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Most clubs don't change coaches of winning teams.
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Most clubs don't change coaches of winning teams.
I havent seen McGuire ever stop trying to further the cause of the club. And there is no one better that has presented to take over. So having your little tantrums about things that don't go the way you want them, are exercises in futility.
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No they don't.
but regardless of all the circumstances, words, theories, at the end it's simple:
It was a coaching change.
Odds suggest that most coaching changes don't work. And that's where we are today. The rest can be discussed until the cows moo home.
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Ed's been great for the club but the succession plan has failed. Nothing to do with tantrums, it's a fact. I hope like hell that we return to the finals next year but if we don't then Ed also should take responsibility.
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16 years is long enough in any position. I agree with the OP. Time to give us an end date & perhaps groom a successor. Ed has done a great job financially & set us up for the future with facilities etc. but in the end it's just one flag in over 16 years while he has been President.
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You've been a Collingwood supporter for how long? He can do what he wants. He pretty much saved us.
jmac70
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Yep. Let's see how that plays out...
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Ed answers to the members. He doesn't own the club.
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It's not about names, it's about the system. At Hawthorn they change presidents and it goes unnoticed, they just keep winning. At Collingwood it's all about Ed. We need to move beyond this messiah complex and become a club that is supported by a professional constitution.
The richmond,melbourne and doggies presidents must be really ****ed then.
What are the alternatives, I think it will require someone to challenge for the role with a plan and an ability to win over the masses. I don't think he is going anywhere just yet, a bad year next year may see some cracks appear. Big year 2017 imho
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Ed has the best interests of our club at heart and makes decisions that he (and the board) think will benefit us and usually they do. We are now financially strong and have enjoyed reasonable success (made finals in 10 of 16 years including the flag and 4 GF appearances). The last 3 years have been disappointing however the future looks bright and we'll never know what might have happened if Malthouse had stayed on and kept the 2010/11 team together; it might have been better, might have been worse.
With Ed's passion and commitment there is no doubt he won't stay on if he thinks he's no longer the best person for the job. Personally, I think the next 5 years are going to be very good for us and Bucks and Ed will continue working together but if not, Ed will know when to go.
With Ed's passion and commitment there is no doubt he won't stay on if he thinks he's no longer the best person for the job. Personally, I think the next 5 years are going to be very good for us and Bucks and Ed will continue working together but if not, Ed will know when to go.
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We are the biggest club in the country with the largest supporter base, trust me there are some very successful businesses types out there who support us. Just because we don't know them does not mean they are not right for the job. I'm confident when the time comes and Ed steps down we will get a well connected smart operator as our next President
If we lose Eddie we will never get out of the mess we are in.
Spot on. Our fans haven't got a clue. We wanted Malthouse sacked and look where that got us now we are still not happy we want to destroy the club in to the ground .
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Other than that group who make some noise online about challenging him, but never do anything about it in real life, is there anyone else stepping up - and more importantly, anyone who can actually do the job?
I do think that Eddies time is approaching its end - however we're not there yet.
If we continue to decline over the next year or two then he should, and hopefully will, step down.
If we continue to improve and win a flag between now and the end of the decade, then I would absolutely love him to be able to step down with us on top.
I do think that Eddies time is approaching its end - however we're not there yet.
If we continue to decline over the next year or two then he should, and hopefully will, step down.
If we continue to improve and win a flag between now and the end of the decade, then I would absolutely love him to be able to step down with us on top.
The only issue with this is that the agreement was reached before 2010, we hadn't won a premiership since 1990 all parties were in agreement. The only person not to honor their side of the agreement was the then coach MM. MM was supposed to be there to oversee football operations, he didn't.
I am not personally looking forward to the day that Ed steps down and I'm pretty sure I won't be until or unless someone comes along to challenge who can show the members clearly how he can do a better job. I'm certainly not in favour of Eddie grooming anyone for the role because I don't believe that it's his job nor his choice. Such things are a choice for the members and I believe it's necessary for the role to be fought for, not passed on to some anointee.
As far as taking responsibility for the succession plan goes I reckon he has shown by his actions that he will do what it takes to get things right. I'm pretty sure that he recognises that the plan was put in place on his watch and that it failed spectacularly but such things happen when dealing with personalities and egos. There's only a certain extent to which Ed and the board can be held accountable for the dishonesty and/or lack of integrity of past employees.
At this stage I see no reason for Ed to nominate an end date and I wouldn't want him to anoint a successor. When I can clearly see a better option for the club then I might be inclined to accept that it may be time. Until then, Eddie has my full support and from what I can see, the full support of the majority of the members.
It's a NO from me!
As far as taking responsibility for the succession plan goes I reckon he has shown by his actions that he will do what it takes to get things right. I'm pretty sure that he recognises that the plan was put in place on his watch and that it failed spectacularly but such things happen when dealing with personalities and egos. There's only a certain extent to which Ed and the board can be held accountable for the dishonesty and/or lack of integrity of past employees.
At this stage I see no reason for Ed to nominate an end date and I wouldn't want him to anoint a successor. When I can clearly see a better option for the club then I might be inclined to accept that it may be time. Until then, Eddie has my full support and from what I can see, the full support of the majority of the members.
It's a NO from me!
Can't say he isn't passionate and you always know he speaks with the best intent for the Club.
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