Irish players at Richmond?

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What, if anything, are we doing about recruiting the best young talent from Ireland? Looks like other clubs are plundering the best players available while we are sitting on our hands doing nothing.

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/carlton-plunders-irish-teen-stocks/2007/10/23/1192941065450.html

Carlton plunders Irish teen stocks

CARLTON has secretly signed four Irish teenagers in a bid to unearth fresh international talent as part of the club's aggressive assault on the top half of the league ladder.

Having already lured the AFL's No. 1 player, Chris Judd, and secured a prized priority draft pick, the Blues have adopted a recruiting system in Ireland akin to the old form-four deals to persuade talented Gaelic footballers to commit to the Blues.

Carlton has also convinced 2007 all-Ireland finalist Michael Shields, 20, to fly to Melbourne next month to spend a pre-season with the Blues with a view to placing him on the senior list.

Carlton football operations manager Steven Icke flew into Dublin last night and was scheduled to meet the four junior Gaelic footballers, offering them $1600 apiece on the condition they choose the Blues should they decide to try to make the grade in AFL football.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou, who last week met a delegation from the Gaelic Athletic Association in Paris in a bid to resurrect the international rules series, said he was unaware of the Blues' Irish assault but believed there were no rules to prevent it.

"At the moment the AFL apprenticeship scheme, which can lead to overseas-scholarship players coming into the AFL, does not include Ireland but this is different," Demetriou said.

Carlton is understood to have spoken to four teenagers aged between 16 and 17 from four counties — Galway, Cork, Laois and Armagh. All have been outstanding junior players identified by the Blues' Irish recruiting consultant Gerard Sholle.

Icke and Carlton's new coach Brett Ratten left Italy yesterday following a fact-finding tour of high-profile European club Juventus with Ratten heading home to Melbourne and Icke completing the Irish deal.

The move could cause consternation in Ireland, which two years ago was threatening to call off the international rules series as a result of AFL clubs luring marquee players away from the local competition. However, a sense of inevitability appears to have prevailed over the GAA with Shields the fourth Gaelic footballer heading to AFL pre-season training this year.

Already Brendan Murphy, 18, has committed to the Sydney Swans with teenager Pierce Handley flying to train with Brisbane next month and Collingwood securing Kevin Dyas.

Not only is the international recruiting system another way of securing players outside the draft but the cultural similarities between the two countries, the athletic talent of leading Gaelic footballers and the lack of transfer fees makes the system even more attractive.

Carlton was famous for luring players from around Australia as a VFL club in the early 1980s, securing Craig Bradley, Stephen Kernahan and Peter Motley.

The money that changes hands with the Irish teenagers will be used to assist them in schooling and training.

The Brisbane Lions, meanwhile, look certain to have reached an agreement with the disgruntled Jared Brennan. Brennan, who had shown interest in playing for Essendon, is expected to re-sign on a three-year deal.
 

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We dont have a Pratt or a Eddie to fund something like this.

I don't think it's that expensive. It's just a matter of having some contacts in Ireland. I'm pretty sure the AFL will start introducing rules to regulate this international recruit pathway soon though, but in the meantime it's an open market, that Clubs like the Blues, Pies, Lions and Swans have been tapping into, effectively getting extra top-draft picks for free. The Tiges should be doing the same, and I'd be surprised if they haven't been making enquiries already. :)
 
I don't think it's that expensive. It's just a matter of having some contacts in Ireland. I'm pretty sure the AFL will start introducing rules to regulate this international recruit pathway soon though, but in the meantime it's an open market, that Clubs like the Blues, Pies, Lions and Swans have been tapping into, effectively getting extra top-draft picks for free. The Tiges should be doing the same, and I'd be surprised if they haven't been making enquiries already. :)
Expensive, hell we couldnt even afford a recruiting officer in Victoria, our man Miller the twat had that hat on, as well as his other 8 titles he has at Richmond.
 
i thought we already had an irish player on the books?:confused:

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perhaps we get our draft and recruiting area sorted here in oz first.....lets face it after another deplorable trade period and im waiting for the outrage come draft time...perhaps the would be recruiters might need a safe haven like ireland.
 
Why is it that we are only paoching the irish? why take some kids from other countries that have potential to play like some rugby kids from south africa or something like that?
 

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Why is it that we are only paoching the irish? why take some kids from other countries that have potential to play like some rugby kids from south africa or something like that?

I have alway's thought that the US could be a potential target to get some international rookies. The Gridiron guy's have alot of attributes that could carry over to AFL. It is a highly competitive industry with very few people ever getting the chance to play at the top level, so an AFL career (life as a pro sportsman) may apeal to some of the young guys.

You just have to look at the defensive coverage guy's (defend the wide receivers) to see how they could fit in. They are super quick, have good hands and there sole purpose is to spoil. I could see a player like this in a defensive role as a full back who can cover on a quick lead and also body out when the balls in the air. Sure they may not be able to kick but neither can half of the boy's on our list:eek:
 
I have alway's thought that the US could be a potential target to get some international rookies. The Gridiron guy's have alot of attributes that could carry over to AFL. It is a highly competitive industry with very few people ever getting the chance to play at the top level, so an AFL career (life as a pro sportsman) may apeal to some of the young guys.

You just have to look at the defensive coverage guy's (defend the wide receivers) to see how they could fit in. They are super quick, have good hands and there sole purpose is to spoil. I could see a player like this in a defensive role as a full back who can cover on a quick lead and also body out when the balls in the air. Sure they may not be able to kick but neither can half of the boy's on our list:eek:

Why would they want be a professional AFL player when they can earn ten times more playing NFL?
 
I have alway's thought that the US could be a potential target to get some international rookies. The Gridiron guy's have alot of attributes that could carry over to AFL. It is a highly competitive industry with very few people ever getting the chance to play at the top level, so an AFL career (life as a pro sportsman) may apeal to some of the young guys.

You just have to look at the defensive coverage guy's (defend the wide receivers) to see how they could fit in. They are super quick, have good hands and there sole purpose is to spoil. I could see a player like this in a defensive role as a full back who can cover on a quick lead and also body out when the balls in the air. Sure they may not be able to kick but neither can half of the boy's on our list:eek:

I share your thoughts there mate.
And surely not all young grid iron players hopeful of making the big time are doing it just for the money, wanting to be a professional sportsmen of the highest order must appeal to some?
 
I'm going over there next month for a wedding maybe Miller can slip me the cheque book before I go. They still play for a Guiness and sheppards pie over there so I'm confident I can entice some blokes over here with a bit of cash.
 
I have alway's thought that the US could be a potential target to get some international rookies. The Gridiron guy's have alot of attributes that could carry over to AFL. It is a highly competitive industry with very few people ever getting the chance to play at the top level, so an AFL career (life as a pro sportsman) may apeal to some of the young guys.

You just have to look at the defensive coverage guy's (defend the wide receivers) to see how they could fit in. They are super quick, have good hands and there sole purpose is to spoil. I could see a player like this in a defensive role as a full back who can cover on a quick lead and also body out when the balls in the air. Sure they may not be able to kick but neither can half of the boy's on our list:eek:

Do you remember the hype around Dwayne Armstrong, the former Oakland Raider, who spent a bit of time with Essendon around 1996? Quick, agile, tackled and spoilt superbly but was nowhere when the ball was in his hands. If blokes like Kellaway, Gaspar and Presti can't get a game in modern footy, then a purely defensive backmen from gridiron would have no chance.
 
We have some rich Richmond supporters who could lend us money to look at Irish players or become President, like John Il...Oh Wait.:eek:
 
I share your thoughts there mate.
And surely not all young grid iron players hopeful of making the big time are doing it just for the money, wanting to be a professional sportsmen of the highest order must appeal to some?

Gaelic footballers play a very similar sport which importantly involves kicking. Americans from a gridiron, basketball and baseball background will never have kicked a ball. Similarly most rugby players will never have kicked a ball.

The Gaelic football might be round, but at least those blokes have been kicking out of thier hands for 15 years before they try to adapt to our footy.

The other big problem is that most players of moderate talent will be on scholorships to college. They will be playing in that system until they are 22. That's very late to take up a new sport.

If anything you'd think that the Gridiron players would be attracted to the NRL. Wouldn't take too much for them to become forwards.
 

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