Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

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Hands up don’t shoot though we know even hostages wave white flags and get shot.
And on that should we expect 30 IDF soldiers to be killed in retaliation for the murder of hostages? Seems to be the going ratio for Palestinian civilians..
 
That they were losing the support of locals cos the locals blame Hamas for the siege that Israel laid on Gaza?

So you don’t agree with this bit . Makes sense doesn’t it ? Israel weren’t helping out much with quality of life in Gaza since Hamas has been in control. What’s the point of Hamas.

“On the other side of Hamas’s claims to legitimacy, the presence of groups like the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in Gaza, which continue the fight, raised the question Hamas’s credibility as an Islamist resistance organization. With dropping public support, and without a path to improve or maintain their image in Gaza through governance, Hamas instead attempted to amplify its revolutionary credentials, both among Palestinians and globally, by carrying out a large-scale attack.”
 

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having a pro-israel female voice that isn’t fully indoctrinated and shouty adds to the discussion. my issue with you is attempting to censor peeps with a different view by saying they have “no standing”.

Pro-Israel?

My post was in response to someone else claiming references to Kristallnacht was disgusting and dishonouring the memories of jews who died in the camps, when the comparisons to Kristallnacht are being drawn by some Jews who survived the Nazi death camps or whose family members actually died in the camps. Therefore, the person as a not a Jew, claiming it was disgusting and dishonouring does not have the same standing to none.

That isn't censorship.
 
peeps with a lot to lose but with a strong social conscience. biden is as weak as piss on the genocide. something he has in common u.s leadership after leadership on the occupation and inhumanity. without the u.s funding and lapdog policies, israel would not have gotten away with the decades of treachery and callous disregard for human life.



didn’t have much time for ronny, until i read this. grow a pair biden



I think we understand the power of the Israeli lobbying machine, also the religious white Christian machine in the US, as well as the reach of the RW & FRW & FRW nutcase media.
Biden has to try to dodge these forces, who are already trying to get rid of him, to try to control Netanyahu.
Biden isn't stupid enough to take them on, head on. It'd be political suicide & pointless. However, he'd be playing hard behind the scenes to try to stop or limit the carnage. He knows Israelis are making a huge rod for their backs.
Its like the US who went in vengeance mode after 911, & we all know how well that went.
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I can post hundreds of real images and videos of what is actually happening in Gaza but it will probably be taken down for being too graphic.

The only thing you're demonstrating is how deliberately obtuse you are. Many Zionists have moved on from trying to deny the killing. You're still stuck in October Zionist propaganda.
 
I can post hundreds of real images and videos of what is actually happening in Gaza but it will probably be taken down for being too graphic.

The only thing you're demonstrating is how deliberately obtuse you are. Many Zionists have moved on from trying to deny the killing. You're still stuck in October Zionist propaganda.
So you’ve all missed Hamas’s glaring AI or Photoshop blooper?
 
So you’ve all missed Hamas’s glaring AI or Photoshop blooper?

All we have seen is you post a misinformation picture. You have provided no evidence that Hamas posted this anywhere.

Please explain the origins of this fake image, and why you are promoting it.

Did it come from your facebook meme group?
 
So you’ve all missed Hamas’s glaring AI or Photoshop blooper?
Plestia, Bisan, Motaz, Al-Jazeera and others been reporting what's been happening on the ground. They've shown the reality of the situation through sharing livestreams, photos, videos, personal stories, interviews etc.

Maybe you need to broaden your news sources. Couldn't tell you the last post I saw from Hamas because I'm not obsessed with them. My interest is in the safety of the Palestinians which lies at the hands of the Israeli government. Hamas don't need to post anything for us to see the atrocities the Israeli government is committing in Gaza and the West Bank.
 
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Looks like a obviously ai generated image that a shitty Facebook or Twitter page or bot would share to like farm

Plenty of them exist

What’s the point of sharing it here? Unless it’s been picked up by a news agency or respectable source that is trying to pass it off as genuine it’s hardly earth shattering stuff
 
Everyone fakes stories. Hamas do, IDF does, Russia and Ukraine both do. It's usually produced by non-affiliated randoms partisan to a cause. The actual entities in the conflicts are rarely directly behind them. But sympathetic media and retweeters WILL get sucked in by them commonly.

As a weapon of war, it's worth it. A retraction will never get the purchase that the original claim got.

The only takeaway is the reminder to treat everything with a critical eye. Unless an entire war or invasion can be faked, one is better served shelving a fake and going back to look for stuff that can be evidenced.

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What is your point even here? Typical Zionist shit, make out everyone does disinformation etc anything to deflect from what Israel are doing in Gaza.

It’s like MAGA stuff, just do anything to deflect and change the topic.
 
Everyone fakes stories. Hamas do, IDF does, Russia and Ukraine both do. It's usually produced by non-affiliated randoms partisan to a cause. The actual entities in the conflicts are rarely directly behind them. But sympathetic media and retweeters WILL get sucked in by them commonly.

As a weapon of war, it's worth it. A retraction will never get the purchase that the original claim got.

The only takeaway is the reminder to treat everything with a critical eye. Unless an entire war or invasion can be faked, one is better served shelving a fake and going back to look for stuff that can be evidenced.

(My opinion, can't type fast on a phone)

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Why would anyone fixate on it. Hamas and IDF could do 7 million fake images each, doesn’t change the reality of how many people have been killed in Gaza, October 7, and pre October 7 in Gaza and West Bank.
 
What is your point even here? Typical Zionist s**t, make out everyone does disinformation etc anything to deflect from what Israel are doing in Gaza.

It’s like MAGA stuff, just do anything to deflect and change the topic.
I think the point he is trying to make is that he can count past five
 
Why would anyone fixate on it. Hamas and IDF could do 7 million fake images each, doesn’t change the reality of how many people have been killed in Gaza, October 7, and pre October 7 in Gaza and West Bank.
Right. The only context in which it would be useful to point out a fake, this far into what's happening, would be if someone was claiming that only the IDF (or aligned) lie and Hamas (and aligned never do). Then an example can make a difference.

But nobody here is saying one side is squeaky clean and incapable of bullshit.
 
Right. The only context in which it would be useful to point out a fake, this far into what's happening, would be if someone was claiming that only the IDF (or aligned) lie and Hamas (and aligned never do). Then an example can make a difference.

But nobody here is saying one side is squeaky clean and incapable of bullshit.

The facts that have become apparent revolve around the Israeli public admission of the lie that was the 2 state solution. Its put the entire Western narrative under the spotlight. Support for Israel revolved around the belief the Israeli's were a sensible & well-balanced reasoning Government. That is now patently false,
Netanyahu's extreme RW Governments aim all along was to increasing pressure on the Palestinians wait for the pips to squeak. Never to allow the Palestinians any real territory or economic or social opportunity, never ever.

Nobody is squeaky clean, but only one side has killed 5,000 or more children. Only one side could allow a 2 state solution called for by the UN & the USA! Only one side lied about that, until now.
 
The facts that have become apparent revolve around the Israeli public admission of the lie that was the 2 state solution. Its put the entire Western narrative under the spotlight. Support for Israel revolved around the belief the Israeli's were a sensible & well-balanced reasoning Government. That is now patently false,
Netanyahu's extreme RW Governments aim all along was to increasing pressure on the Palestinians wait for the pips to squeak. Never to allow the Palestinians any real territory or economic or social opportunity, never ever.

Nobody is squeaky clean, but only one side has killed 5,000 or more children. Only one side could allow a 2 state solution called for by the UN & the USA! Only one side lied about that, until now.
Yep, but a different topic to the reasons to - or not to - be aghast at one fake image.
 


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Sickening, but you know what's worse than generating AI images of children? Killing several thousand children.
 
Right. The only context in which it would be useful to point out a fake, this far into what's happening, would be if someone was claiming that only the IDF (or aligned) lie and Hamas (and aligned never do). Then an example can make a difference.

But nobody here is saying one side is squeaky clean and incapable of bullshit.

The Zionist apologists are trying to claim Hamas are “just as bad” which is a very very low bar.

They aren’t really arguing against anyone as no one here likes Hamas. My sympathies and many others is with the Palestinian people who are under apartheid rule.
 
Sickening, but you know what's worse than generating AI images of children? Killing several thousand children.

And the IDF doing their fake propaganda on top of that.

Anyone seen stuff of the IDF TikTok? It’s so cringe I’m not sure who it’s supposed to appeal to. Trying to show how diverse the IDF is with women and people of colour (sometimes), and really playing on the attractive women angle.

I imagine it’s trying to appeal to performative wokeism? Fake liberals? Bill Maher?
 
Sickening, but you know what's worse than generating AI images of children? Killing several thousand children.
Yeh sorry, I was about to comment on some other AI images, but the AI stuff suddenly seemed such small beer compared to reality on the ground.
Anyway, continue.:oops:
 
Families, kids, journalists, hostages, now a French diplomat.

Reckoning of any sort?

Someone out there must have a macabre bingo game going.
 
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