I think it's more of an indictment of the AFL community that Ginnivan thinks being 21 makes him a kid.
That's a legit grown man. A fully fledged adult.
These guys live in a fantasy world.
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Jack Ginnivan - Redemption arc
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That's a legit grown man. A fully fledged adult.
These guys live in a fantasy world.
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What qualities someone as a legend?? A premiership player, maybe?
But at Hawthorn?? A legend? That's absurd.
My club? I don't have a club
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Doing the same shit he was doing at the Pies and getting crucified for. Just goes to show bias against certain clubs rings true for most
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How about it Hawks' fans, is Ginny a Hawks' legend yet? Looks like he's well on the way
Now that's an entirely different thing.
You know he's a kid because footy boomers are desperate to make and read negativity about him, no 21 year old calling himself a kid has ever been a red flag, chill.
Meh
Each generation is a product of the circumstances that came beforehand. For example economic prosperity and left wing ideology gradually gaining more ground among parents (not all parents obviously, you could say the majority were still conservative and religious at that time) in Western countries that raised children in the 1950s that eventually led to the free love movement, hippies, atheism, illicit drug use, etc.... become embraced by a large cohort of teens and young adults in their 20s in the 1960s.
As well as the environment for example technology such as the pill that led to women becoming more sexually liberated/promiscuous in the 60s onwards.
I used the 1960s as an example as this is a generation (boomers) that tends to think very highly of themselves. They believe that they were some special and unique trail blazing social and culturally pioneering generation.
When in reality like I mentioned previously the change in social mores in that period were definitely first introduced by the influence of more 'liberal' (in the sense that yanks used it) parents that were around in the 1950s and the circumstances/environment/influences swirling around in the decade after.
In the same vein Gen Z are nothing special as well; they are highly influenced and the product of even more liberal/leftwing Gen X/pioneering Gen Y parents in Western countries; nothing more nothing less.
Gen Z are not inherently/innately more 'tolerant', that's just nonsense. No, they have simply been indoctrinated/brainwashed that way by leftwing/liberal parents and governments/institutions that have taught them what is now acceptable.
Otherwise you would observe the same change in mindset among Gen Zs from Middle Eastern/Muslim/African/Asian countries and clearly that is not the case. It is specifically a Western/European phenomenon for the reasons I outlined above.
That is why you'll never hear me criticize 'youngins' as their attitude/character/mindset/etc.. (or lack thereof) is the result of how their previous generation raised them. And to criticize them is to actually criticize the quality of parenting that they were given.
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I've never in my life heard a 21 year old grown man refer to himself as a kid.
If a grown adult male thinks of himself as a child when he's 21 years old, it's a genuine concern.
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There’s really nothing better than having a talented small to medium goal kicking gun who’s a born smartarse with a cheeky grin and delivers when it matters.
Think Stevie J, Darren Bewick and the great Allan Jackovich.
It’s what footy is all about.
Think Stevie J, Darren Bewick and the great Allan Jackovich.
It’s what footy is all about.
I don't wanna hear Hawk fans ever accuse Selwood of ducking after recruiting a player that clearly does it on purpose. Selwood actually tried to break tackles, he wasn't fishing for frees as he kept going regardless of whether he got the ump's whistle or not.
Whereas other players immediately and shamelessly look to the umps with an expression of anguish to bail them out every time an opponent is so much as within a metre of them.
Whereas other players immediately and shamelessly look to the umps with an expression of anguish to bail them out every time an opponent is so much as within a metre of them.
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“Selwood actually tried to break tackles”
Lol..Turn it up
Just accept he was a master of milking the free. All credit to him. Because he backed up the ducking with elite work rate and endless extraction of the ball to benefit his team.
I used to think he was a massive knob but now just a knob.
Not sure what all the fuss is about with this guy.
Good ordinary player - kicked a goal from 10 metres out when the ball literally fell into his arms (even surprised him) and then carried on like Lionel Messi.
Good ordinary player - kicked a goal from 10 metres out when the ball literally fell into his arms (even surprised him) and then carried on like Lionel Messi.
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Was at a pub drinking a soft drink to normalise life with mates
Where’s the blow up with Stengle who literally got off a plane, went straight to the clubs and passed out.
Where’s the blow up with Stengle who literally got off a plane, went straight to the clubs and passed out.
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This. Hammer meets nail
Is there anything in the rule book that says slipping out of a tackle is not allowed? In any case Selwood just kept on going regardless. I rarely noticed him stopping and looking around for the ump with a pleading look to bail him out with a free kick unless it was an obvious high hit/tackle from the very beginning.
When he initiated the high contact he soldiered on from what I observed.
You're entitled to your opinion but I never got the feeling that Selwood played for free kicks. He always seemed content in just breaking/slipping a tackle to get a disposal off rather than waiting and looking for the ump to blow his whistle.
Alan Jakovich???
Dude was 187cms (Dunstall was 188 and Lockett was only 191). Beast of a man.
He's not in the bracket you described.
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OFC you didn't, you're biased. Played up every little bit of contact.
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I'm not a fan of his diving and if the rumours from his time at Collingwood are true then he's a pretty shit bloke.
But the story about him having dinner at a pub is one of the most ridiculous beat ups I've ever seen.
But the story about him having dinner at a pub is one of the most ridiculous beat ups I've ever seen.
I don’t think so. Every Collingwood supporter knows he won a premiership with us. Definition of a winner.
Ginnivan could always play. Collingwood fans told everyone that but refused to listen
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