Is Travis Cloke going to GWS?

[The Finger]

I think not.

Well youd be thinking wrong.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

I think the expectation that a player re-signs before his contract is finished is completely irrational and selfish by the clubs and supporters.

When you sign a contract for three years you then have that full three years to prove your worth for the next contract. If players like Cloke, Thomas, Hurley are coming into their prime and believe that they can reach another level of performance then why should they be expected to commit to a figure prematurely?

From a club's perspective why would you pressure a player into signing an extension early and then take away what is a huge source of motivation for many players, the ability to increase your earnings through improved performance in your contract's final year?

Also with free agency rules you pretty much need to have your contract end prior to signing a new contract otherwise in your 10th year at the club you will still be a a restricted free agent rather then a unrestricted free agent .

 

[La Vache]

Also with free agency rules you pretty much need to have your contract end prior to signing a new contract otherwise in your 10th year at the club you will still be a a restricted free agent rather then a unrestricted free agent .

So the bloody press need to stop speculating and we should get used to it. Fine with me.

 

[Lestat]

Get over yourself seriously your so far off the mark its comical.

Actually, a quick review of your posting history shows that he's 100% spot on!

Still hurting?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

My gut feel is that he has probably signed an agreement with GWS in the off season. Its likely they did sign a big name in that time and Hurley is now off the table. Kreuzer and Gibbs have made stronger statements about staying

Ablett, Scully, Brown, Harbrow, Ward all equivocated over their intentions and were all probably signed the off season prior to leaving (maybe not Ward). Cloke is sounding like someone hiding his intention. If his signed already he can't negotiate with Collingwood and so has to f-nudge all year and he doesn't sound good at doing that

this pretty much sums up my thoughts on it

 

[Collingwoodity]

SO we're keeping pendlebury...

great stuff... what picks would we get for him??

 

[The Finger]

Actually, a quick review of your posting history shows that he's 100% spot on!

Still hurting?

Couldnt be happier.

 

[Lestat]

Couldnt be happier.

Of course you couldn't. Your a Stkilda supporter...losing for you is the norm.

On topic....perhaps we should all wait and see before concluding that he is leaving.

Remember, Buckley was definately going to Port, Thomas and Swan were also as good as gone last season.

Unlike Scully who quite clearly could not stand his club, never wanted to be their in the first place....Cloke actually likes playing for the pies.

Yeah, its alot of money, and who can blame him if he goes, but I think its still more likely that he'll stay a pie.

The big Victorian clubs very rarely lose big players. Not saying it never happens, it does...but not often.

 

[Madison]

Putting off contract talks = gonski!

No one has re-signed after putting off talks. And with Hurley now staying at Essendon, they need to go after a key forward.

He's gone.

 

[MarkT2]

Cloke was as non committal as Thomas and Swan were before they signed.

 

[Lestat]

Putting off contract talks = gonski!

No one has re-signed after putting off talks. And with Hurley now staying at Essendon, they need to go after a key forward.

He's gone.

Travis Cloke put of contract talks last contract...and he stayed.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Did Swan and Thomas specifically say that they wanted to deal with it and the end of the year, though? I thought they were more of the "it'll sort itself out" camp.

That's the only thing that sets off the klaxons - this crap about "I'll focus on my footy and do the contract thing after the season's over".

 

[Lestat]

Besides, he didn't put of contract talks at all.

What he said last night, was that he would 'prefer' to leave it till the end of the season, but if something came up before then, he would be happy to sign, and he would prefer to stay a pie.

Quite clearly, his preference would be to do the contract at the end of the season, but he would be willing to sign something now if the right deal was offered.

Similar to what Thomas said last season.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

SO we're keeping pendlebury...

great stuff... what picks would we get for him??

Not if gws gets cloke as a restricted free agent and pendlebury as an uncontracted player.

 

[Lestat]

Not if gws gets cloke as a restricted free agent and pendlebury as an uncontracted player.

Not even you can afford both. Your salary cap it big, but it ain't infinite.

 

[bradrowe#32]

I think he might go. Dad seems to have a lot of influence and dad switched clubs mid career. Maybe it depends on whether he regrets it or not.

His Dad doesn't manage him anymore. LINK.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

His Dad doesn't manage him anymore. LINK.

His dad still manages him its just that he has another mangement team to help pursue interest for when his footy career ends. But all on field deals are still done by his dad.

 

[PieNSauce]

Get over yourself seriously your so far off the mark its comical.

lol. Blind freddy can spend 2 minutes looking at your posting history to know you're a offended saints supporter. What is hard to fathom is the depth of pain and embarrassment that would drive someone to denounce his own club's colours. It must be so intense! I feel for you, really I do!

 

[Zeke]

No one has re-signed after putting off talks.

Rubbish, happens many times at every club, every season.

 

[The Finger]

lol. Blind freddy can spend 2 minutes looking at your posting history to know you're a offended saints supporter. What is hard to fathom is the depth of pain and embarrassment that would drive someone to denounce his own club's colours. It must be so intense! I feel for you, really I do!

Like I said to the other bloke your that far off the mark its comical.

 

[bombermick]

He signed last minute last time, so I wouldn't be overly concerned if I supported the Pies.

He'll wait and see where the Pies are going over the next few years. If he's convinced they've got more flag/s in them, I reckon he'll stay.

 

[Neese]

If he were I don't think he would have mentioned on television that he has $10k in cash in his house.

Neither is his manager father

 

[ipswichpies]

what you have to remember is that for us as supporters, we are all about club loyalty. If i was good enough, id honestly play for Geelong for a bag of twisties and a can of tarax creamy soda.

Cloke however has had 2 brothers jettisoned by the Pies. His dad played there and then left. Ill bet he has a MUCH more business like, cynical view of not only the Pies, but the AFL in general to us. He is in this for the money and who can blame him really. I watched that interview last night and wondered if he went through a sadness in '10 that Cameron and Jason didnt get to play in that premiership, and if ultimately the mechanism Collingwood used to get him there (taking his spud like brothers) ultimately will cost them the one they really wanted in the end anyway... Gone imo....

The other side of that coin is that David Cloke could of sent all 3 of his boys to Richmond but he was happy enough to have all 3 at the Pies so he
cannot be that down on Collingwood,Cloke,s dad will do what he thinks is right for Travis not what you or I think.

You are right David Cloke did leave the Pies but he was very good player for 7 seasons and if as you say he had a grudge why did,nt he tell Travis to sign for Essendon or the Suns last time both offered more money than we could but he still stayed the same as Swan,Thomas and Pendlebury.

 

[juss]

Cloke's money hungry. He'll milk the pies for all they are worth. He's the second best forward in the game, in the prime of his career, and Collingwood are in the middle of a premiership window, which would probably close if he left. He knows they'll spend big to keep him.

But I can't see him leaving.

 

[brendan84]

I'm getting the feeling GWS aren't going to get a big star this year. Cloke's comments on TFS were all over the place so I wouldn't read too much into what he said, I think he just isn't very good at talking.