rampant on one or two particular substances).

Otherwise, what you're suggesting is that players taking rohypnol before a game should be classified as cheating....

 

[arfadunger]

Why do the same issues keep coming up? People must really be as silly as Patrck Smith says they are to continue to bring up the same tripe after over 3 months. Facts:

- Ben Cousins was suspended by the club for failing to meet club requirements.
- His Father then said he had a substance abuse problem.
- That substance was believed to be Ice.
- He has never tested +ve for illict drugs.
- Other players have tested +ve for illicit drugs, some of them twice and continue to play without scrutiny.
- If an AFL player tests +ve for illict drugs 3 time he can be suspended for up to 12 matches.
- Cousins did admit to substance use.
- Cousins has met all the conditions asked of him by the club and the AFL and is now back at the club, and after today should be available for selection.
- His suspension by the club ended up being for 13 rounds, one more than the maximum suspension applicable to a 3 stike user.

Cousins brought this on himself, and deserves no sympathy for that, but he's done his time so lets move on.

While I am ranting, a couple more things. He can't come back via the WAFL, it would turn that game into a circus. That competition deserves more respect than that. The game against the Lions really is the perfect opportunity to ease him back in and get some game time into him.

Another thing that is annoying me coming from Eastern State journos is that they say the AFL are uncomfortable about what message it sends, if on GF day he has a Premiership medllion and Norm Smith medal around his neck. I say that if they are uncomfortable about that, then change their drug policy for illict drug usage to a stronger one, and then maybe they could have suspended Cousins (and for a longer period). As it stands at the moment it appears that the AFL are making it up as they go along. Maybe they can have a 12 match suspension for players who play for clubs that aren't going to make it into the finals, and a suspension for the rest of the season for players who play for clubs that are going to play in the finals? Or maybe they can just get over it and move on.

 

[general mac]

Fact : West Coast knew about Cousins little "problem" many months before. They only acted when they did becuase the press were about to get a hold of it.

All I am saying is that you are being lied to. That's all Pat Smith is saying also.

Why do you all have to make out that the club is beyond reproach when you must know that you are having the wool pulled, eyes over ???

Just except it, your club is full of crap, (just like most corporate entities these days), and the only reason they did anything is cos if they didn't they would have faced so much embarressment in the media and the situation would have brought so much contraversy for the corporate sponsors and so uch pressure from the AFL, that you had to act.

 

[Quinz]

Fact : West Coast knew about Cousins little "problem" many months before. They only acted when they did becuase the press were about to get a hold of it.

You really don't get it do you?

Woosha said himself that he cannot suspend players on innuendo and rumour, Cousins had fulfilled all commitments required by the club and the AFL, had never tested positive to drugs of any sort, so it was impossible for the club to suspend him without proof, they just couldn't do it.

Until he failed to meet the regulations that the Eagles had set with training and matches, which he did by missing several training sessions, they couldn't do anything about the rumors. When it turned out that he missed training a few times, the Eagles decided to act and did act.

Just except it, your club is full of crap, (just like most corporate entities these days), and the only reason they did anything is cos if they didn't they would have faced so much embarressment in the media and the situation would have brought so much contraversy for the corporate sponsors and so uch pressure from the AFL, that you had to act.

Well thank god we avoided the media circus then, phew, we dodged a bullet there! I don't think anyone got hold of the Ben Cousins story, luckily we acted in time.

People on this site know the three players who have tested positive twice to NPED's, but the AFL and the clubs do not act in these cases, while Cousins was blasted in the media for doing the smae thing that 20+ current AFL players have done, although his required rehabilitation. He did not break an AFL rule, he was suspended for breaching club rules and was suspended indefinately, which has now extended to 13 weeks, more than the maximum penalty for a three time positive tester.

And he deserves it as well. The club has done exactly was has been required of it.

Also our club may be full of crap, but at least it's not full of rapists. Still, not much media attention there either. Apparently we'd prefer to know what Ben Cousins is wearing on a plane flight.

 

[general mac]

Good Luck with Benny's return.

Somehow I think the damage is already done.

If you miss out on going Back to back will you blame your clubs handeling of the Cousins saga I wonder ?

Maybe in future years you will look back and secretly wonder if someone had done the right thing by Benny in 2006 and had a quite fire side chat... but then again ... no.

The Club did the right thing, at least you can take comfort in that.

Pity about the Dynasty.

 

[plugger47]

Lote Tuquiri was suspended for 2 games and fined $20,000 for failing to attend a compulsory medical check AND a compulsory training session likely because he had a big night the night before AND because this was the suspended penalty hanging over him from a night club brawl while on an official team trip last year.

Ben Cousins was suspended for 13 games and has had his entire contract restructured at a cost of some $500,000 because he failed to attend training on a number of occasions (or attended in an unfit state).

Tuquri appears to get on the squirt too often and it leads to breaches of team rules.

Cuz apprently got on the gear too often and it lead to breaches of team rules.

The AFL clubs are soft

PS: Does anyone have an email address for Fatprick?

Just send it to the editor and hopefully they will print that nonsense. And Smithie's article will be verified. Do you want to let the code be a national laughing stock? Comparing Lote to Cuz is ludicrous. Cuzz is (or if you choose) was using prohibited substance(s) FFS

 

[plugger47]

* prepares for HUGE backlash from the general public against the club from citizens outraged by reading Smiths article *

Take it you are referring to half a smallish provinicial town on the far side of the country? Rupert's on the blower barking the out Smithies departure notice from the Big Apple no doubt embers

 

[imright]

Fact : West Coast knew about Cousins little "problem" many months before. They only acted when they did becuase the press were about to get a hold of it.

All I am saying is that you are being lied to. That's all Pat Smith is saying also.

Why do you all have to make out that the club is beyond reproach when you must know that you are having the wool pulled, eyes over ???

Just except it, your club is full of crap, (just like most corporate entities these days), and the only reason they did anything is cos if they didn't they would have faced so much embarressment in the media and the situation would have brought so much contraversy for the corporate sponsors and so uch pressure from the AFL, that you had to act.

What is it like to grow up with a mentor like Patrick Smith?
It's interesting that a Swans supporter who lives 3000 miles away can claim to know all the intimate goings on at the West Coast Eagles.
You seem to swallow any BS that a tabloid artist would serve up to you.
Fortunately for you there's no law against being STUPID.

 

[imright]

Good Luck with Benny's return.

Somehow I think the damage is already done.

If you miss out on going Back to back will you blame your clubs handeling of the Cousins saga I wonder ?

Maybe in future years you will look back and secretly wonder if someone had done the right thing by Benny in 2006 and had a quite fire side chat... but then again ... no.

The Club did the right thing, at least you can take comfort in that.

Pity about the Dynasty.

Oh my, sounds like someone hasn't got over the heartbreaking 1 point loss in a Grand Final to the West Coast Eagles. Yes General Mac, it wasn't a bad dream.