Cool this is as bad as the Yarran thread now.
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Traded Jake Carlisle [traded w/ #23 and #44 for #5, #24 and Craig Bird]
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Yay, we did it guys! High fives all around.
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What do you mean "now"?
bltn
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I can't be arsed reading thru the 10 pages, so this has probably been mentioned, but.....
Picks 23 + 44 + 57 minus Sydney's 14 = a gain of 198pts
Sydney lose Bird, but if it assists them with Cap space, a list spot, and more points for their Academy players, then I could see the benefits.
The Saints are effectively getting Carlisle for their 2nd Rounder Pick 24, which would go to us replacing the 23 we give to Sydney + Downgrading Pick 5 to Pick 14.
Not an awful result, and about right.
Not sure if that leaves them enough for Bailey Rice though ?
From an ESS perspective, it's a very good result.
We keep both our 2nd Rounders, which is important given our recent Draft restrictions.
We lose Carlisle and Pick 44 for Pick 5.......sounds about right.
& we gain Bird for Pick 57.
Not sure he is exactly what we need in a period of a mini rebuild, but no doubting the guy can play, and at 26-27yo, he's not quite the geriatric type (Chapman/Cooney) that we have added lately.
Definitely a slight upgrade on the inconsistent Melksham.
Picks 23 + 44 + 57 minus Sydney's 14 = a gain of 198pts
Sydney lose Bird, but if it assists them with Cap space, a list spot, and more points for their Academy players, then I could see the benefits.
The Saints are effectively getting Carlisle for their 2nd Rounder Pick 24, which would go to us replacing the 23 we give to Sydney + Downgrading Pick 5 to Pick 14.
Not an awful result, and about right.
Not sure if that leaves them enough for Bailey Rice though ?
From an ESS perspective, it's a very good result.
We keep both our 2nd Rounders, which is important given our recent Draft restrictions.
We lose Carlisle and Pick 44 for Pick 5.......sounds about right.
& we gain Bird for Pick 57.
Not sure he is exactly what we need in a period of a mini rebuild, but no doubting the guy can play, and at 26-27yo, he's not quite the geriatric type (Chapman/Cooney) that we have added lately.
Definitely a slight upgrade on the inconsistent Melksham.
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How bad is cap space at Sydney if they are already losing Pyke and Jetta?
This is a terrible deal for them. I assume the only reason to get involved was to stop Hawthorn getting Carlisle and probably another flag.
This is a terrible deal for them. I assume the only reason to get involved was to stop Hawthorn getting Carlisle and probably another flag.
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Chris yarren trade negotiations: The Herald Sun reports the 24-year-old is so desperate become a Tiger that he could give the 2016 season a miss and join Richmond as a free agent.
haha and most of us thought our trading negotiations were rough!
haha and most of us thought our trading negotiations were rough!
bungwahl
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We've supposedly got a reasonable amount of cap space (not in the "war-chest" category), but clearing out depth players like Bird allows us to have more flexibility in recontracting guys like Luke Parker.
The deal doesn't seem too bad at face value. What makes it terrible?
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Will it help get you talia
bungwahl
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No, I don't think it's connected to any potential deal for Talia. That'd be more likely to be a 3rd rounder, or future pick.
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I meant clearing the depth for him to make room
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Giving up 14. And could have got an end of 2nd round for Bird on a free trade.
Or do the Swans have their eye on a few Academy players so a couple of mid 20 picks are more important?
Maybe this is better off in another thread, but I guess its still linked to Carlisle.
bungwahl
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Yeah potentially - obviously clears out whatever salary Bird was on. We haven't made any delistings yet either.
bungwahl
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The Swans priority is academy kid Callum Mills so we were only going to give away 14 if we ended up with more draft points in return. Bird's trade value was probably hurt from him missing most of this year with niggling injuries, but I'd say we'd have been happy with a pick in the 40's for him. Purely using the draft points system the trade of (14 + Bird) for (24 + 25) seems quite fair. I would have liked Sydney to try to grab another pick between 44 - 60 as a sweetener, but I think overall the deal is ok for all clubs.
Bird won't get a senior game at our club next year & as a loved p'ship player, his best outcome is to be traded.
The Swans have always been aggressive at list management & at the trade table & also very fair to trade with.
The Swans have always been aggressive at list management & at the trade table & also very fair to trade with.
Ur dreaming. Bombers not giving up 2nd round pick ! 44 to Swans. %7 to Swans if Bird is included (the only variation that may happen is a swap of 25 for 33 Swans second round pick). Saints trying to make out like bandits but not succeeding
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Hopefully we find out soon
