Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

[The Perfect Stranger]

We are supposed to believe the brutality Hamas has shown isn't reflective of the entire Palestinian population, yet we see crowds of civilians, including children, hitting and spitting on the brutalized, naked dead bodies of murdered Israelis and westerners (inlcuding young women).

Nope. Not buying it.

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

That failing is directly on the NSW government.

It was a deliberately provocative move and one that was not appropriate for a nation whose official foreign policy is for a two state solution.

We are never lighting up national landmarks for solidarity with Palestine every time the shoe is on the other foot.

The NSW government failed its people by inciting this.

Only fanatics like you agree with this.

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

Why do we condemn the attacks on Israel yet say nothing about the countless attacks on Palestine? Israel has brought this on themselves.

So you agree with the rape and murder of Israeli women? "They brought it on themselves."

 

[Woody15]

Can anyone recommend any books about the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict?

 

[Bloods86]

We are supposed to believe the brutality Hamas has shown isn't reflective of the entire Palestinian population, yet we see crowds of civilians, including children, hitting and spitting on the brutalized, naked dead bodies of murdered Israelis and westerners (inlcuding young women).

Nope. Not buying it.

So when you go to a footy game, you just assume that the rest of Australia goes for the home team, because there sure seems to be a lot of them around?

 

[Cap]

Straight from the Russians playbook.

 

[Rob R]

Those sites aren't going to be very liveable soon.

The Holy sites will be fine because most of them were originally Jewish sites. Plus almost all Jews and Muslims are pretty respectful of either sides religious sites. Even the nutters on both sides who love to kill eachother will pause before damaging a site (not surprising given how close the religions actually are)

Can't rule out Hamas damaging a holy site as their leadership will do anything to inspire hatred but they should be safe as your average Hamas murderer who would have to conduct the attack would hesitate to follow those orders.


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[JackFlash]

Peace in the Middle East is such an impossible concept that it's basically a punchline. That's because it happens far away, to people who don't look like us, talk like us or think like us, but it's getting closer and closer as we saw out side the Opera House and currently at the State Library in Melbourne. It's an incredibly complicated situation, it must be keeping Crazy Joe up at night. Keeping track of who's pissed off at who at any given moment requires more flowcharts than a Christopher Nolan movie. This is really happening and it's closer to us all here now than ever before, if you're thinking tonight that all the explosions, machine guns and body armor bringing to mind images of Mad Max style, post-apocalyptic towns devoid of modern comforts, you're more right than you know.

 

[Kanga Commando]

That failing is directly on the NSW government.

It was a deliberately provocative move and one that was not appropriate for a nation whose official foreign policy is for a two state solution.

We are never lighting up national landmarks for solidarity with Palestine every time the shoe is on the other foot.

The NSW government failed its people by inciting this.

At the very least they might have stopped it once it got to "gassing"

Crimes Amendment (Publicly Threatening and Inciting Violence) Bill 2018

An Act to amend the Crimes Act 1900 to create an offence of threatening or inciting violence on the grounds of race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity or intersex or HIV/AIDS status; make consequential amendments to the Anti-Discrimination Act 1977; and for related purposes

• Assented: Wed 27 Jun 2018

 

[Smeg Head]

That failing is directly on the NSW government.

It was a deliberately provocative move and one that was not appropriate for a nation whose official foreign policy is for a two state solution.

We are never lighting up national landmarks for solidarity with Palestine every time the shoe is on the other foot.

The NSW government failed its people by inciting this.

No excuse for the people to come out and chant vile shit. Oh but its always someone else's fault. You have to take responsibility for your own actions living here, and the actions of a lot of that crowd were criminal.

 

[Unpredictable]

We are supposed to believe the brutality Hamas has shown isn't reflective of the entire Palestinian population

It's not, their is a minority in Palestine, and this is not their battle. This is a pharisee vs muslim battle and I just hope the rest of the world mind their own buisness and don't help either side, let them sort it out among themselves

yet we see crowds of civilians, including children, hitting and spitting on the brutalized, naked dead bodies of murdered Israelis and westerners (inlcuding young women).

They would be muslim palestinians doing that because they're the ones that support muslim hamas. So I believe it's stupid to believe that muslim Palestinians wouldn't support muslim hamas.

 

[Jeremias]

It's not, their is a minority in Palestine, and this is not their battle. This is a pharisee vs muslim battle and I just hope the rest of the world mind their own buisness and don't help either side, let them sort it out among themselves

Bit late for that, don't you reckon?

 

[Unpredictable]

Bit late for that, don't you reckon?

What do ya mean, America has been warned to mind their own buisness and you'd think it would be wise for them to do what they're told?

 

[Jeremias]

What do ya mean, America has been warned to mind their own buisness and you'd think it would be wise for them to do what they're told?

I mean what I said. It's all well and good to say nobody should get involved, but that's not how the world works. Never has and never will.

 

[Seedsfan]

So you agree with the rape and murder of Israeli women? "They brought it on themselves."

lol point to where I said I agreed with it? Israel has blood on their hands yet that is ignored, why?

It shouldn’t have ever come to this but events like this don’t happen in isolation.

 

[Jeremias]

lol point to where I said I agreed with it?

"Israel has brought this on themselves"

You are normalizing the behavior of animals. Do better.

 

[Seedsfan]

"Israel has brought this on themselves"

You are normalizing the behavior of animals. Do better.

Animals are made due to growing up in trauma. Maybe Israel should do better and look to de-escalate the situation. Israel as a state gets painted as an innocent victim when that could not be further from the truth

 

[Jeremias]

Animals are made due to growing up in trauma. Maybe Israel should do better and look to de-escalate the situation. Israel as a state gets painted as an innocent victim when that could not be further from the truth

Yawn. Just another moron pedaling anti-Semitic rhetoric.

Hamas - a terrorist organisation - have undertaken the systematic and calculated murder of Jews. They have no interest in 'de-escalation'. They have no interest in peace nor do they want a two state solution.

They want Jews wiped off the face of the earth. And here you are supporting it through what I can only hope is complete ignorance.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Straight from the Russians playbook.

"i didnt do it"

sounds like my ****in 3 year old.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Animals are made due to growing up in trauma. Maybe Israel should do better and look to de-escalate the situation. Israel as a state gets painted as an innocent victim when that could not be further from the truth

you are an utter nut job mate

the fact you allowed to post in this thread is remarkable.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Apologies if this has been raised and resolved during the opening 38 pages of this thread, but surely Mossad must be having a long hard look in the mirror after the weekend's attack onto Israeli soil?

Media are reporting this as "Israel's 9/11", but at least the attack on the WTC in 2011 didn't require the collaboration and silence of literally hundreds of combatants.

Sure the CIA dropped the ball big time in the lead-up to 9/11, but the sheer scale of participants in the Hamas incursion/attack knocks the CIA's oversight into a cocked hat in comparison to that of Israel's failure at an intelligence level?

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Apologies if this has been raised and resolved during the opening 38 pages of this thread, but surely Mossad must be having a long hard look in the mirror after the weekend's attack onto Israeli soil?

Media are reporting this as "Israel's 9/11", but at least the attack on the WTC in 2011 didn't require the collaboration and silence of literally hundreds of combatants.

Sure the CIA dropped the ball big time in the lead-up to 9/11, but the sheer scale of participants in the Hamas incursion/attack knocks the CIA's oversight into a cocked hat in comparison to that of Israel's failure at an intelligence level?

yep the Secuity failure will go down in history.

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

Can anyone recommend any books about the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict?

Just finished.
The 51 Day War: Ruin and Resistance in Gaza
Book by Max Blumenthal

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

Apologies if this has been raised and resolved during the opening 38 pages of this thread, but surely Mossad must be having a long hard look in the mirror after the weekend's attack onto Israeli soil?

Media are reporting this as "Israel's 9/11", but at least the attack on the WTC in 2011 didn't require the collaboration and silence of literally hundreds of combatants.

Sure the CIA dropped the ball big time in the lead-up to 9/11, but the sheer scale of participants in the Hamas incursion/attack knocks the CIA's oversight into a cocked hat in comparison to that of Israel's failure at an intelligence level?

Complete intelligence failure by Mossad and the Israeli govt.

 

[Kurve]

Ordinary people in Germany appear to have identified one of these men.