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You know kappa, i rarely agree with you, this one i will.Rehabilitation is just ONE purpose of prison.
It is also to provide JUSTICE for the victim, DETER other potential criminals and PROTECT society from a thug who bashes strangers.
The judge has completely failed to provide justice, completely failed to deter other criminals, or protect society from a clearly violent thug.
Fines are the dumbest punishment ever, if he's rich it's literally no punishment at all.
I think you missed the point.Yeah just let degenerates, scumbags, junkies and idiotic tik tok pranksters get away with all their senseless violence and bullshit. Too many excuses made for these type of *******s nowdays. * them.
FWIW, I've personally known 4 people who have been charged with assault - and none went to jail.But is anyone actually surprised ?
FWIW, I've personally known 4 people who have been charged with assault - and none went to jail.
One of them actually whacked a cop too.
So no, I'm not surprised.
The guys I know were charged because they bashed people. One king hit a copper.Assault can be anything, a mild push is assault.
This is punches to the face that required surgery, bit different.
The guys I know were charged because they bashed people. One king hit a copper.
I also saw some of my mates get bashed, and the offenders never did time.
This was going back 20-30 years.
People not being put in jail for whacking people, is not a new phenomenon. Rightly or wrongly.
I think I saw video once of Michael Voss punching someone at a pub. I don't think he was even charged. Dane Swan didn't do time.
I think you are confusing 'correlation' with 'causation'?People that go to jail statistically come out worse. Especially young people.
From memory, I think it's about 60% of people that do a jail term, will reoffend.
Pretty easy to criticise a judge. I don't condone any violence, but as flawed as our legal system may be, I trust the person placed in that difficult position to make the right decision.
Pretty easy to criticise a judge. I don't condone any violence, but as flawed as our legal system may be, I trust the person placed in that difficult position to makethe right decision.on the balance of probabilities the likely least worst decision.
Blind faith in authority is an extremely silly and dangerous stance to have.
Genuinely sick of you flakes banging on about rehabilitation.
Screw your rehabilitation. This is about justice and keeping violent psychos off the street. A subhuman piece of trash like him belongs in jail. 21 years old? No excuse.
Physically assault someone like this, you absolutely should be in prison.
The problem is, prison should be equal parts punishment and rehabilitation …
Meanwhile the scum who attacked him can go home laughing…
Agree.Physically assault someone like this, you absolutely should be in prison.
The problem is, prison should be equal parts punishment and rehabilitation.
If we run our prisons so badly they can't rehabilitate anyone, then we need to sort that out.
But this person 100% deserves to lose his freedom, not just 25k. Which I'm sure between family and friends he can cobble together.
And while he's off the streets, then yes the prison system should be set up to give him a reasonable chance at not remaining a violent piece of **** when he gets out.
Refusing to put people in prison because we've failed in our duty to provide both punishment and rehabilitation inside our prisons is pretty crazy.
Make the prisons do what they're designed to do, and then don't hesitate to put people like this guy into them.
It’s not blind faith.
We have a choice on how we want these things to roll every three years at the ballot box.
If you want to live in a community that spends more taxpayer dollars on building more prisons to lock more people up for longer periods of time (because that’s effectively what you’re advocating) then you can vote for politicians who pledge that. And you can write to your local reps to advocate that. And you can donate your $$$ to the parties / reps who pledge those policies.
Sure, it’s hard to empathise with somebody who bashes a random on a night out for kicks …
… but you think a first time offender who has just been through the criminal legal system, and who has been convicted and now has a criminal record would now be laughing?
Do you think me changing my vote, or writing to my local member, will have an impact on the criminal justice system?
For lots of wealthy nepo babies, yes. There lots of young rich people for which 25k is nothing, he'll be extremely happy with the outcome.
Fines are only punishments for the non-wealthy. I heard he left court wearing a jacket worth several thousand dollars, doubt it'll bother him. That's why fines are a joke for serious violent offences.
I'm not familiar with how fines work at that level.Lmfao. You really think this piece of s**t will pay the fine?
Does it benefit society to not really punish him though?To play devil's advocate here...
He was fined $25k. And is sending a 21yo to prison really ideal?
I don't think the numbers are good in terms of rehabilitation in prison. You're more likely to come out as a genuine crook that a mild mannered law abiding citizen.
Whilst part of me really wants to see dickheads like this suffer in prison, another part of me wonders if it really helps society in the long run?