I am totally confused...

[Froggy]

aaaaaa

 

[Ford Fairlane]

It's the same sort of logic from the cave-dwelling troglodytes that willed Port Adelaide to lose with all their black hearts, and when we did were affronted that we disrespected them by letting South Australia down. Heaven forbid that their tiny worlds might catch onto global issues like peak oil and climate change, for we might be blamed for those too.

 

[jarmanagic]

I know there were issues with accepting we were in the grand final, all week I got you had a easy run, so luck etc etc, Geelong's going to belt you etc and then when they did it somehow relates to the Crows. Yes you can give me crap for Port losing but to somehow relate it to the Crows at all is just so illogical, that's what is shitting me off.

agree 100% nothing to do with the Crows

I think like it or not there was a perception that Port were cocky, arrogant leading up to the GF. I think Choco has explained his stance ok, although the deliberate targetting of King by him and Primus was a bit over the top for mine

Tredders..... i think he brought the attention on himself. Struggling as he has all year he didnt have the ability to back up his confidence with great play as Aker used to and Warne always did

 

[Spadge]

Tredders..... i think he brought the attention on himself. Struggling as he has all year he didnt have the ability to back up his confidence with great play as Aker used to and Warne always did

after the GF at Vodafone arena Tredders admitted that he shouldnt have done the bow, but then went on to say that he was caught up in the moment, the crowd was doing the mexican wave, the game was won and we were on the way to a grand final
not really an act that deserved the wrath he has received though

 

[*PAF]

Meh, just be grateful that the AFL brought trade week "forward" to just one week after our last game.

 

[CarnCrows]

Finally, we don't represent South Australia, we represent the Port Adelaide Football Club, we can't disgrace the state we don't represent them. The media bandwagoners turn it into a Vic vs SA thing, I couldn't give a **** what state the cup is in, I only care about what club might win it, Vic has the cup whoa, I have a feeling most of them are dumbfounded by our media's logic on this as well.

I dunno, I can take the jibes but I seriously am totally confused how it relates to the Crows at all.

I agree with the State v club thing, it is a club based competition. However the media will always milk the same retoric over and over. For me it's Crows first, then whoever will help the Crows the most second.

The unfortunate, but petty nature of SA football supporters. We dont handle the rivalry too well. If roles were reversed we would get the same crap.

not really an act that deserved the wrath he has received though

Agree. I dont think it was insulting or looked that stupid. The phone thing though.....

 

[Thunderer]

I still can't get why Tredder's or even Chad's celebrations were so spectacularly criticised. The bow was oozing with class and the goose dance was funny - and none of them had anything to do with the Grand Final.It happens everywhere in every sport.

Just check these clips out, I think Warren and Chad could get a few ideas from here.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/528153/best_goal_celebrations/

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/562262/best_goal_celebrations_2/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuAJhHtNBMM

 

[jammo]

I still can't get why Tredder's or even Chad's celebrations were so spectacularly criticised. The bow was oozing with class and the goose dance was funny - and none of them had anything to do with the Grand Final.It happens everywhere in every sport.

Just check these clips out, I think Warren and Chad could get a few ideas from here.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/528153/best_goal_celebrations/

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/562262/best_goal_celebrations_2/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuAJhHtNBMM

im with u on this 1 and i dont no y both of the celebrations were so heavily criticised. O'loughlin didnt cop crap for sledging in the finals last yr when we beat wce...

 

[SupportMe]

I still can't get why Tredder's or even Chad's celebrations were so spectacularly criticised. The bow was oozing with class and the goose dance was funny - and none of them had anything to do with the Grand Final.It happens everywhere in every sport.

Just check these clips out, I think Warren and Chad could get a few ideas from here.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/528153/best_goal_celebrations/

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/562262/best_goal_celebrations_2/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuAJhHtNBMM

Did anyone else notice a guy named Ebert in the first link?

 

[Power King]

They say we disgraced the state, SA, therefore if they go on about this they must care for our state.

Port Adelaide is a part of the state, therefore, they should care for Port Adelaide. They don't.

Obvious stupidity.

Look, crows have a LOT of idiot bandwagon champagne ****-all knowledgeable supporters. Let them be oblivious to their stupidity, and to their chances of actually winning a premiership in the near future.

Concentrate on Port Adelaide, and the actual steps we have taken to blood this club since the end of 05. Let the football do our talking, and let crows fans live the next millenium as though it's still 1997/98.

 

[Power King]

im with u on this 1 and i dont no y both of the celebrations were so heavily criticised. O'loughlin didnt cop crap for sledging in the finals last yr when we beat wce...

^and mate, i LOVED o'loughlin's celebration where he went to the face of the eagles supporters. arrogant? probably. but passionate? **** YES. and passionate is what i like to see.

and i was a neutral supporter when syd wce played those classic games.

 

[catswhiskers]

Froggy.
The real footy lovers don't get into the put downs. The sh*t comes from those who don't understand that we all love the same game.


2008 season started last Sunday. I hope it will be as good as 2007 but know that its back to a 16 team race again.


You've had plenty of good years -remember them and ignore the part time footy fans who feel the need to use the put down.

 

[TheFridge]

Froggy, I am bewildered as to why you are confused.

Surely, you expected nothing less from the myriad of Crow bandwagon supporters. Why heck, over here in Melbourne I have even had Richmond supporters trying to rib me...

As the Cats Whiskers said, knowledgable football supporters go no further than a gentle dig.... Unless they are a Cat supporter they know they have nothing to brag about.

 

[jarmanagic]

Froggy, I am bewildered as to why you are confused.

Surely, you expected nothing less from the myriad of Crow bandwagon supporters. Why heck, over here in Melbourne I have even had Richmond supporters trying to rib me...

As the Cats Whiskers said, knowledgable football supporters go no further than a gentle dig.... Unless they are a Cat supporter they know they have nothing to brag about.

I think this is a really good post. Crows/Port rivalry is real, cant turn it on and off, dont want to either. Im sure many Port fans enjoyed Buddy's goal, thus many Crows fans enjoyed Ports demise, that is what a rivalry is all about. I bet Celtics fans dont barrack for Rangers, India/Pakistan etc

By the way Thunderer Tredders bow might have been passionate but "oozing with class" I bet not many believe that

 

[Froggy]

I think this is a really good post. Crows/Port rivalry is real, cant turn it on and off, dont want to either. Im sure many Port fans enjoyed Buddy's goal, thus many Crows fans enjoyed Ports demise, that is what a rivalry is all about. I bet Celtics fans dont barrack for Rangers, India/Pakistan etc

By the way Thunderer Tredders bow might have been passionate but "oozing with class" I bet not many believe that

I understand the ribbing that's fine I wear my heart on my sleeve when it comes Port Adelaide so I give and get as good as I can. Crows supporters giving me crap about the GF is fine, I expect ribbing the bit I don't get is somehow relating our loss to the Crows being great etc when they finished 8. Have a look at some of the comments on AdelaideNow and it's just ridiculous and in the Advertiser, finishing them with go Crows... the Crows haven't done anything.

The who debacle over the celebrations as well that is just ridiculous, how about Buddy Franklin after every goal every week... Des Headland I mean I could go on, there was just nothing else to talk about last week. I bet if we didn't celebrate they would of been going on about how we showed no emotion in getting into a GF.

 

[PAFCsince1870]

Froggy, I am bewildered as to why you are confused.

Surely, you expected nothing less from the myriad of Crow bandwagon supporters. Why heck, over here in Melbourne I have even had Richmond supporters trying to rib me...

As the Cats Whiskers said, knowledgable football supporters go no further than a gentle dig.... Unless they are a Cat supporter they know they have nothing to brag about.

I think that's what so confusing. I know personally, that many Crows supporters have gone well beyond a gentle dig, with some going as far to say as they can give it to us for the next 12 months?

Have they even made a Grand Final this century?

 

[jarmanagic]

I think that's what so confusing. I know personally, that many Crows supporters have gone well beyond a gentle dig, with some going as far to say as they can give it to us for the next 12 months?

Have they even made a Grand Final this century?

not sure that making a grand final is the only performance indicator though. winning one is and with regard to this our frst 11 years in the comp pretty good actually, and more successful than yours FYI. However any crows fans giving it to Port should be aware we've got our own challenges ahead, no doubt (as does your team, and evey team)

 

[TheFridge]

I think that's what so confusing. I know personally, that many Crows supporters have gone well beyond a gentle dig, with some going as far to say as they can give it to us for the next 12 months?

Have they even made a Grand Final this century?

The key words in my post were "knowledgable" and "bandwagon"...

Those who gloat over a team losing a GF, when their team finished lower are simply ignorant bandwagon supporters. Remember what they say: never argue with an idiot, they'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience...

Instead, my advice is to just treat them with polite disdain and say things like, "Proud to have gone so far", "outclassed on the day" and "happy to achieved so highly this year, but looking forward to our young team taking the next step".... Also no harm in then politely asking them how they feel about their teams performance this year, and asking if they have any idea as to why so many Crows players want out of Crowland...

Note: I haven't encountered (yet) any gloating Cat supporters, they seem to be too busy enjoying the moment and good luck to them....

 

[Spadge]

not sure that making a grand final is the only performance indicator though. winning one is and with regard to this our frst 11 years in the comp pretty good actually, and more successful than yours FYI.

so basically your saying that 15 teams fail every year. KPI's are down for 15 teams every season
garbage
Port didnt set out to win a premiership this season just gone. why? because they are in the middle of a rebuild, have a shitload of young kids playing regular AFL footy (developing).

Are they happy they made a GF even if they lost it? of course they are.
Did they reach their KPI's from the start of the 2007 season? i would say they exceeded their KPI's

you cant just base it on who wins and loses the premiership otherwise 15 teams would be sacking everyone every season

 

[tribey]

I still can't get why Tredder's or even Chad's celebrations were so spectacularly criticised. The bow was oozing with class and the goose dance was funny - and none of them had anything to do with the Grand Final.It happens everywhere in every sport.

I thought the exact same thing at the time. Just kicked a peach of a goal, absolute partytime, but instead of doing the usual double-fist pump or running around like a madman he had the composure to to stop dead and do a straight-faced bow to the faithful.

Sensational.

But this is Tredders we're talking about. He could cure cancer and the media would criticise him for not ironing his labcoat for the presser.

 

[PAFCsince1870]

not sure that making a grand final is the only performance indicator though. winning one is and with regard to this our frst 11 years in the comp pretty good actually, and more successful than yours FYI. However any crows fans giving it to Port should be aware we've got our own challenges ahead, no doubt (as does your team, and evey team)

Yes, but you haven't made a Grand Final (and thus NO chance at a premiership) since 1998, and are probably looking at at least 2011 onwards for another realistic tilt. That's a fair time between drinks.

I could cop it from a Geelong supporter, but why Crows supporters are still going on about it the Wednesday after, I have no idea (not directed at you in anyway jarmanagic).

 

[jarmanagic]

Yes, but you haven't made a Grand Final (and thus NO chance at a premiership) since 1998, and are probably looking at at least 2011 onwards for another realistic tilt. That's a fair time between drinks.

I could cop it from a Geelong supporter, but why Crows supporters are still going on about it the Wednesday after, I have no idea (not directed at you in anyway jarmanagic).

not sure about 2011 but you are right, you guys finished above us on the ladder, I think we are on pretty thin ground sinking the boot in. Port did a great job to make the GF. No argument from me

 

[johnwehbe]

they trying to feel better cos of their choke

 

[Spadge]

not sure about 2011 but you are right, you guys finished above us on the ladder, I think we are on pretty thin ground sinking the boot in. Port did a great job to make the GF. No argument from me

you get my respect with this comment. Pity a few of your mates dont follow suit

 

[jarmanagic]

so basically your saying that 15 teams fail every year. KPI's are down for 15 teams every season
garbage
Port didnt set out to win a premiership this season just gone. why? because they are in the middle of a rebuild, have a shitload of young kids playing regular AFL footy (developing).

Are they happy they made a GF even if they lost it? of course they are.
Did they reach their KPI's from the start of the 2007 season? i would say they exceeded their KPI's

you cant just base it on who wins and loses the premiership otherwise 15 teams would be sacking everyone every season

I never said it was the only performance indicator. Depends on expectations doesnt it? for example Id think Geelong, Port, North, Colingwood probably Hawhorn happy with their year, yet only 2 made the GF. Id think Crow not happy (we could speculate re injuries luck etc) with 07 but my point is making a GF not the only KPI. For example I think the Crows in 2006 were superb, terrible run with injuries at the end of the year derailed them, didnt make GF but had a great year (you might disagree)