Expansion Is league in western sydney really that strong

[Professor Knowall]

Back to reality - Some here would believe that Australian Football is as good as non-existant in West Sydney, and has no profile at all.

But this is an example of the steady grass-roots growth in our Australian game. Look at who the major local paper 'The Penrith Press' awarded their Junior Sports Star of the Year for 2007. Thats right - a local junior Aussie Rules player -

http://www.penrithpress.com.au/article/2008/02/19/3752_news.html

"... The 15-year-old from Werrington Downs was selected from the strongest pool of talent in recent memory to be crowned Penrith Press Junior Sports Star of the Year last Wednesday night. ...

... Nick was named our Junior Sports Star after securing a scholarship with the Collingwood Magpies last year ...

 

[RUNVS]

... Nick was named our Junior Sports Star after securing a scholarship with the Collingwood Magpies last year ...

Bloody Collingwood. They are like a STD, you just cant get rid of them.

 

[jackmac7]

Bloody Collingwood. They are like a STD, you just cant get rid of them.

i can see a black south african playing AFL in a few years and I bet Collingwood get him.

 

[Professor Knowall]

Collingwood should ask to play their remaining 5 away games in West Sydney (after they get 6 in Carrara) before the new club starts - of course they just have good noble intentions to promote the code.

 

[RUNVS]

i can see a black south african playing AFL in a few years and I bet Collingwood get him.

Yep. They are infecting the world. First South Africa and now Penrith. Is nowhere safe from this scurge

 

[fabulousphil]

Back to reality - Some here would believe that Australian Football is as good as non-existant in West Sydney, and has no profile at all.

But this is an example of the steady grass-roots growth in our Australian game. Look at who the major local paper 'The Penrith Press' awarded their Junior Sports Star of the Year for 2007. Thats right - a local junior Aussie Rules player -

http://www.penrithpress.com.au/article/2008/02/19/3752_news.html

"... The 15-year-old from Werrington Downs was selected from the strongest pool of talent in recent memory to be crowned Penrith Press Junior Sports Star of the Year last Wednesday night. ...

... Nick was named our Junior Sports Star after securing a scholarship with the Collingwood Magpies last year ...

All good ....except the Collingwood bit.

 

[nescri]

All good ....except the Collingwood bit.

And this bit...

West Sydneys 'string bean' communinity has only now been 'tapped'. AFL will groom these folk (who the NBL cant afford) into professionals. Says jack sh*t about anything really.

 

[huntos]

And this bit...

West Sydneys 'string bean' communinity has only now been 'tapped'. AFL will groom these folk (who the NBL cant afford) into professionals. Says jack sh*t about anything really.

Lemons for breakfast?

 

[fabulousphil]

And this bit...

West Sydneys 'string bean' communinity has only now been 'tapped'. AFL will groom these folk (who the NBL cant afford) into professionals. Says jack sh*t about anything really.

WTF.... who cares, i dont want AR to suceed at leagues expense, if the stringbean community is tapped then league has nothing to fear.

posters on "both sides" are really stupid....get over it both games are here to stay ATM.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

WTF.... who cares, i dont want AR to suceed at leagues expense, if the stringbean community is tapped then league has nothing to fear.

posters on "both sides" are really stupid....get over it both games are here to stay ATM.

This can't be fabulousphil, one of the biggest trolls of all time to poke his face into Big Footies Rugby League forum.

What have you done to him, I don't like this new guy, i want the old one back.

Hahaha

(always knew you had a soft spot for RL)

 

[ssfc0203]

Western Sydney is full of "poor" people who can be easily swayed from what I am told and have read.

Its arguable, but then again it depends on which part of Western Sydney you are talking about.
The Western Sydney I associate with the AFL trying to break into is the Parramatta/Blacktown/Hills areas at first, and these are far from 'poor' people. Western Sydney are the suburbs of Sydney which are mainly constituted of young, professional families. At least, thats where I live .

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Originally Posted by Fitzcray View Post
Western Sydney is full of "poor" people who can be easily swayed from what I am told and have read.

Umm, OK.

"WHAT is the richest sport in Australia as measured by fan base? Rugby union is likely to be the first sport to jump to mind - all those tweed jackets, leather elbow patches, Range Rovers and merchant bankers would seemingly guarantee the No.1 spot.
But a new survey by data marketing group, Torque, has found while union certainly has more seriously rich fans, rugby league is Australia's richest sport.

This is partly because it has more fans in the nation's most populous and expensive state, but it's still good news for a code widely regarded as the sport of the working class.

Torque says rugby league is the richest sport in "terms of the total affluence of its supporter base" - just beating the Australian Football League.

Part of the reason for this is that average incomes in rugby league strongholds NSW and Queensland are higher than in southern AFL states such as Victoria and South Australia.

... It also raises the question of whether rugby league has been marketing itself to the right audience.

... The image of the game is not reflected by its fan base," Cooper says. "But it is surprising that rugby league is as mid-market as it is."

...rugby league has more than its fair share of executive, professional & managerial supporters the survey found.

Sorry the link is broken, but it was posted here 29-12-2005

 

[1908]

Originally Posted by Fitzcray View Post
Western Sydney is full of "poor" people who can be easily swayed from what I am told and have read.

Well that's it done then. Reasearch done and the official vedict is in. No need for the AFL to spend 100's of millions. Good job.

 

[Professor Knowall]

Umm, OK.

"WHAT is the richest sport in Australia as measured by fan base? ...But a new survey by data marketing group, Torque, has found while union certainly has more seriously rich fans, rugby league is Australia's richest sport

.... average incomes in rugby league strongholds ... Queensland are higher than in southern AFL states such as Victoria ...

... It also raises the question of whether rugby league has been marketing ...

...rugby league has more than its fair share of executive, professional & managerial supporters the survey found. "

LOL Thanks for the laugh, ParraEelsNRL. Who the f**k are "Torque"? Sounds like a survey you commissioned - and did - based on your wet dreams.

" ... rugby league is Australia's richest sport ..." . Yeah, sure it is.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Umm, OK.



LOL Thanks for the laugh, ParraEelsNRL. Who the f**k are "Torque"? Sounds like a survey you commissioned - and did - based on your wet dreams.

" ... rugby league is Australia's richest sport ..." . Yeah, sure it is.

Your name suits you, it would be better with a knownothing on the end though.

WNKER.

Ever heard of Google, try looking it up d!ck.

And by your response, you don't even understand anything they said, dopey southerners

 

[Doctor Jolly]

Yeah, that survey done 3 years ago has been widely discredited.

League itself markets to the working classes. The "collingwood" classes.

 

[RUNVS]

It doesnt matter which sport has the richer supporters. What matters is which sports supporters are willing to part with their hard earned cash and go to games. This is why 15 out of 16 AFL clubs made a profit last year and why several NRL clubs are millions of dollars in debt.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Yeah, that survey done 3 years ago has been widely discredited.

League itself markets to the working classes. The "collingwood" classes.

It has has it?

Care to share it.

Dr Jolly, more like Dr Wally.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

It doesnt matter which sport has the richer supports. What matters is which sports supporters are willing to part with their hard earned cash and go to games. This is why 15 out of 16 AFL clubs made a profit last year and why several NRL clubs are millions of dollars in debt.

Well I'm glad one AFL supporter can read what it said.

Not what they think it says.

Well done RUNVS.

 

[Doctor Jolly]

It has has it?

Care to share it.

I just did you morron.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

I just did you morron.

Good one Dr Wally, now get in the corner with Professor Knownothing.

 

[Aucklander]

and why several NRL clubs are millions of dollars in debt.

I missed that.

Got a link for that info?

 

[RUNVS]

I missed that.

Got a link for that info?

There was a article afew months ago saying that clubs like Penrith, Cronulla, St George and Parramatta were all in financial strife. I will look for the article.

And just afew days ago this is a story about the Newcastle Knights debt



Knights reeling from big losses

JOHN Singleton has slammed Newcastle for "doing business like it's the 1960s" after stunning revelations the club is facing insolvency.
The Knights are reeling from a $1,288,660 loss last year - a shortfall that has prompted auditors to declare the club's future "uncertain".

Singleton, the millionaire advertising guru whose beer label Bluetongue pours $675,000 a season into the Newcastle coffers, is not a happy man.

"There's no networking, no communication - it's like doing business in the 1960s. It's pure management incompetence," Singo stormed.

Newcastle's 2006-2007 annual report shows the Hunter flagship is battling to reconcile a $2.3 million deficit between its assets and liabilities.

The difference all but accounts for a $2.1 million reversal in fortunes from the previous financial year, when Newcastle recorded an $813,255 profit.

The effect of last season's miserable weather and team form on gate takings has been blamed for the downturn, but the report also reveals that Newcastle racked up an extra $1.55 million in football-related expenses from the previous year.

A six-figure payout to departed chief executive Ken Conway and legal advice incurred in the ongoing Kirk Reynoldson dispute is understood to have contributed to the spending explosion.

The financially unnerving outcome moved reporting auditor Crosbie Warren Sinclair to raise the prospect of insolvency in the report.

"Uncertainty exists as to whether the company (Newcastle Knights) will be able to continue as a going concern without the continued support of the company's members, crowd attendances, NRL funding, sponsors and the alliance with our commercial partners," the auditors wrote

"The board is continuing to monitor costs through budgeting and reviewing all expenditure and seeking out further opportunities for increased revenue.

"If the company is unable to continue as a going concern it may be required to realise assets and extinguish liabilities other than in the normal course of business and at amounts different to those stated in this financial report."

Operating without a licensed club grant or guarantee because of the recent collapse of its safety-net deal with Wests Newcastle, the Knights will lean heavily on sponsorship money to see them through the current crisis.

Singleton expressed little surprise upon learning of the club's dire finances, and he remains furious over last year's release of several players who appeared in Bluetongue advertising.

"We give them almost $700,000 a year, and they don't seem to give us anything in return," Singleton said.

Bluetongue is now in the third year of its five-season sponsorship, a "goodwill deal" Singleton has vowed to honour.

"We won't pull the plug but I want to make it clear that my support is for the players, not the board," he said.

Singleton is a member of influential Hunter-based business lobbyists, the White Knights.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23432339-23214,00.html

 

[Professor Knowall]

Your name suits you, it would be better with a knownothing on the end though. WNKER.

Devestating reply by the terrifed one!

Ever heard of Google, try looking it up d!ck. ...

You posted that piece of nonsense. Anyway, I looked it up and found it was a small Brisbane based company - that (surprise, surprise!) does/did work for "a rugby league club".

http://www.torque.com.au/casestudies/sport.pdf

So there you go - it was all just a puff piece for a paying NRL club client.

...you don't even understand anything they said, dopey southerners

Lets see - It says that Queenslanders earn more than Victorians. Someone better tell the ABS, they've got it all wrong!

And, oh yeah, your typical league crowd is made up of "executives, professional & managerial supporters ", and " ... rugby league is Australia's richest sport ...".

Thanks for the comedy, ParraNOID!

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Devestating reply by the terrifed one!



You posted that piece of nonsense. Anyway, I looked it up and found it was a small Brisbane based company - that (surprise, surprise!) does/did work for "a rugby league club".

http://www.torque.com.au/casestudies/sport.pdf

So there you go - it was all just a puff piece for a paying NRL club client.



Lets see - It says that Queenslanders earn more than Victorians. Someone better tell the ABS, they've got it all wrong!

And, oh yeah, your typical league crowd is made up of "executives, professional & managerial supporters ", and " ... rugby league is Australia's richest sport ...".

Thanks for the comedy, ParraNOID!

Founded in 2001, Torque is a fully independent company with offices in Sydney, Melbourne and Perth and a network of consultants that extends throughout the Asia Pacific region. The Torque team offers a combined total of over 200 years' data driven marketing experience, obtained through a wide ranger of client and marketing services environments.

Qld?

As usual Professor Knownothing, you post BS.