Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

[spinynorman]

Hamas launch their attacks from civilian areas for that exact reason. You should be aware of that given your deep knowledge and expertise.

Where in Gaza isn't a civilian area?

Do you think fighters should go to open fields to launch their attacks so that they can immediately be slaughtered?

Given most people condemning this also condemn BDS, I can't help but think that their ideal response out of Palestine is to just suck it up and be squeezed out of existence.

 

[Sphynx]

They’ll need it. Gaza front, possibly West Bank, then potentially Lebanon and Syria. Reports the Golan Heights being hit.

Every male and female over 18 has to serve.

The only ones exempt from reserve activation between the ages of 18-40 are females with at least one child.

There’s 2.5m Israeli’s between the ages 18-40.

There’s 700,000 in active forces and reservists.

Which means they have well over 1,000,000+ in military age citizens to call up, whom have full military training.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

I’m not even going to begin..you’re not worth wasting time on. Clearly you are brainwashed and like to make up facts. The fact that you even mentioned apartheid..just leave

You're living in a fantasyland of propaganda. It is accepted that Netanyahu's policies constitute apatheid.
You don't want to accept Amnesty International's well researched report, you don't want to listen to moderate Jews who live in Israel, you're way out on the far right fringes supporting a regime trying to take over the supreme court and implement racist policy.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Every male and female over 18 has to serve.

The only ones exempt from reserve activation between the ages of 18-40 are females with at least one child.

There’s 2.5m Israeli’s between the ages 18-40.

I feel sorry for those Israeli kids who are forced into service to prop up Netanyahu's corrupt regime.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Where in Gaza isn't a civilian area?

Do you think fighters should go to open fields to launch their attacks so that they can immediately be slaughtered?

Given most people condemning this also condemn BDS, I can't help but think that their ideal response out of Palestine is to just suck it up and be squeezed out of existence.

My response was to illustrate that there is no precision strike capability Israel can utilise in Gaza.

I’m not exactly sure what you’re suggesting, but it kind of sounds like you support that actions Hamas are undertaking.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Every male and female over 18 has to serve.

The only ones exempt from reserve activation between the ages of 18-40 are females with at least one child.

There’s 2.5m Israeli’s between the ages 18-40.

I’m aware

 

[spinynorman]

Every male and female over 18 has to serve.

The only ones exempt from reserve activation between the ages of 18-40 are females with at least one child.

There’s 2.5m Israeli’s between the ages 18-40.

If only everyone had the same courage of the Taylor Swift fan account.

 

[Smeg Head]

No that's wrong , they represent human rights. They are no supporter of Hamas.

I was talking about Russia sorry.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Interesting..’apartheid’
Now you’re mentioning ‘genocide’
Do you even know what the definition of genocide is? It’s the deliberate elimination of a whole..this is exactly what hamas leaders are doing to Israel. Israelis could have wiped out everyone if they wanted to..but they don’t. Stop typing dribble. You couldn’t be more hypocritical if you tried

I've heard a lot of talk of razing Gaza to the ground and Netanyahu's words at the moment make me think that's possible.
If you want to spout your opinion , don't make it an ignorant opinion.
My points are that Hamas are racist scumbags, Netanyahu is a corrupt racist scumbag implenting apartheid policies, Palestinian people are treated like dogs by Israeli police, Israel stole Palestinian land and continue to do so, Palestinian people have a right to sovereignty and basic human rights.
You're argument is basically that all Palestinians are terrorist dogs and that Netanyahu is a good reasonable guy.

 

[spinynorman]

Ending Russia? ENDING a nuclear state? There's only one way that would end. Global nuclear holocaust.

I think they're saying we should've done it in 1945 as soon as Germany and Japan surrendered, which is absolutely psychotic but par the course for a lot of the bloodlust in this thread.

 

[HairyO]

Why is it the fault of children and babies? Go after Hamas and leave innocent people alone.

Hamas always stay near children, women and the elderly.

 

[Kurve]

Enter the wedding singers.

 

[strauchy]

I've heard a lot of talk of razing Gaza to the ground and Netanyahu's words at the moment make me think that's possible.
If you want to spout your opinion , don't make it an ignorant opinion.
My points are that Hamas are racist scumbags, Netanyahu is a corrupt racist scumbag implenting apartheid policies, Palestinian people are treated like dogs by Israeli police, Israel stole Palestinian land and continue to do so, Palestinian people have a right to sovereignty and basic human rights.
You're argument is basically that all Palestinians are terrorist dogs and that Netanyahu is a good reasonable guy.

Wow..honestly wow.
For the record..how are Israelis treated? Actually let me rephrase that. How are the innocent women and children treated? What did they do? They certainly don’t deserve to be kidnapped and taken hostage.
Israel NEVER stole the land. This is fabricated and you’re most likely getting your facts from bias social media.
Israel offered a peace treaty..this was rejected. Why? Because the leaders and terrorist groups wish death upon ALL ISRAELIS! That’s innocent people. Are you willing to acknowledge this? Or is it all one way? Honestly..
Israel develops the iron dome for defence! They fund their money to establish the country. What does the other side do? They fund their money not to establish a society..but rather to build rockets and fund families for through car rammings and suicide bombers. I also never said anything about Netanyahu.
You say genocide? The IDF could wipe out all of Gaza in a matter of second last if they wanted to. It’s never happened.
If the shoe was on the other foot..and Hamas leaders had more explosives and range, they would have wiped Israel out indefinitely. These are facts..not opinions.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

'The Lebanese militant group Hezbollah and the Israeli military have exchanged fire along Lebanon’s southern border, sparking concerns of a broader regional conflict.

Hezbollah claimed responsibility for shelling an Israeli military position in an area of disputed territory near the border with Lebanon, in the occupied Golan Heights.

“The radar sites, Zibdin and Ruwaisat Al-Alam were bombed with large numbers of artillery shells and guided missiles,” they said in a statement, reported by Al Jazeera.

“We targeted three Israeli occupation sites in the occupied Lebanese Shebaa Farms area.” '

 

[Cap]

I think they're saying we should've done it in 1945 as soon as Germany and Japan surrendered, which is absolutely psychotic but par the course for a lot of the bloodlust in this thread.

Absolutely not suggesting that.

I do think letting them have parts of Germany was a mistake.

When I say Russia, I'm talking the Regime in charge now.

Not the people, they are effectively a country of MAGA republicans who are so brain washed we need to give them the sympathy they deserve. And about 100 years of assistance once Putin falls.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Wow..honestly wow.
For the record..how are Israelis treated? Actually let me rephrase that. How are the innocent women and children treated? What did they do? They certainly don’t deserve to be kidnapped and taken hostage.
Israel NEVER stole the land. This is fabricated and you’re most likely getting your facts from bias social media.
Israel offered a peace treaty..this was rejected. Why? Because the leaders and terrorist groups wish death upon ALL ISRAELIS! That’s innocent people. Are you willing to acknowledge this? Or is it all one way? Honestly..
Israel develops the iron dome for defence! They fund their money to establish the country. What does the other side do? They fund their money not to establish a society..but rather to build rockets and fund families for through car rammings and suicide bombers. I also never said anything about Netanyahu.
You say genocide? The IDF could wipe out all of Gaza in a matter of second last if they wanted to. It’s never happened.
If the shoe was on the other foot..and Hamas leaders had more explosives and range, they would have wiped Israel out indefinitely. These are facts..not opinions.

The treatment of Israeli citizens yesterday was horrific and a war crime.
Israel stole land in 1967 and Netanyahu has supported constant incursions and new Israeli settlements by ultra-orthadox Jews.
I support the Israeli state 100% but not the constant new illegal settlements.
I agree there most probably won't be a genocide but how far will they go? The ground invasion into Gaza is about to start and revenge is the rhetoric coming from the army.
I reiterate that Hamas are racist scum and shouldn't be in power. I feel for the Jewish people and Palestinian people equally. They are not served well by their current leadership.

 

[Crankyhawk]

50 posts in this thread alone and yet to condemn the murder of Israeli children and elderly.

Don't expect humanity from him. He is incapable. It's all political, point scoring, whataboutism.

umm he did condemn Hamas, for those type of actions
sure, more text space and responses go towards Israel and Netenahyu, but thats probably because no one here challenges the idea that Hamas are a pack of shits.

 

[spinynorman]

Absolutely not suggesting that.

I do think letting them have parts of Germany was a mistake.

When I say Russia, I'm talking the Regime in charge now.

Not the people, they are effectively a country of MAGA republicans who are so brain washed we need to give them the sympathy they deserve. And about 100 years of assistance once Putin falls.

Apologies, I conflated your posts with another that mentioned 1945. My mistake.

They got parts of Germany because they got there first.

Anyway, I'll leave it because it's not really on topic.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Agree. Just don't indiscrimently kill civilians. Target Hamas. They have precision weapons so there's no excuse for a genocide.

given Hamas use suicide bombs and wear no uniform, exactly how does one "target Hamas"

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

given Hamas use suicide bombs and wear no uniform, exactly how does one "target Hamas"

They are going in on the ground so they may be more easily identified that way.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Wow..honestly wow.
For the record..how are Israelis treated? Actually let me rephrase that. How are the innocent women and children treated? What did they do? They certainly don’t deserve to be kidnapped and taken hostage.
Israel NEVER stole the land. This is fabricated and you’re most likely getting your facts from bias social media.
Israel offered a peace treaty..this was rejected. Why? Because the leaders and terrorist groups wish death upon ALL ISRAELIS! That’s innocent people. Are you willing to acknowledge this? Or is it all one way? Honestly..
Israel develops the iron dome for defence! They fund their money to establish the country. What does the other side do? They fund their money not to establish a society..but rather to build rockets and fund families for through car rammings and suicide bombers. I also never said anything about Netanyahu.
You say genocide? The IDF could wipe out all of Gaza in a matter of second last if they wanted to. It’s never happened.
If the shoe was on the other foot..and Hamas leaders had more explosives and range, they would have wiped Israel out indefinitely. These are facts..not opinions.

Um, so what are Israeli/ Jewish settlers doing in the West bank then? Tourism?

 

[Crankyhawk]

They are going in on the ground so they may be more easily identified that way.

Pure targeting would probably only able to shoot back after being shot at first which is a hell of a way to run a military operation
And I doubt that the Israeli army will operate in that way (from a purely military standpoint it isn't sustainable or realistic)

 

[Zidane98]

They are going in on the ground so they may be more easily identified that way.

This approach by itself will cost them many lives.


Never gonna happen but I wish the Abbas could join forces with Israel to declare war on Hamas.

Qatar & Iran need to be taking more heat over this. They're the ones funding & arming Hamas and encouraging them to attack Israel.

 

[bzparkes]

Anyone suggesting peace talks between these 2 groups is having a lend.

Muslims and Jews despise each other and the middle east is a backwards cesspit.

It'll go on forever until either one group is wiped out forever, or everyone suddenly becomes an atheist.

The latter will never happen while those in power have religion as such a reliable tool to inflame the masses and bend them to their will.

Also, for all the hand-wringing over the 'apartheid' laws Israel imposes on Palestine, let's look at the example of South Africa since apartheid ended.

It's going swimmingly

 

[Smeg Head]

Anyone suggesting peace talks between these 2 groups is having a lend.

Muslims and Jews despise each other and the middle east is a backwards cesspit.

It'll go on forever until either one group is wiped out forever, or everyone suddenly becomes an atheist.

The latter will never happen while those in power have religion as such a reliable tool to inflame the masses and bend them to their will.

Also, for all the hand-wringing over the 'apartheid' laws Israel imposes on Palestine, let's look at the example of South Africa since apartheid ended.

It's going swimmingly

I mean they could always say 'hand back all the hostages or al aqsa gets demolished.' That mosque is by definition an occupier so....

But you are right, never going to be a lasting 2 state solution now, just a tit for tat cycle.