Rumour Jack Luk-no-sius

[Wazzy36]

Would have been nice to get Luko to see if we could get out of him where the Suns have basically failed but that's life. What will be interesting is how and where the Powa will utilise him, if it's as a KPF or KPD I will watch with interest because that's not where I see him being best utilised. Will also be interesting how they structure his salary.

Surely it's as a KPF?

 

[crow2crow]

Port will be a worse side if they trade Houston for Lukosius

Spot on. They will really struggle without houston. I would hold him to contract if I was them.

 

[crow2crow]

Maybe
Houston pick for Lukosius
Cumming FA replaces

I'd rather our f1 than luko, so if that was the deal then I'm glad we missed out.

But I think West Lakes works against us big time, the sooner we move to a proper suburban footy club with first class facilities the better.

This is a huge factor IMO.

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of course that was the deal.... always was.

 

[Firewalker]

Getting role players is nice, but considering the list of players we've targeted, it feels a bit like the left over scraps

Wonder if Justin Reid at any point now might think his “good old rock” recruitment strategy might not be working after trying it every time after the Dawson & Rankine deals. The club has now gone 0 for 3 on trying the exact same strategy on Redman, Hayward and Lukosius.

 

[Crom1995]

I kind of agree but he fits their age bracket and they have a desperate need for a key forward. There are not many around and guys like Rozee and Butters could be past their best if they wait to develop one.

Houston is more an opportunity given his circumstances but he is also at peak value in terms of draft picks.

You can't improve your list just via the trading of draft picks. I get your point he doesn't improve their list but maybe over the next five years he does.

Think Port will be disappointed if they are expecting him to play key forward. 3rd tall at best.

 

[Crowboto]

Poster on the Port board claiming they are about to enter a dynasty with the signing of Luko. Delusional doesn't begin to describe those Port fellas

 

[Cap]

You do have to chuckle.

Port come top 4 and bring in another player with talent, now it can be argued being pushed out of a team that finished 13th isn't a good sign, but it still shows they can attract players.

We've finished 15th, sure got 1 player who wants to come home anyway, at 29...but yikes how far has this club fallen.

 

[Scorpus]

Lukosius has never been anything but a role player either

He would be the best role player we'd bring to the club this off season if we landed him and the best role player we acquired under Nicks

 

[1970crow]

Maybe Jack is playing 3D chess here. He knows Kenny only has 1 more year and will likely move on and he would know that Nicks would be Port's number 1 target to replace him. He's chosen Port because he wants to play under Nix, like any sane footballer would.

 

[ams4crows]

Just wait until Port some how get a first rounder coming with Luko from GC, this place will melt. There are already toys out of the cot type stuff here.

 

[Owen_AFC97]

He’s been happy coasting away and doing the bare minimum out of the spotlight on the Gold Coast on really good coin. It will be interesting to see if that changes at Port Adelaide.

 

[Cleric]

Yuk.

 

[ams4crows]

He’s been happy coasting away and doing the bare minimum out of the spotlight on the Gold Coast on really good coin. It will be interesting to see if that changes at Port Adelaide.

I agree, that's the most interesting part.

It's one of the reasons I didn't think he'd come back to SA due to the expectations that will undoubtedly be on him.

 

[TBM]

Poster on the Port board claiming they are about to enter a dynasty with the signing of Luko. Delusional doesn't begin to describe those Port fellas

They're already four years into their "3-flags-in-5-years" dynasty

 

[CharlieCrow]

People will of course preach the rhetoric he’s not the right fit at the Crows because they need to magically find midfielders instead ect. or point to the faults in his game but at the end of the day the football club has proven for many years now they struggle to bring in or even find anyone interested joining the club that has a remote semblance of talent that’s not from South Australia/has really strong SA connections.

So to have one of the only handful league-wide talented South Australian footballers knock you back when that’s the only recruitment strategy the club relies on it’s a painful blow and disheartening as it exposes the club and shows just how limited the club is when it comes to finding a way to improve its playing list from a consistent bottom 8 side.

Possibly ...... but there are a number of variables that affect your argument. Most clubs target the come-home players. And it seems that Victorian clubs have greater success, but that is obviously skewed because most players initially come from Victoria! Geelong is the best example of this.
Port has some success in attracting non-SA players, but mostly they are attempted money-ball trades with only a modest success rate. Dixon and Rioli stand out as an exception to this, but the list of fails is much longer. I wouldn't want to be like Port with their endless dysfunctional missing link process. And if they think that Lukosius is going to transform their forward line and be the main hit up target, he and they might be disappointed. He would have been better coming to us and becoming a second or third target alongside Thilthorpe and Fogarty. And I admit to being disappointed he won't be that player for us.
The other non-Victorian clubs don't tend to attract big star trades unless there is a huge amount of money at stake, plus the benefits that the AFL give those clubs to achieve this - the best example being Sydney who always seem to have the cash to attract a Hall, Everett, Franklin, Lockett kind of big name import. Brisbane is also an exception to this - perhaps its the weather!
The best way to recruit good players is always to win at the draft. That is what we have to do. Consistently get rid of the dead wood, find our way up the draft list, recruit well and then keep the players we draft by having a strong culture and by WINNING! Then perhaps you might just attract a want-away star that not from SA.

 

[Mutineer]

Surely it's as a KPF?

Not if they're smart IMO.

High roaming half forward/wing working between the arcs where his elite footskills can be utilised both coming out of defence and kicking into the leading forwards.

 

[crow2crow]

Wonder if Justin Reid at any point now might think his “good old rock” recruitment strategy might not be working after trying it every time after the Dawson & Rankine deals. The club has now gone 0 for 3 on trying the exact same strategy on Redman, Hayward and Lukosius.

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100% we pulled out of redman. thank god. the other two fair enough.

 

[Redline]

Wonder if Justin Reid at any point now might think his “good old rock” recruitment strategy might not be working after trying it every time after the Dawson & Rankine deals. The club has now gone 0 for 3 on trying the exact same strategy on Redman, Hayward and Lukosius.

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If you were Hayward would you leave the Swans given their list? Money can't buy a premiership

If they hit a bad patch he can always play the go home card.

I don't think you can blame Reid. We can clearly offer big money.

It's more Nicks and the football department. Luko was always going to the most likely team to play finals.

 

[crow2crow]

Not if they're smart IMO.

High roaming half forward/wing working between the arcs where his elite footskills can be utilised both coming out of defence and kicking into the leading forwards.

agree completely but they are so desperate for key forward they will stick him there probably.

 

[pjcrows]

I would've liked Lukosius.

But why would he come to us if he had choices? We're a basket case.

 

[crow2crow]

I don't think you can blame Reid. We can clearly offer big money.

It's more Nicks and the football department. Luko was always going to the most likely team to play finals.

lets wait and hear the deal.... i think you might find port upped their money substantially to get him over the line. then the rozzee relationship comes into it.

 

[footy4ever]

Would have been a very handy get for us depending on the price.

Downplaying his ability and value as a player in any team is a fool's game.

Would much prefer to have him than not.

 

[Mutineer]

Wonder if Justin Reid at any point now might think his “good old rock” recruitment strategy might not be working after trying it every time after the Dawson & Rankine deals. The club has now gone 0 for 3 on trying the exact same strategy on Redman, Hayward and Lukosius.

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Redman and Hayward were only ever longshots, both were happy enough to stay.

 

[1970crow]

Port will be a worse side if they trade Houston for Lukosius

I don't think that's necessarily correct. They'll probably get Cumming, have Farrell back and I wouldn't be surprised if Rozee is reinvented as a half back. I don't think his midfield game translates to what's required in finals. Where I agree is that Ken is going to need to change the strategy from the idiotic kick to a contest if Luko is going to be ahead of the ball. If you're not going to use him leading up, then he'll be of little use. A bit like when Nix had us constantly kicking deep inside 50 to contests so we could defend turnover better rather than hitting up one of the best kicks from 50 the game has seen.

 

[CharlieCrow]

Port should really be going all out, as they're in their window. If they're selling Houston just to have the trade capital to get Luko over the line is really just robbing Peter to pay Paul. Luko + Perryman will also blow their salary capital out of the water, but it will technically provide them with an option at either end, but Houston is a massive loss.

I don't agree. I think they looked really bad last weekend and in the game against Geelong. They rely on too few stars and being revved up by those nasty players from opposing teams!!! How did the other teams in the last four play? With elite skills, highly tuned systems and with player lists that bat deep beyond their best 25. Port don't have those assets and were lucky to be there. And I can't see them improving next year, just by adding Lukosius and Perryman (if they get both) and especially if they have to lose Houston to get them, because he is better than both. I expect them to go backwards to barely make the eight.