If Heeney?

[Cleansweep17]

Not only did Dusty win 3 Norm Smith medals but he also won 3 Gary Ayres awards (Player of the Finals).

I think the more time goes on the more people will grasp how impressive of a feat that is. I can’t see another player break BOTH those records let alone 1 of them. All winning GFs too in 4 years.

 

[Lunchtime]

Home & Away footy only means a certain amount. Home & Away footy sets a team up for a Premiership but Finals footy is what wins teams a Premiership. It's a small window...only 1 month...but that is when it truly matters. Too much emphasis goes into Home & Away footy. Need to get the job done in Finals too. Sydney now have a 1-4 Grand Final record under Longmire as coach.

 

[SSSSSS]

Had an absolute shocker.

 

[Lingsface]

wow this comment hasn't aged well....

If is the key word.

 

[Lingsface]

Will be a close finish

Neale will win Ayer’s now.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

If there were ever a time to release a hostage style video apologising, now would've been the time

 

[Markfs]

i think more people should focus on the chad...

If is the key word.

i dont think it aged well for the period before he posted it...

 

[GreynRusty]

Wow!

Maybe waiting a few weeks before showing an inability to accept that 2017 - 2020 was real may make people look less bitter.

On the bright side! you can start an Ashcroft is Goat thread now!

 

[Pancakes]

Fraud.
Was probably the worst on ground today, and easily the biggest disappointment of the game.

Watch him have 25 touches and four goals against North next year and people will talk him up, but he is worthless when it really matters.

 

[Markfs]

Wow!

Maybe waiting a few weeks before showing an inability to accept that 2017 - 2020 was real may make people look less bitter.

On the bright side! you can start an Ashcroft is Goat thread now!

he cant make speeches like darcy moore though....

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Heeney is a fine player, but he's no match for Josh Dunkley

5

Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

.

 

[GreynRusty]

he cant make speeches like darcy moore though....

Nice work, its not easy to get in on Richmond denial with all these handbagers blocking the interwebz.

 

[Fadge]

I think rating him higher is fair, there isn't much he hasn't done now, but it shouldn't be determined on how Fagan and Longmire vote today

Where you rate them now should be the same you rate them 48 hours from now

That would be the logical, balanced view...

 

[Substance]

Fraud.
Was probably the worst on ground today, and easily the biggest disappointment of the game.

Watch him have 25 touches and four goals against North next year and people will talk him up, but he is worthless when it really matters.

He tore up 2 finals & copped a hard tag from Dunkley today. But sure yeah he's a fraud

 

[Glassjaw]

If you combine his stats from the 2022 and 2024 gf then surely he gets a pass? Maybe?

 

[Acinath]

He’s overrated. Second time he’s absolutely flopped when it’s counted.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

People are way too harsh.

His team was absolutely smoked. The opposition sacrificed a quality player just to stop his influence.

In those circumstances, it is up to his teammates who are given free reign to stand up (and then Heeney can do his part and likely ends up on the end of a few)

Heeney had a fantastic year and is one of the key reasons they got there in the first place. He dominated the first two finals, one in which he inspired a comeback such that if he wasn't there, they surely wouldn't have won.

 

[T2B_]

People are way too harsh.

His team was absolutely smoked. The opposition sacrificed a quality player just to stop his influence.

In those circumstances, it is up to his teammates who are given free reign to stand up (and then Heeney can do his part and likely ends up on the end of a few)

Heeney had a fantastic year and is one of the key reasons they got there in the first place. He dominated the first two finals, one in which he inspired a comeback such that if he wasn't there, they surely wouldn't have won.

As I've had to point out to people sinking the boots into Crippa sometimes, there's 22 blokes in a given team. One player, no matter how good, can sometimes only do so much especially when their team is being flogged.

 

[Markfs]

Nice work, its not easy to get in on Richmond denial with all these handbagers blocking the interwebz.

that went way over my head...i'm a very simple man with simple posts

 

[GreynRusty]

that went way over my head...i'm a very simple man with simple posts

We all are. Thats why we are all here! Except for the ladies!

 

[Lunchtime]

Fraud.
Was probably the worst on ground today, and easily the biggest disappointment of the game.

Watch him have 25 touches and four goals against North next year and people will talk him up, but he is worthless when it really matters.

No doubt Heeney is a really good player but what separates players like Martin, Judd, Ablett Jnr and Dangerfield is that they find a way including in Finals too.

Heeney was quiet today. Had to be better when it mattered most.

 

[RUNVS]

He apparently went into the game with a bad ankle and he injured his ankle a lot more near the end of the first quarter when he tackled someone.

 

[GreynRusty]

All of the above.

Kudos to Richmond, they peaked at the right time.

Despite scraping into the top 4 in all of their premiership years, who were their strongest opposition?

The GWS, Geelong and Collingwood teams of the time? The latter two teams fielding solid though not outstanding teams that were far inferior to the better teams they have fielded since the turn of the century.

Hurt still fresh? Dont give up. You may convince yourself one day. It must be comforting with all those handbagerz in group therapy at least.

 

[Dangas]

Heeney was poor and well-tagged. Credit to Dunkley. Assess the team as a whole, they were god-awful.

Even if Heeney fired today, we were not winning.

 

[The King!]

Unfortunately played his poor final in the biggest game, but wowzers he carried the lads in the other 2 finals, perhaps if one other mid turned up today he could have gone forward.
Not excusing him but he had a few more credits than some