Jai Serong = Anti-vaxxer

[HairyO]

But The government did lie

Remember when they said if you take the magic convid vaccine you won't catch it or spread it to anyone else . Well if I'm not mistaking that turned out to be FAULSE


Remember when they told you these vaccines were perfectly safe ? This was also lie . Clearly they were not and still aren't . Myocarditis blood clots . People spoke out about this very early on and were called horrible names and treated in horrible ways. Some doctors were thrown out of their jobs. Only when the evidence of vaccine injuries became to big to ignore did the government admit that yes these vaccines can causes serious injuries/ death .

Remember the good old days when the economy was purring but then the government shut everything down and told people you can't earn a living or open your business or go to a restaurant , movies ,shopping , anywhere in society because if you don't get the double snake juice you are a danger and will probably kill other people ? I do Turns out we were no more of a threat than someone that's had 3 or 4 doses .

But anyway hairy0 . You stay safe and keep up to date with your life saving 6th booster

Can you point to any (non-American) government official in a health minister capacity or health department official saying any of that?

 

[faible]

Can you point to any government official in a health minister capacity or health department official saying any of that?

I suspect his news comes from Murdoch Media or Facebook. Can't expect him to check primary sources!

 

[HairyO]

I suspect his news comes from Murdoch Media or Facebook. Can't expect him to check primary sources!

Or Ted Cruz. Probably had to change their news source a few times given how many anti vaxxers kept getting sick and dying of COVID.

 

[King Huskii]

I'm not anti vax

I'm anti having to be vaxed or lose my job that I've devoted thousands of hours working and studying for a job that I love and helping society at the same time to become deregistered if I don't comply with the order.

Heaps of people would have been forced out of their profession yet the vax was no silver bullet

 

[faible]

I'm not anti vax

I'm anti having to be vaxed or lose my job that I've devoted thousands of hours working and studying for a job that I love and helping society at the same time to become deregistered if I don't comply with the order.

Heaps of people would have been forced out of their profession yet the vax was no silver bullet

The vaccine was pretty massive for allowing a return to partial normality and drastically reduce the load on the healthcare system.

I’m not sure what you expect of a vaccine, but chances are your ideas are unrealistic.

 

[King Huskii]

The vaccine was pretty massive for allowing a return to partial normality and drastically reduce the load on the healthcare system.

I’m not sure what you expect of a vaccine, but chances are your ideas are unrealistic.

The opportunity to have a choice without the threat to lose my job and run my family into a massive debt hole if I don't get vaxed

Pretty much a controlled state with little choice. If I said no I'd most likely never do the job that I'm qualified in ever again. I had no choice

The vax made very little difference to the healthy anyway

 

[faible]

The opportunity to have a choice without the threat to lose my job and run my family into a massive debt hole if I don't get vaxed

Pretty much a controlled state with little choice. If I said no I'd most likely never do the job that I'm qualified in ever again. I had no choice

The vax made very little difference to the healthy anyway

Having an issue with being compelled to have a vaccine and having an issue with a vaccine working are two different things.

Don’t fall in to the trap of criticising the effectiveness of the vaccine without actually understanding what vaccines are meant to do, because you dislike the government trying to compel you to get vaccinated for the overall good of society.

 

[King Huskii]

Having an issue with being compelled to have a vaccine and having an issue with a vaccine working are two different things.

Don’t fall in to the trap of criticising the effectiveness of the vaccine without actually understanding what vaccines are meant to do, because you dislike the government trying to compel you to get vaccinated for the overall good of society.

I realise they aren't linked

I Waa just adding that the vaccine wasn't that affective

It didn't slow the spread of infection as they stated it would through herd immunity and from my experience with friends and family who were vaxxed and uncaxxed the virus had the ane mild affect on them. The fear from the government and media made it out to be far worse than the actual virus

 

[Chief]

I Waa just adding that the vaccine wasn't that affective

Based on what evidence?

 

[Chief]

It didn't slow the spread of infection as they stated it would through herd immunity

It did.

and from my experience with friends and family who were vaxxed and uncaxxed the virus had the ane mild affect on them.

Not sure what that sentence means. The two groups exhibited no difference in their response to the virus?

This is not correct and is shown by the data from jurisdictions all around the world.

The fear from the government and media made it out to be far worse than the actual virus

The virus was responsible for a good 20 million deaths. This is a controversial figure but it is highly likely closer to the correct figure than some of the figures of 5 or 10 million deaths.

 

[faible]

I realise they aren't linked

I Waa just adding that the vaccine wasn't that affective

It didn't slow the spread of infection as they stated it would through herd immunity and from my experience with friends and family who were vaxxed and uncaxxed the virus had the ane mild affect on them. The fear from the government and media made it out to be far worse than the actual virus

Your very limited personal experience is not representative of the population wide outcomes.

I’ve got friends who work in ER and Geriatric wards, meaning they worked with both the most vulnerable populations and were on the front line of seeing the impact on the health system.

Vaccinations worked. It wasn’t perfect, neither are many other vaccines, but it worked.

 

[King Huskii]

Your very limited personal experience is not representative of the population wide outcomes.

I’ve got friends who work in ER and Geriatric wards, meaning they worked with both the most vulnerable populations and were on the front line of seeing the impact on the health system.

Vaccinations worked. It wasn’t perfect, neither are many other vaccines, but it worked.

I've got friends who work in the health department of Western Australia as well as hospitals.

 

[King Huskii]

Based on what evidence?

I've provided evidence from the ABC and you dismissed it as media bias. No point arguing with you if you dismiss anything that does suit your narrative while you provide zero evidence to your points.

 

[Chief]

I've got friends who work in the health department of Western Australia as well as hospitals.

I hope they try to set you straight.

 

[King Huskii]

I hope they try to set you straight.

I think you might need to chat with them to get a better understanding of the efficacy of the vaccines.

Plus the cost to many people's health who are suffering affects of the vaccine after being cornered into taking it.

 

[Chief]

I think you might need to chat with them to get a better understanding of the efficacy of the vaccines.

Plus the cost to many people's health who are suffering affects of the vaccine after being cornered into taking it.

Honestly mate nobody needs to chat with some rando people you might possibly have made up.

The data is clear. You are in fantasy land.

 

[King Huskii]

Honestly mate nobody needs to chat with some rando people you might possibly have made up.

The data is clear. You are in fantasy land.

Not at all. Gotta love how you suggest I'm making things up when you have a set agenda and refuse to listen to anyone with a different opinion to yours.

 

[Chief]

Not at all. Gotta love how you suggest I'm making things up when you have a set agenda and refuse to listen to anyone with a different opinion to yours.

Because the data as observed across BILLIONS of people shows that the vaccines work.

They work. There is no different opinion that is correct. None. Simple as that.

You might as well claim seat belts don't work or there was no moon landing.

 

[spudmaster]

Because the data as observed across BILLIONS of people shows that the vaccines work.

They work. There is no different opinion that is correct. None. Simple as that.

You might as well claim seat belts don't work or there was no moon landing.

These ones probably wouldn't have.

 

[Chief]

Designed by Bill Gates and "international bankers"?

 

[King Huskii]

Because the data as observed across BILLIONS of people shows that the vaccines work.

They work. There is no different opinion that is correct. None. Simple as that.

You might as well claim seat belts don't work or there was no moon landing.

Nah seat belts work and the moon landing wasn't fake.

I'm not anti vax old buddy as previously stated. I'm just not happy with having the threat of being deregistered if I don't get at least double vaxxed by the government.

Mind you Phizer isn't exactly a company I'd trust as far as I could kick them.

 

[faible]

I've got friends who work in the health department of Western Australia as well as hospitals.

I think you might need to chat with them to get a better understanding of the efficacy of the vaccines.

Plus the cost to many people's health who are suffering affects of the vaccine after being cornered into taking it.

Not at all. Gotta love how you suggest I'm making things up when you have a set agenda and refuse to listen to anyone with a different opinion to yours.

I simply don't believe you, or your 'friends' are grossly incompetent.

 

[faible]

there was no moon landing.

Thankfully there's already a thread for that!

Conspiracy Theory - The Moon landing - 40 years on

i wasnt born for this so-called "historic event" but i remain a sceptic of whether or not it happened or not the moon landing is one of the top conspiracies in the history of the world: rivalling the events at roswell and area 51. and the kennedy assassination i remain sceptical because : a...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Chief]

I'm not anti vax old buddy as previously stated. I'm just not happy with having the threat of being deregistered if I don't get at least double vaxxed by the government.

You're spreading anti-vax tropes and misinformation.

If the nature of your work means you are more likely to spread a prevalent infectious disease - especially to vulnerable people - of course you should be required to be vaccinated. That wasn't even a new idea at the start of Covid.

But that's rehashing an old argument.

 

[King Huskii]

I simply don't believe you, or your 'friends' are grossly incompetent.

So you have never heard of health complications from the vaccine? You must be so biased you have lost the plot.