Opinion INTERNATIONAL Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

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It's laughable the whataboutism shit.

Taking a still from a vid at a perfect time without any context at all...AND IT'S WITH HIS LEFT ARM LOLOLOL The Hitler Nazi salute is always right arm.

" was used as a greeting in Nazi Germany. The salute is performed by extending the right arm from the shoulder into the air with a straightened hand."


LOLOL Eagleboy2011 you've been sucked in yet again. You make a perfect Trumpite!

All I think it shows is how ****ing stupid they are?

Remember we are dealing with people who are belong average IQ.
 
Anyone who actually doesn't think Musk is racist would believe these are snow cones...

Well, really, I'm with P&O on this one. They are nowhere near KKK costumes (no flowing gowns, etc.) and what is the relevance of KKK in an Australian situation, anyway? This impression was clearly not intended.
 

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Well, really, I'm with P&O on this one. They are nowhere near KKK costumes (no flowing gowns, etc.) and what is the relevance of KKK in an Australian situation, anyway? This impression was clearly not intended.
Nowhere near KKK costumes?

Assume you are joking.
 
Hitler stole it from Mussolini.
Maybe .. fact remains it hilarious watching folk twisting themselves into pretzels trying to explain away Elmo's salute as anything other than fascist

I'm starting to feel like a lot of people who've been firmly in the trump/musk camp are feeling slightly uncomfortable with some of their behaviours

Clearly its easier to try and convince themselves these actions are benign and are being taken out context than confront the truth
 
Maybe .. fact remains it hilarious watching folk twisting themselves into pretzels trying to explain away Elmo's salute as anything other than fascist

I'm starting to feel like a lot of people who've been firmly in the trump/musk camp are feeling slightly uncomfortable with some of their behaviours

Clearly its easier to try and convince themselves these actions are benign and are being taken out context than confront the truth
I think Kirky is right on this one, for a change. The video tells an unflattering story, given the violent thrusting leading to the salute. The still is ambiguous.
 
Nowhere near KKK costumes?

Assume you are joking.
Not at all. Compare them to real KKK costumes. If any costume store sold these as KKK costumes, they should return the hiring fee.

I'll ask you a question: did these people really think they were KKK costumes, and if so, what were they trying to accomplish?
 
Well, really, I'm with P&O on this one. They are nowhere near KKK costumes (no flowing gowns, etc.) and what is the relevance of KKK in an Australian situation, anyway? This impression was clearly not intended.
Sydney Morning Herald says all you need to know.
 
I think Kirky is right on this one, for a change. The video tells an unflattering story, given the violent thrusting leading to the salute. The still is ambiguous.
Looks remarkably similar to to this salute being performed by Blood Tribe - a neo-nazi group that's become prominent in the south of the US

Do you recognise the flags in the video on the left?

 
Not at all. Compare them to real KKK costumes. If any costume store sold these as KKK costumes, they should return the hiring fee.

I'll ask you a question: did these people really think they were KKK costumes, and if so, what were they trying to accomplish?
Unbelievablely naive if they didn't realise they look like the KKK. If you can't see the similarities, I really can't help you as 1st thing that would come to most people's mind

What's the chances they all live under a rock...
 
Sydney Morning Herald says all you need to know.
Do you think the costumes were appropriate?

Have no problem that many were upset & have complained?

You are so biased by news source... as content is irrelevant. BTW, this has been reported on most news including your beloved SkyNews... so are they all wrong?

 
Yeh, never worry about the message, just have a go at the messenger (SMH). Typicial.
Was reported by every major news source, including his beloved SkyNews, so may be he will change his mind now lol.
 

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Anyone who actually doesn't think Musk is racist would believe these are snow cones...

Given that most of the staff (including those wearing the costumes) on P&O ships are from islands in the Pacific - a lot of Vanuatuans, Fijians, Filipinos & Indonesians, it probably wasn't intended to be KKK outfits.

But "upside down icecream cones"? WTF?
 
Unbelievablely naive if they didn't realise they look like the KKK. If you can't see the similarities, I really can't help you as 1st thing that would come to most people's mind

What's the chances they all live under a rock...
Honestly... most Filipinos, Vanuatuans, Fijians & Indonesians would have never heard of the KKK - let alone known how to dress up like the KKK.

Absolutely shocking for the (mostly Australian) passengers who would have made the KKK connection instantly - but I doubt the crew wearing the costumes had any idea what they looked like.
 
One interesting discussion point in the maga thread is Bidens pardons. Biden pardoned non violent drug offenders which boosted his total by thousands. But as usual those in the MAGA thread are convinced the way they discuss things is correct. Like SP who thinks his unresearched conclusions make him correct and its up to you to prove him otherwise, of course you are a leftist for pointing out a fact and and if its true he slinks away in and ignores you. Oh but as a coward, goes through your entire posting history to find a few things you got wrong anf then posts them like his some sort of know it all hero.
 
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This level of denial over even a description that is going out of its way to be mild and fence sitting is really getting to 2+2=5 and you must truly believe this level.

Anyone that tells you I did what I did and shows a video of me doing it is obviously lying about this and probably everything else so you should really just trust me and what I say.

Everyone saw what he did and everyone had the same first thought about what it was.

If you can talk yourself out of that good luck to you.

I think a lot of people see it for exactly what it is but like it as edgy humour, and that’s probably a lot of Elon’s intent.

At the same time nazis saw it and rejoiced. They knew exactly what they saw. And usually great things don’t follow when those types feel emboldened.
 
I wonder if Trumps advisors have got into his head about tarrifs. Because he obviously prides himself on his associations with the business and corporate world. And i wonder if they have got in his ear about Canada and Mexico and other countries american industry deals with placing tarrifs on american products. He has delayed the implementation from day 1 to feb 1st. Could this be a sign of back tracking. Especially as the economy is doing well right now. Will he want to screw around with tarrifs and then have to explain the economic fall out?
 
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This level of denial over even a description that is going out of its way to be mild and fence sitting is really getting to 2+2=5 and you must truly believe this level.

Anyone that tells you I did what I did and shows a video of me doing it is obviously lying about this and probably everything else so you should really just trust me and what I say.

Everyone saw what he did and everyone had the same first thought about what it was.

If you can talk yourself out of that good luck to you.

I think a lot of people see it for exactly what it is but like it as edgy humour, and that’s probably a lot of Elon’s intent.

At the same time nazis saw it and rejoiced. They knew exactly what they saw. And usually great things don’t follow when those types feel emboldened.

It was a nazi salute. No question. He grew up in SA one of the most racist countries on the planet and he grew up during apartheid. I read somewhere his father was anti apartheid etc and helped with the movement to end it, (disclaimer I dont know if true) but that in no way means Elon feels the same way. And the salute should be questioned as its used by white supremacist groups everywhere. The fact he is blaming everyone else for fake news about it, suggests there must be an element of truth to it, Why do it? He has not performed that salute anywhere in the world at any time in any of his public speeches at media events for his companies. So yeah, why do it?

My guess is, he got carried away, thinks he is in power, performed the most derogatory solute in human history as a **** you to all non whites, and has been literally ripped apart behind the scenes and now he is in damage control for ****ing up. Probably got torn to shreds by his corporate teams and brand image advisors too. His companies are now at a massive risk.

If the fall out continues, I actually see him being removed....sorry quietly resigning his post at the doge to concentrate on his 'corporate enterprises'
 
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It was a nazi salute. No question. He grew up in SA one of the most racist countries on the planet and he grew up during apartheid. I read somewhere his father was anti apartheid etc and helped with the movement to end it, (disclaimer I dont know if true) but that in no way means Elon feels the same way. And the salute should be questioned as its used by white supremacist groups everywhere. The fact he is blaming everyone else for fake news about it, suggests there must be an element of truth to it, Why do it? He has not performed that salute anywhere in the world at any time in any of his public speeches at media events for his companies. So yeah, why do it?

My guess is, he got carried away, thinks he is in power, performed the most derogatory solute in human history as a **** you to all non whites, and has been literally ripped apart behind the scenes and now he is in damage control for ****ing up. Probably got torn to shreds by his corporate teams and brand image advisors too. His companies are now at a massive risk.

If the fall out continues, I actually see him being removed....sorry quietly resigning his post at the doge to concentrate on his 'corporate enterprises'

I encourage everyone on this forum to go to the US Election thread and see who is defending Elon Musk and ask them to justify it? because right now they are insulting this forum.
Here is Elmo's father discussing Elmo's maternal grandparents being card carrying nazis and emigrating from Canada to South Africa because of their admiration of the apartheid regime




He won't be removed .. he's the president now

Elmo has been actively endorsing and promoting AfD (Alternative for Germany), a far right political party with direct links to russia in their upcoming elections. In fact this party is so f*cked up and so far right, Marianne Le Penn's party in France (amongst others) wants nothing to do with them

You could literally go for hours discussing his admiration and promotion of fascists/nazi agendas, all under the guise of free speech
 
Here is Elmo's father discussing Elmo's maternal grandparents being card carrying nazis and emigrating from Canada to South Africa because of their admiration of the apartheid regime




He won't be removed .. he's the president now

Elmo has been actively endorsing and promoting AfD (Alternative for Germany), a far right political party with direct links to russia in their upcoming elections. In fact this party is so f*cked up and so far right, Marianne Le Penn's party in France (amongst others) wants nothing to do with them

You could literally go for hours discussing his admiration and promotion of fascists/nazi agendas, all under the guise of free speech


I would love to know SPs thoughts on this. Doesnt appear to be distancing himself from Musk.
 
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Think Nick Fuentes and other far right or fascist folk, they love it



Its amazing how disturbing politics in general is. If this happened just 10 years ago Musk would have been ripped apart as the most hated man in the world. Now people seem to borderline almost excuse it for a MAGAISM and how its somehow not what it looks like.
 
My take on Elon salute - although it clearly looks like it, I’m 90% sure he didn’t mean it with Nazi intentions (that’d be low for anyone)

But holy **** how could you not have the foresight to think about what you are actually doing on such a public platform

I don’t want someone with such lack of foresight, and plain silliness in actions, as one of the world’s highest-tier voices
 
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