Iran Conflict 2019 - ??

[Financialpanther]

I'm not supporting the guy who died. I just find it hypocritical that the US consider him a terrorist for supporting insurgents who attack US interests, while constantly supporting other insurgents who attack those they have a problem with.

US soldiers are targets in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. What's the common theme there? Why are they there controlling the oil, controlling factions, installing people favourable to them?

Can Iran bomb US Generals in who plot against their interests, and do so on US soil?

Fact is anybody who kills a US citizen in the middle east is a terrorist to the US. They just put them on a list and that is their justification.

This wasn't a terrorist leader that the world was against. He was a General of a sovereign nation who the US were not at war with. If he was to be assassinated for any actions that have killed Americans in the middle East, then American officials who do the same are surely fair game.

I used to see the US as wearing white hats and killing evil black hat wearers who I couldn't relate to. Now, I'm seeing a lot of grey hats and am cynical about the US as self appointed world police.

Iraq didn't invite them in to their capital to kill this guy. They just do as they want as though they own the whole planet.

They didn't run it by congress as required. That's why they spoke of an imminent threat and planning of attacks against the US. It's the only way they can bypass congress. Any plans they reveal now are going to smack of their WMD narrative for going into Iraq.

Trump broke the nuclear treaty with Iran for no reason, then sanctioned them and threatened to sanction other countries who did business with them. Why wouldn't Iran want them out of the Middle East?

All good though, the media love a war and the stocks of weapons manufacturers are surging suddenly.

Certainly shades of “Starship Troopers”

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Let's hope the Iranians don't follow American's own logic of pre-emptive strikes.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Certainly shades of “Starship Troopers”

with less attractive women

 

[Financialpanther]

Let's hope the Iranians don't follow American's own logic of pre-emptive strikes.

Or adopt the US’ definition of proportionate response.

 

[Taylor]

If he was behind the US Iraqi embassy attacks in the days prior, in a third party nation, then he is fair game.

Just as a US general working to have an attack on a Chinese interest in a third party nation getting a missile dropped on him is fair game. Usually these are never talked about openly in the media.

 

[Marcel Proust]

If he was behind the US Iraqi embassy attacks in the days prior, in a third party nation, then he is fair game.

Just as a US general working to have an attack on a Chinese interest in a third party nation getting a missile dropped on him is fair game. Usually these are never talked about openly in the media.

If he were behind those attacks, would he be in Bagdad to give a speech about politics? (where and apparently what he was doing a he was killed)

 

[Taylor]

If he were behind those attacks, would he be in Bagdad to give a speech about politics? (where and apparently what he was doing a he was killed)

That sounds like the perfect cover story to be there.

The intelligence agencies won't be releasing how they know he was involved, if he were.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

that would go down well eh

"What's the big deal about Country A assassinating Country B's general? "

Uneducated, ignorant, think the world is a video game. These people probably vote Liberal.

 

[Taylor]

"What's the big deal about Country A assassinating Country B's general? "

Uneducated, ignorant, think real life is a video game. These people probably vote Liberal.

Unless you've had actual conversations with people involved in this sort of work then you're behind the eight ball on it and your dislikes and opinions should be treated with the weight they deserve.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Unless you've had actual conversations with people involved in this sort of work then you're behind the eight ball on it and your dislikes and opinions should be treated with the weight they deserve.

You're the one with a stupid opinion. "Country B won't do anything about Country A's assassination... because I just feel they won't."

 

[Bomberboyokay]

"My OpInIoN iSn'T StUPid, i uSEd t0 CrEEp oN cHAt To tEh SolDierS iN SwAnBoURNE"

 

[Nathan32]

He was in charge of Iran's foreign policy. He had just arrived by plane from Syria or Lebanon. Presumably, he was there to speak to the Iraqi government.

This is a general who orchestrated the deaths of hundreds of US personnel, terrorist attacks and was planning to kill more US diplomats and personnel.

Iran needed to get the message that the US is the top dog and if they don't behave there will be consequences.

 

[Run n Spread]

JeanLucGoddard your thoughts? And here was Trump been a peace maker re n Korea. WTF is he doing here? Sure assinate the guy (questionable given the situation to begin with but fair call) but to tweet about it. Is he stupid? Perfect way to start ww3 How else would the Iranians take it? And they are not the problem in the ME. Go after Saudi Arabia

 

[Nathan32]

You're the one with a stupid opinion. "Country B won't do anything about Country A's assassination... because I just feel they won't."

This is not close to an even fight. Iran does have the ability to retaliate but the US with its military and economic might can inflict much greater pain and suffering on Iran. The US is just too powerful for Iran to take on.

 

[Nathan32]

JeanLucGoddard your thoughts? And here was Trump been a peace maker re n Korea. WTF is he doing here? Sure assinate the guy (questionable given the situation to begin with but fair call) but to tweet about it. Is he stupid? Perfect way to start ww3 How else would the Iranians take it? And they are not the problem in the ME. Go after Saudi Arabia

What do you guys think Iran can do to the US ? the US military is just far too powerful.

 

[Marcel Proust]

What do you guys think Iran can do to the US ? the US military is just far too powerful.

they could invade Israel

they would annoy the seppos

nukes would go flying however

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Iran needed to get the message that the US is the top dog and if they don't behave there will be consequences.

All I can do is hope that the United States eventually gets a response in kind one day. It has done too much for too long to too many people. I want it to answer for all of that and pay. And then pay some more. Ideally its policy-makers and the upper rungs of its military should pay the whole of this price, but we all know it's the ordinary person on the street who must pay in blood and treasure, those who deserve it most always pay the least.

F*ckers.

 

[DesertRoo]

What do you guys think Iran can do to the US ? the US military is just far too powerful.

I don’t know, block the straight of Hormuz, yanks might not care much but expect oil prices to jump to $3 or $4 a litre.

 

[darrenmorgan]

What do you guys think Iran can do to the US ? the US military is just far too powerful.

This is not some Iraq, Libya or Syria sitch for the Yanks, Iran has a serious army. Obviously nothing like the size of the USAF but certainly powerful enough to completely ****en trolley major parts of the region and/or some of America’s allies in it. Then of course there’s the Russia factor.

 

[DesertRoo]

This is not some Iraq, Libya or Syria sitch for the Yanks, Iran has a serious army. Obviously nothing like the size of the USAF but certainly powerful enough to completely fu**en trolley major parts of the region and/or some of America’s allies in it. Then of course there’s the Russia factor.

Add in China and a few South America countries.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Add in China and a few South America countries.

No country of note will be willing to risk their continued existence in the world to stand up for Iran.

Diplomatic objections and expressions of outrage will be all the foreign assistance they receive.

 

[DesertRoo]

No country of note will be willing to risk their continued existence in the world to stand up for Iran.

Diplomatic objections and expressions of outrage will be all the foreign assistance they receive.

I think your underestimating a country which redefined martyrdom.
With actions like trump did you’ve also got the risk of creating an Iraq, Iran alliance.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

I think your underestimating a country which redefined martyrdom.

What the Iranians do is their business. The rest of the world will probably see things the same way.

What we've seen since the advent of nuclear weapons is that great powers are hesitant to go to war with each other because the consequences are unforeseeable and potentially cataclysmic. Common sense and recent observed history suggests that Russia, China and any other country capable of making a difference will feel the same way and choose not to come to the military aid of Iran by engaging the US in open conflict.

With actions like trump did you’ve also got the risk of creating an Iraq, Iran alliance.

Probably.

 

[JW Frogen]

All out war is not going to happen.

For two reasons, Trump, unlike Obama or Bush has no nation building delusions, and so does not need to occupy Iran to punish her from air and sea, and Iran knows this and will attack via terror tactics and proxies.

Things are going to get more violent, but there will not be a war between the nation states in the way people fear.

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[Patrick Bullet]

I am amazed that there are so many experts in this thread!