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Ross is saying season over for Tabs is a real possibility
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Do mean Cox the guy that forced Tabs out of RTB, preferred side. I think Cox needs a break he had a pretty significant HammyGood to see Hill back with the boys. This Taberner injury has given Cox and McCarthy a lifeline, if neither of them can perform it's goodbye to both of them in my opinion.
Big break. He hasn’t had a solid recovery. Weird timeline. Two weeks at Peel, I think it was, then in against GWS. Then two weeks at Peel as a CHB, then back against Richmond. Hardly convenient injury management. Forced to play different roles for Peel then comes in and play the opposite for Fremantle. Where do we want to play him? First it was CHB at Peel because of Tabs/Hogan’s form but now it’s FF because of McCarthy’s poor form.Do mean Cox the guy that forced Tabs out of RTB, preferred side. I think Cox needs a break he had a pretty significant Hammy
After the bye essentially - fingers crossed we may have some good competition for spots fwd/mid with bennell, ballas and hill scheduled back around the same timeHow far off is Ballas from being ready for selection ?
Yep , another wasted 12 mths of development for tabsTaberner out for the year, guess we’re going to the mid season draft.
I don't mind your opinion on here.McCarthy have had the benefit of playing third tall/medium forward with Hogan and Tabs. Not only that, he regressed back to his poor form and manages minimal impact. So unless he makes a consistent 2-3 goal effort, no cannot have confidence in him. Knows he has to turn up, and even at Peel level he’s off the pace. His credits are shrinking, fast.
North tbh should get a chance this week. Cerra should be rested but two more games then bye, so probably going to be pushed through the next fortnight. Tom North is something interesting. Reckon he could slot in no worries.
That’s exactly it. Consistency. The fact he’s not kicking a goal a game due to Hogan and Tabs suggest he isn’t working hard enough or not taking advantage.I don't mind your opinion on here.
I don't think McCarthys credits are sinking fast. 10 goals from 6 games isn't too bad. I can see why you are worried. After that 5 goal game vs North in Round 1, he has followed by 2 goals, then 1, then 2 goals, then 2 goalless games.
Had he kicked 3 vs North then kicked 2 last week, you at least could say he had consistency with his 10 goals from 6 games.
I have Said this before and will say this again. I don't care if Rory Lobb gets double teamed or triple teamed in the goal square. If that frees up cam to kick 3-5 goals then that's fine.
I mean Freos last win was vs the dogs. Freo kicked 13.10.88. Matera kicked 5. I don't expect freo to kick 16-18 goals each week. I do expect freo to win kicking 13-14 goals. We have the forward talent to get a decent spread of goals.
As I said Tom North should of got a game last season. If Cerra or Brayshaw are either sore or tired, rest one of them. I don't mind North rotating from the bench into the midfield and forward flank.
I personally haven't seen him play, As I live in Adelaide. So I assumed some dockers that go to peel games, seen him play a few games of him getting 20 disposals a game.
Confused. Said at the start that he’s out for 10 weeks, then says he’s out for the season."Matthew had an MRI on Tuesday which indicated at that stage that he had a stress reaction in his left foot, ruling him out for eight weeks," general manager of football operations Peter Bell said.
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"However, a follow-up CT scan subsequently confirmed that he had suffered a stress fracture in the foot.
"As a result, Matthew will miss the rest of the season, and be moved from the club's primary list to the inactive list.
"It's disappointing for Matthew and the club, but we know from how he has coped with a long-term injury previously that he will work diligently and professionally on his rehabilitation and be ready for day one of the 2020 pre-season."
And this is the thing about freos season in the last 2-3 years. And I know people are going to be angry and frustrated in what I will say next. I think we are heading for another 8 win season.That’s exactly it. Consistency. The fact he’s not kicking a goal a game due to Hogan and Tabs suggest he isn’t working hard enough or not taking advantage.
We’ve always wanted 2 or 3 more goals a goal during Ross’ time. 10-12 goals isn’t enough. So now that we have a better spread of Forwards, should be pushing that 13-15 goal mark as the aim. Somethings up with the game plan that we’ve only kicked 24 goals in 3 weeks. Sure we get it inside 50, but the way we do it isn’t effective
Very convenient really. RTB shot down Sandy being put on the LTI list at his press conference and now what should be 10 weeks has turned into the season!Confused. Said at the start that he’s out for 10 weeks, then says he’s out for the season.
My bad. MRI said stress reaction then CT said stress fracture. Didn’t he have this last season. 10 weeks anyway?
Two things I think might ameliorate that this season Freomaniac. Firstly, when Tabs went down last year our options for key forwards were Cox and McCarthy. This year we have Hogan, Cox, McCarthy and if we bring in another ruckman Lobb can play forward as well - that's pretty reasonable coverage.And this is the thing about freos season in the last 2-3 years. And I know people are going to be angry and frustrated in what I will say next. I think we are heading for another 8 win season.
If you look how freo went in 2017 and 2018, you can see where this is heading. 1st 10 games we play competitive footy despite some minor injuries in the 1st month.
After the half way point or the bye, more injuries to senior players happen and he play the kids in which playing youth is good, some youth run out of energy after half time or 3 quarter time.
We also get some nasty thrashings late in the season in which I fear will happen again.
You would hope Darcy, cox and Logue as 3rd year players would step up now. Darcy is injured, Logue just came back because of injury. Cox is serviceable. Ryan has Been brilliant. Duman and Nyhuis has been in and out of the team as well.Two things I think might ameliorate that this season Freomaniac. Firstly, when Tabs went down last year our options for key forwards were Cox and McCarthy. This year we have Hogan, Cox, McCarthy and if we bring in another ruckman Lobb can play forward as well - that's pretty reasonable coverage.
The second thing is the late season thrashings have, as you say, been brought about because we were playing lots of inexperienced kids. This has a two fold negative impact - the kids get tired, and because they can't run play full game minutes it put more presure on the more mature guys, whi then suffer injuries and general wear and tear. This year we have brought in some extra mature bodies in Hogan, Lobb, Conca and Colyer so we are not having to playe so many kids. The kids we are playing have had an extra pre-season, so are better conditioned to run out games and the season. Then we are getting guys back late in the season like Connor Blakely, Stephen Hill, Griffin Logue and Ballas (I'm not even going to mention Sandi or HB) and they can come in to give the younger guys a spell. All this says to me we should not fall off a cliff later in the season the way we have in the last two years.
Apart from the failure to find even a modicum of system in the forward line, my main concerns are Adam Cerra who seems to be suffering second year blues big time, and Colyer who was brought in to provide a mature body but had been an abject failure to this point.
I'd be resting Cerra for a couple of weeks and hopefully freshening him up - leave Colyer at Peel until he either finds form or stamps his ticket as definite depth only.
That’s exactly it. Consistency. The fact he’s not kicking a goal a game due to Hogan and Tabs suggest he isn’t working hard enough or not taking advantage.
We’ve always wanted 2 or 3 more goals a goal during Ross’ time. 10-12 goals isn’t enough. So now that we have a better spread of Forwards, should be pushing that 13-15 goal mark as the aim. Somethings up with the game plan that we’ve only kicked 24 goals in 3 weeks. Sure we get it inside 50, but the way we do it isn’t effective
Is it on the same foot? That would be damaging if true. Didn’t really monitor it. However they did mention he changed his running stylevSounds like Tabs previous injury wasn't managed well. Having suffered from stress fractures myself due to not listening to physio and pushing too hard on the foot, it is a problem that can arise easily. Wonder what our medical department is up to sometimes.
Dixon and Valente not playing WAFL. Injured? Why the **** don’t can’t we be honest with our injury list! The supporters are just treated like ****.
Do you know what Valente's injury issue is?Primarily because at this stage they aren't 100% of what the issue is with Luke.
He went and got scans yesterday. So when the injury list came out on Tuesday there was no information to give and also when guys are getting managed they aren't technically injured which up until Tuesday was the case.
Its not treating supporters like **** in any way. If theres no clear info to give they can't go and give an update can they....
I think many are just frustrated with injuries that seem to be managed into longer term problems.Primarily because at this stage they aren't 100% of what the issue is with Luke.
He went and got scans yesterday. So when the injury list came out on Tuesday there was no information to give and also when guys are getting managed they aren't technically injured which up until Tuesday was the case.
Its not treating supporters like **** in any way. If theres no clear info to give they can't go and give an update can they....
Dixon and Valente not playing WAFL. Injured? Why the **** don’t can’t we be honest with our injury list! The supporters are just treated like ****.
Thanks for this. It really is embarrassing reading the little snipes of some supporters sometimes.Primarily because at this stage they aren't 100% of what the issue is with Luke.
He went and got scans yesterday. So when the injury list came out on Tuesday there was no information to give and also when guys are getting managed they aren't technically injured which up until Tuesday was the case.
Its not treating supporters like **** in any way. If theres no clear info to give they can't go and give an update can they....