I'll Kill You -Goodwin article

[Ford Fairlane]

Your right. It does amount to news. But it could also be argued that the sexual assult of a young girl by 3 Sth Australian footballers also would seem pretty newsworthy. But I don't recall seeing front page and 2-3 pages on that incident.

As for Goodwin and co., pretty stupid thing to do. Especially when you consider our daily rag has been gunning for anti-Crows material for a few years now.

You won't buy an argument from me about the sort of tabloid paper the Advertiser has become. The trouble is, its tabloid, one paper status means this sort of story will be front page news - the minute a hand was laid on one of their employees - in daylight, in a public street, in front of witnesses - that's what it became. As others have said, they sent Rebekah Devlin out ... it was only ever going to be a fluff piece, but Goodwin blew it up through his actions. This is the dark side of the cult of personality that tabloids pursue. You see it in the British papers except they're light years 'ahead' when it comes to that. They will create news ... in this case it was created for the tiser.

Just on the definition of assault Macca ... from here

Words only and Assault

Words alone do not amount to an assault. So a person could threaten to kill someone else and this would not attract criminal liability for assault. It may, however, be grounds for the other person to rely upon to obtain an Apprehended Violence Order. If made over the phone or internet, it would amount to an offence under the telecommunications law. However, it would not amount to assault. There is no such law relating to verbal assault. For such words to amount to an assault there must be some corresponding physical action by the accused.

The words, taken with the physical action, may then amount to an assault. For the offence to be made out in these circumstances the accused must be able to carry out the threat immediately. So if the accused, who is in Sydney, rang a person who is in Broken Hill and threatened to shoot them, then this would not amount to an offence. The reason for this is that the threat could not be carried out immediately after the threat had been made. However, if the threat, made over the phone from one house to a house next door and the gun was being pointed out of a window by the accused, then this would amount to an assault because the threat is able to be carried out immediately upon the making of the threat.

In a street situation, again a threat by an accused to belt a person not accompanied with any physical action would not be an assault even though the victim may apprehend that violence. However, if the accused held his fists up in a boxing pose while he said the words and was in the near presence of the victim, then the assault would be complete.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

oops, double posted.

 

[noddy]

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SpringChoke - You seem to be forgetting an Adelaide Crows listed player at the time was alledgedly involved in said alledged incident a few years ago.

It was the brother of an AFC listed player who was allegedly involved in the alleged incident some years ago.

 

[noddy]

oops, double posted.

We forgive you.

 

[Alex99]

It was the brother of an AFC listed player who was allegedly involved in the alleged incident some years ago.

No, Noddy the brother just paid the money to keep it quiet. He was a listed player (not sure if he was listed at the time but was involved)

 

[Mong]

Great stuff Simon. I never thought you had that in you.

For some reason I find this whole incident quite funny.

 

[noddy]

No, Noddy the brother just paid the money to keep it quiet. He was a listed player (not sure if he was listed at the time but was involved)

I stand corrected.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

No, Noddy the brother just paid the money to keep it quiet. He was a listed player (not sure if he was listed at the time but was involved)

Perhaps we can now look forward to Sprinchoke ceasing to raise this issue every time a Crows player gets into a bit of bother.

 

[UpsideOut]

These "articles" are an absolute disgrace. Personally I see them as the beginning of a witch hunt that's probably going to span the ages because this 'news'paper has nothing better to do with its time than report on scandal and the personal lives of others.

Mark my words, this is going to be repeated every single time Simon Goodwin does something remotely interesting. 'Crows star Simon Goodwin, who last year assaulted an Advertiser photographer ... ' Its exactly what they did with Wayne Carey. Every time his name was brought up we were 'reminded' of his off field frivolity - thankyou Captain Obvious, where would we be without you! Its as if all they want to do is remind their readers (who I will no longer be one of) what these people have done and paint them in a bad light. Point and laugh, we remember what YOU did last summer..

Its ridiculous and down right degenerative to have something like this plastered across the front page of the biggest newspaper in the state. Like others have said before me, if this is the best thing they can come up with its no wonder so many people see Adelaide as an absolute joke.

My thoughts are with Goody and his family. No one needs this, especially a day out from Christmas. Everybody's human and yes he probably could have handled it better, but this is beyond a joke.

 

[pjcrows]

i want to make a few points before i never talk about the advertiser again.

firstly, what were we all expecting? the advertiser is a crap newspaper. their stories are either tabloids or advertising. hence, it is called 'the advertiser'. throw all the big words and comparisons at it that you want... the bottom line is it is a crap newspaper and not worth the dollar you pay for it.

secondly, this devlin woman is a young journalist looking for a good story. she happened to be the one who got the story, and they ran it for her, knowing full well that it would get a response. in the mid-1990's, a cool thing called journalistic intergrity went out the door. the advertiser is now such a regularly sold paper that they can report anything, anywhere, anytime, no matter how irrelevant or meaningless. it also helps when the dimwitted adelaide public buys the paper when they see these pathetic headlines.

finally, don't buy the advertiser. i haven't bought it since mid-august and and found other news sources or gone without news and you know what... it's fine. we have heard so much ******** from it, we know it is a crap newspaper, we whinge every time they overblow an incident or report irrelevant stories, so DON'T BUY IT.

to summarise, i pose this:

would you buy an apple if it was mouldy, out-of-date and infested with worms?
no, of course not. you would choose another variety of fruit, perhaps a fresh mango or peach with taste and substance.

i think you get my drift...

 

[Damp Squarie]

After a call from the public alerting The Advertiser to unruly behaviour by some of the players, Schmaal went to the hotel about 9.35am but did not enter and remained on the public footpath at all times.

Wonder who that coulda been....wasnt you was it Macca19

 

[Alex99]

These "articles" are an absolute disgrace. Personally I see them as the beginning of a witch hunt that's probably going to span the ages because this 'news'paper has nothing better to do with its time than report on scandal and the personal lives of others.

Mark my words, this is going to be repeated every single time Simon Goodwin does something remotely interesting. 'Crows star Simon Goodwin, who last year assaulted an Advertiser photographer ... ' Its exactly what they did with Wayne Carey. Every time his name was brought up we were 'reminded' of his off field frivolity - thankyou Captain Obvious, where would we be without you! Its as if all they want to do is remind their readers (who I will no longer be one of) what these people have done and paint them in a bad light. Point and laugh, we remember what YOU did last summer..

Its ridiculous and down right degenerative to have something like this plastered across the front page of the biggest newspaper in the state. Like others have said before me, if this is the best thing they can come up with its no wonder so many people see Adelaide as an absolute joke.

My thoughts are with Goody and his family. No one needs this, especially a day out from Christmas. Everybody's human and yes he probably could have handled it better, but this is beyond a joke.

Maybe but I think in a few days this will be forgotten about as they Advertiser will find some other which hunt to incriminate the AFC about.

No offence to Simon Goodwin but Wayne Carey was a bit bigger name in AFL circles than Simon Goodwin and the incidents are kind of askew from each other. Wayne Carey did have relations with his best mates wife and was the best player in the best side at the time.

 

[Damp Squarie]

These "articles" are an absolute disgrace. Personally I see them as the beginning of a witch hunt that's probably going to span the ages because this 'news'paper has nothing better to do with its time than report on scandal and the personal lives of others.

Mark my words, this is going to be repeated every single time Simon Goodwin does something remotely interesting. 'Crows star Simon Goodwin, who last year assaulted an Advertiser photographer ... ' Its exactly what they did with Wayne Carey. Every time his name was brought up we were 'reminded' of his off field frivolity - thankyou Captain Obvious, where would we be without you! Its as if all they want to do is remind their readers (who I will no longer be one of) what these people have done and paint them in a bad light. Point and laugh, we remember what YOU did last summer..

Its ridiculous and down right degenerative to have something like this plastered across the front page of the biggest newspaper in the state. Like others have said before me, if this is the best thing they can come up with its no wonder so many people see Adelaide as an absolute joke.

My thoughts are with Goody and his family. No one needs this, especially a day out from Christmas. Everybody's human and yes he probably could have handled it better, but this is beyond a joke.

I fully concur; the ironic thing is that this will bond the team in a mindset that could only be descibed as "focus".

Tis the season to be jolly after all.

 

[pjcrows]

I make 2 predictions:-

1. Goodwin will win the Brownlow
2. This story will be forgotten when a fire engulfes the Adelaide Hills next week (sorry, but it's probably going to happen, and is what they SHOULD be reporting on)

 

[Dogwatcher]

Rebekah's a nice girl. Leave her alone!

 

[pjcrows]

Rebekah's a nice girl. Leave her alone!

i'm sure she is, no jibes at her as a person. she just can't write a good story for sh*t.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Don't normally respond to these threads BUT

Everyone says should not / will not buy the Advertiser

But you will Adelaide fans because it's your main source of footy info on the Adelaide Crows - they have got you by the proverbial

And I'll wager that nearly everyone got a copy of the paper today to view the article - and then complain...................but why complain the paper is simply satisfying your need for info on the Crows.

If that info is generated by the reporter, as it has this case , they only do it because you will do what you have done and that is buy the paper.

Same argument as Rucci - everyone complains about him but everyone reads his articles.

Contoversy and sex sells!

 

[Wallace]

Rebekah's a nice girl. Leave her alone!

I am sure she is. Simply pointing out that she is a reporter, usually writes glam, gossip, "have you heard" type stories in a very average paper.

 

[pjcrows]

Don't normally respond to these threads BUT

Everyone says should not / will not buy the Advertiser

But you will Adelaide fans because it's your main source of footy info on the Adelaide Crows - they have got you by the proverbial

And I'll wager that nearly everyone got a copy of the paper today to view the article - and then complain...................but why complain the paper is simply satisfying your need for info on the Crows.

If that info is generated by the reporter, as it has this case , they only do it because you will do what you have done and that is buy the paper.

Same argument as Rucci - everyone complains about him but everyone reads his articles.

Contoversy and sex sells!

i disagree. i didnt buy the paper. i was actually at woolworths this morning and saw the headline from a distance, i thought it was about an axe-murderer (and now reading the article on this thread, it seems like goodwin did kill this guy with an axe!).

but seriously, you say that the advertiser is adelaides only source of football news? come on, man.

 

[eastaugh36]

Don't normally respond to these threads BUT

Everyone says should not / will not buy the Advertiser

But you will Adelaide fans because it's your main source of footy info on the Adelaide Crows - they have got you by the proverbial

And I'll wager that nearly everyone got a copy of the paper today to view the article - and then complain...................but why complain the paper is simply satisfying your need for info on the Crows.

If that info is generated by the reporter, as it has this case , they only do it because you will do what you have done and that is buy the paper.

Same argument as Rucci - everyone complains about him but everyone reads his articles.

Contoversy and sex sells!

As an Essendon supporter, I stay clear of it. I will buy it on Fridays for the sanfl teams and the racing pages. I borrow them elsewhere for the other days and I rarely see anything in it that is worth the $1 except for Fridays when it is ok. Herald Sun is better, it is not full of advertising and they have in depth stories, not small articles.

 

[ExpectToWin]

Good on ya Simon.

Its about time these media parasites went and got some real news stories.

 

[pjcrows]

this shows just how backward and small adelaide really is

 

[*PAF]

Do not blame the Tiser too much peoples.
These type of things would make headlines no matter what country or what sport the players are involved in.
It happened to Gazza only recently.
What about top line footballers or Basketball players in the US?
Other soccer players in England, Spain, Italy or Germany be they first or even second division players?

Being high profile does have some benefits (having fun by doing what you like AND being paid handsomely for it amongst other things), but it does bring a few responsibilities with the territory. The players pucked up.
Time to get on and build bridges for them plus like Craigy said use it as a learning experience. However defending them by blaming the Tiser is not right.

On the parking inspector not suing, how can he if he doesn't know who did it?
Harmless type of prank I know, but a person should be able to go out to earn a living for himself and family and do his job without having to put up with that sort of crap shouldn't one?

 

[pjcrows]

These type of things would make headlines no matter what country or what sport the players are involved in

disagree there, mate. sort of well-known sportsman pushes a photographer? i'm sorry, but that wouldn't be headline news in most parts of the world. it highlights our ignorance and inferiority complex, actually.

 

[Sheeds]

I agree a mountain out of a molehill but it is still a bit of a concern.

Im not just talking about this situation in isolation, the binge drinking culture that exists in general society not just footballers.

Obviously Goodwin has made an error and this will be forgotten in no time but still an incident you would rather not take place.