Confirmed Jack Graham - Heads to West Coast as FA - Richmond Receive End of R2 Compo

[Giant Strides]

It's the first time in the history of AFL Free Agency that a 4 year deal hasn't got band 1, 2 or 3 for a player aged 26 or under.

I'm not going to defend either VFL House or the FA Compensation system, but this statement is simply not true.

26 year-old Adam Tomlinson similarly received band 4 in 2019 for a 5-year $500k p.a. (reported) contact (noting that $500k then would be equivalent to much more today).

Inaugural Giant joins Dees as free agent, compensation revealed

One of the inaugural Giants, Adam Tomlinson has now joined the Demons for the next four years

www.afl.com.au

 

[juss]

The pick is useless to us other than packaging it for points to another club, so hopefully it assists in that area.
The benefit for us is that Graham was stagnating/regressing hard on our list, and while his effort and endevour are never questioned, he didn't have enough onfield strengths to be worth keeping around for another 4 years.

I think his seniority and leadership would have been important for a couple of the next seasons, but was not happy when we offered 4 years for someone who's footy hasn't kicked on from early promise.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Seems like he took a big paycut to join the Eagles. Very surprising to say the least

 

[Morro]

Seems like he took a big paycut to join the Eagles. Very surprising to say the least

Why does it seem that way besides your weird narrative?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Why does it seem that way besides your weird narrative?

Because otherwise you would have gotten Band 2 or 3?

Not sure why thats a secret

 

[tiger_tough]

Why does it seem that way besides your weird narrative?

Don't feed the troll.

 

[SplintWhisky]

I'm not going to defend either VFL House or the FA Compensation system, but this statement is simply not true.

26 year-old Adam Tomlinson similarly received band 4 in 2019 for a 5-year $500k p.a. (reported) contact (noting that $500k then would be equivalent to much more today).

Inaugural Giant joins Dees as free agent, compensation revealed

One of the inaugural Giants, Adam Tomlinson has now joined the Demons for the next four years

www.afl.com.au

That Article has it at 4 years but yeah get your point.

I have a feeling they look at the sides, their picks and their current draft hand in how they make the determination.

2019 Richmond - B Ellis is like band 3 on a 600k 5 contract to the Suns
2019 GWS - The deal listed above

Both Grand Finalists

With this, we have a glut of picks and they just looked at it threw something there after being criticised on the compensation earlier.

Here is a great question I would love to look at. Do you get better FA Compensation if the deal is done earlier in the window or later?

 

[Morro]

Because otherwise you would have gotten Band 2 or 3?

Not sure why thats a secret

Your post literally makes no sense at all, that is 100% not a secret

 

[bluespooner]

All I am going off is the media saying how much the contract was for and for how long.

And underlying it is the fact (as far as I am concerned) that the AFL adds some secret spices to FA compo. That means that the 'rules' are more guidelines. Most FA's are straightforward and what you'd expect. Graham's compo seems a bit off. And this year the Tigers are cleaning up in draft picks (likely anyway). So the secret spices drop the compo. They do this all the time. This really annoys me. The AFL adjusts rules to support certain game styles (and so teams). e.g. The Pies won a premiership with a game plan that relied on creating stoppages etc. Then after they won the AFL changed the rule interpretations to make that style less likely to win. Just makes the whole thing dodgy and makes me annoyed.

It's definitely dodgy.

They use compensation picks to award defacto priority picks as well which is what happened last year with Ben McKay. That said, Graham is nowhere near the footballer that Isaac Smith was and he got Hawthorn a compensation pick in the 40s. Smith also went on to win the Norm Smith medal.

 

[captain cotch 9]

Seems like he took a big paycut to join the Eagles. Very surprising to say the least

He probably would of struggled to get a game with us next year tbh...
He is always injured and past his best. He isnt a damaging player.
Seems like a good guy though. Wish him the best.

 

[Dr Tigris]

It's definitely dodgy.

They use compensation picks to award defacto priority picks as well which is what happened last year with Ben McKay. That said, Graham is nowhere near the footballer that Isaac Smith was and he got Hawthorn a compensation pick in the 40s. Smith also went on to win the Norm Smith medal.

Oh yeah Graham isn't the first one the get this sort of treatment. Busy for pick 19 (I think it was).

If they want you to get a hand up magic happens. If they want you stay less competitive other magic happens.

 

[Bestbird]

He probably would of struggled to get a game with us next year tbh...
He is always injured and past his best. He isnt a damaging player.
Seems like a good guy though. Wish him the best.

That's is a bit surprising given 3 of your top 5 players are leaving

 

[captain cotch 9]

That's is a bit surprising given 3 of your top 5 players are leaving

We are about to have a lot of high ends picks walk in the door and have had a injury list longer than Matt Schervingtons d
The main point is that he is a nothing player these days.
Terrible by foot and decision maker.
Baker is the opposite so enjoy and take care of him please.

 

[Handsuper47]

It's about fair for him but what I don't understand is why he gets #42 and Battle + those guys from GWS are all way higher. Would love more clarification from the AFL on the compo system.

 

[boncer34]

It's about fair for him but what I don't understand is why he gets #42 and Battle + those guys from GWS are all way higher. Would love more clarification from the AFL on the compo system.

Because they got bigger contracts.

 

[bluespooner]

It's about fair for him but what I don't understand is why he gets #42 and Battle + those guys from GWS are all way higher. Would love more clarification from the AFL on the compo system.

The afl intentionally makes compensation as murky as possible to ensure that the afl's franchises in GWS and GC are able to dominate the draft every year. There are other mechanisms as well the afl uses to ensure their competitiveness with increased salary caps, larger lists and academies.

Just another mechanism the afl uses to load the dice in favour of expansion teams.

 

[Bestbird]

We are about to have a lot of high ends picks walk in the door and have had a injury list longer than Matt Schervingtons d
The main point is that he is a nothing player these days.
Terrible by foot and decision maker.
Baker is the opposite so enjoy and take care of him please.

I will take the view of both clubs as Richmond did offer a new contract as well.

Will be interesting to see the age profile of the Tigers best 22 next year as it wasn't particularly young during the season just gone

 

[Gavin Excell]

It's about fair for him but what I don't understand is why he gets #42 and Battle + those guys from GWS are all way higher. Would love more clarification from the AFL on the compo system.

Graham was borderline best 22 in the spoon team. He's a somewhat limited player
42 is overs

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Graham was borderline best 22 in the spoon team. He's a somewhat limited player
42 is overs

This is somewhat true and Bailey Smith is 10 times better so really you should be handing over Pick 4

 

[captain cotch 9]

Graham was borderline best 22 in the spoon team. He's a somewhat limited player
42 is overs

I think most tigers fans agree but the outlier and what is annoying is that similar players got higher picks. We got fd over on Brandon Ellis's compo pick as well.

 

[Gavin Excell]

I think most tigers fans agree but the outlier and what is annoying is that similar players got higher picks. We got fd over on Brandon Ellis's compo pick as well.

Unfortunately there's no transparency with AFL decision making on compensation deals so who knows their formula

 

[Hollow Knight]

Anyone making the case that Richmond should have got pick 2 is clearly not a serious person.

 

[Coach_Required]

Because otherwise you would have gotten Band 2 or 3?

Not sure why thats a secret

If you offered him 500K a year, that is not a pay cut.

Would love to think what contract you'd think band 4 compensation gets you.

 

[Farang83150]

From what I've heard over the weekend it will be Band 3 so we will get Pick 25

Guess you and your mates heard wrong.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Horrible result.






Now we still have to put up with Damien Barrett