Is Todd Marshall a once in a generation key forward?

[ctpower]

I wish all our key forwards could take 10 marks and kick 2 goals whilst apparently not playing well

Not sure if you’ve seen the game yet Macca (I don’t mean that in a sarcastic way as I know your a small business owner with a lot on) but it wasn’t his best night.

I’d reckon he was okish at best but his stats are a bit misleading. There were a couple of efforts in the third qtr which if he had done better could resulted in a shot on goal if not by him then a team mate.

He could have and should have taken three more shots on goal himself but elected to pass to a team mate. My view on that is that a specialist forward should take responsibility and have the shot.

 

[Sneeky]

He's had a down year for sure, which is surprising considering how the team was flying for half the year.

However he did his part last night, like Macca said 10 marks 2 goals for someone that got a head knock early on and had to go off for checks. Can't knock that performance at all

 

[El_Scorcho]

Not sure if you’ve seen the game yet Macca (I don’t mean that in a sarcastic way as I know your a small business owner with a lot on) but it wasn’t his best night.

I’d reckon he was okish at best but his stats are a bit misleading. There were a couple of efforts in the third qtr which if he had done better could resulted in a shot on goal if not by him then a team mate.

He could have and should have taken three more shots on goal himself but elected to pass to a team mate. My view on that is that a specialist forward should take responsibility and have the shot.

I'm almost certain he's carrying a niggle. He's taken the sort of shots he was passing out plenty of times in his career. I think he's worried about distance and i'm guessing it's because of hamstring or quad niggle or something like that.

 

[ctpower]

I'm almost certain he's carrying a niggle. He's taken the sort of shots he was passing out plenty of times in his career. I think he's worried about distance and i'm guessing it's because of hamstring or quad niggle or something like that.

This could be true.
I took my son to watch port train before the Collingwood game and Marshall ran laps that night.
He may well be carrying something.

 

[El_Scorcho]

This could be true.
I took my son to watch port train before the Collingwood game and Marshall ran laps that night.
He may well be carrying something.

One of the passes he did was to Horne-Francis the same distance out at a very slightly improved angle. I thought at that point it had to be a niggle. I don't think he took a shot from 50, passed them all off. He's definitely slotted goals from 50 before.

 

[Powerade 08]

He might have tweaked something, can't remember but I think it was the Gold Coast game. Fell over 100m away from the play and stayed down for a long time.

 

[PatientMental]

He's carrying a hip injury.

Watch them let him play through it and call it a routine clean out

 

[Powerage]

You can do the exact same thing for boak or gray ffs.

Targeting Todd for passing it off when club greats have routinely done the same thing outs you for what you’re doing, looking for reasons to slam Marshall.

I'm not looking for reasons to slam Marshall. He had a good game. He could have had a great game if he had taken his shots. If he is indeed carrying a niggle well my bad. That would explain the passing off. He seemed to move ok though.

Your original statement was that he passed the ball off to players in better positions who should have kicked goals. That is what I have taken issue with. That was the only aspect of his performance that I was critical of. The only outing going on is that I proved your statement to be completely wrong. Twisting it into something else is sad.

IF Todd is fit, find me another example of a player who has passed off 3 of 6 set shots at goal in a match. Not Boak, not Gray. I'd argue that Boak should give off more set shots because since 2019 is GA% is 40%. Marshall, on the other hand, is an elite shot at goal.

 

[philthy05]

I'm not looking for reasons to slam Marshall. He had a good game. He could have had a great game if he had taken his shots. If he is indeed carrying a niggle well my bad. That would explain the passing off. He seemed to move ok though.

Your original statement was that he passed the ball off to players in better positions who should have kicked goals. That is what I have taken issue with. That was the only aspect of his performance that I was critical of. The only outing going on is that I proved your statement to be completely wrong. Twisting it into something else is sad.

IF Todd is fit, find me another example of a player who has passed off 3 of 6 set shots at goal in a match. Not Boak, not Gray. I'd argue that Boak should give off more set shots because since 2019 is GA% is 40%. Marshall, on the other hand, is an elite shot at goal.

players passing off instead of taking shots at goal is as pure a ****ing gripe on the port board for the past decade as we know. up there with conceding junk time goals. to pretend its a Todd problem is rewriting history.

its laughable that we still have posters ready on mass to run to threads to take Todd down. we have no other player who receives remotely 1/10th of the scrutiny he does from posters here.

 

[Enoch Blaze]

Hasnt been the same since the concussion.

Yeh the knocks haven’t been good I agree with this. Might need the pre season to refocus.

Great mark in the square.

Seems to be injured always passing off, started last week or two.

 

[Waspy79]

Float by here against my better judgement and no surprises old mate filthy01 still talking dross about this flaky player.

 

[Mr Experience]

A once in a generation forward? No

Potentially a very good 40-50 goal per year forward? Yes

 

[Peninsula Boy]

No, he is not a generational key forward like Buddy or Wayne Carey.

He has some great attributes though that need to be harnessed well.

He is strong on the lead, marks on the lead and kicks deadly straight.
He is one of the best creative forwards in the comp and makes superior decisions.

He struggles to take contested marks but can take them and use to take more of them in the past.

When you see Todd play well, the team has him playing to his strengths and when he plays badly, the team has him playing to his weaknesses.

The elephant in the room is the C word.

 

[Powerage]

He needs space to work in. That is where his best work is done and his strengths come to the fore. Ideally surrounded by a couple of other dangerous forwards who will keep the attention of their defenders.

He will make the most of any opportunities he gets and hopefully will continue to work in the gym to steadily gain strength when opposed to close checking negating defenders like Murphy.

He, Finlayson and Georgiades are best suited to working in an open forward line and we have the emerging midfield to be able to deliver the ball to them in that setup. Lord, if he makes it and become even an average kick at goal is the kind of player who can block, use his body and agression and do the team thing to help those guys play to their strengths.

Bombing the ball in long and high will only ensure that our current crop of key forwards play below their best which is why our gameplan needs to be adjusted to do more than kick to packs and retain the ball in the forward line.

To be able to adjust our gameplan we need to bolster our defense whether we draft, trade or find a defender in our current squad who have the height and/or strength to negate tall forwards who dominate the goalkicking list. 10 of the top 13 goalkickers are 195cm or above and we are simply not eqiupped to deal with them with the exception of Aliir who does his best work as an intercepter and is already 28 years old. Our next tall defender of that ilk is a teenager.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

“Todd, as most of the boys are at the moment, has been battling some little niggling injuries which isn’t preventing him from playing. He is a beautiful set shot but anything past 45 or 50 metres, he’s just got to push through a little pain barrier he has at the moment. I thought he was almost back to his best contest-wise. He took six marks inside 50 and ten marks total so he his some really good form again but he’s just battling through this injury which is affecting his long set shots for goal.”

Cornes says side played the right way despite disappointing Cats loss

 

[Cockle Diver]

“Todd, as most of the boys are at the moment, has been battling some little niggling injuries which isn’t preventing him from playing. He is a beautiful set shot but anything past 45 or 50 metres, he’s just got to push through a little pain barrier he has at the moment. I thought he was almost back to his best contest-wise. He took six marks inside 50 and ten marks total so he his some really good form again but he’s just battling through this injury which is affecting his long set shots for goal.”

Cornes says side played the right way despite disappointing Cats loss

Did notice that a couple of weeks ago he was just running laps of the oval. He took no part of the other on field training.

 

[ibd77]

Todd needs to get on the Hawkins juice and oil up.

 

[Andre]

“Todd, as most of the boys are at the moment, has been battling some little niggling injuries which isn’t preventing him from playing. He is a beautiful set shot but anything past 45 or 50 metres, he’s just got to push through a little pain barrier he has at the moment. I thought he was almost back to his best contest-wise. He took six marks inside 50 and ten marks total so he his some really good form again but he’s just battling through this injury which is affecting his long set shots for goal.”

Cornes says side played the right way despite disappointing Cats loss

Another to the long list of players who should get a rest, but go with the greyhound policy - run until they break. Lord should have gotten more games, taking either Dixon's or Marshall's place, depending on which needed the rest most urgently (Dixon, but later Marshall for a week or two IMO).

There's a good reason many weren't surprised by the debacle around Aliir and Jones, our management of player injuries has been sub-par for years and next level shit this year.

 

[Del165198]

pictured: todd marshall

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Todd Marshall

Age

26

Ht

198cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

2.5

2star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

8.9

2star

K

7.1

3star

HB

1.8

1star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.6

5star

lining up for goals

 

[PJ Power]

pictured: todd marshall lining up for goals

Once in a generation finals goal kicker.

 

[JUSTWORK]

Was the person who started this thread being sarcastic? Surely they weren’t being serious.

 

[backtozero]

I think we have to accept that he peaked last year and what we saw this season is the norm.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

lol it was so bad that people were making up injury excuses for him.

Don't think I've ever seen any one shit the bed so bad because they got spooked by playing in a finals ever.

 

[JUSTWORK]

I think we have to accept that he peaked last year and what we saw this season is the norm.

There was never any doubt about that.

 

[bomberclifford]

No.