James Frawley

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No, my posts to you has nothing to do with that. It's your claim that the Tyson + pick 10 is easy to get, which you have so far completely avoided in responding to. Then there's the whole front loaded issue which proves that you have nfi and your argument has no value
Crouch and Adelaide's first could hypothetically do it. Tigers Ellis and their first could also hypothetically do the Melbourne's compo pick 3 also if they got it.
 
You're right, only contract terms and age of player.

I would have thought past achievements should count for something.
Yeah ideally it would have some weighting, but given all the different voting systems (and the fact that it's done by voting) BnF is too subjective to be counted in a formula that needs to be objective to be 'fair'.
 

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Yeah ideally it would have some weighting, but given all the different voting systems (and the fact that it's done by voting) BnF is too subjective to be counted in a formula that needs to be objective to be 'fair'.

That's true, but it also means James Frawley's AA at 22 means nothing.
 
You think Adelaide is going to trade Crouch?

You're on drugs
It wasn't about what exactly the clubs would do, as the other guy said who knows unless involved with the club directly. how could anybody on big footy know. It was pointing out what would be reasonable in a trade as in what Melbourne and another club could and might do, don't get your knickers in a knot buddy it was a hypothetical response.
 
It wasn't about what exactly the clubs would do, as the other guy said who knows unless involved with the club directly. how could anybody on big footy know. It was pointing out what would be reasonable in a trade as in what Melbourne and another club could and might do, don't get your knickers in a knot buddy it was a hypothetical response.

Ok, then we could also trade pick 3 for the Doggies first pick and Macrae.

See what I did there, looks easy on bigfooty, doesn't it.

Meanwhile, reality exists out there somewhere, perhaps it's time to turn the pc off and experience it.
 
Ok, then we could also trade pick 3 for the Doggies first pick and Macrae.

See what I did there, looks easy on bigfooty, doesn't it.

Meanwhile, reality exists out there somewhere, perhaps it's time to turn the pc off and experience it.
Ok you are really just writing crap now. he was being speculative about Melbourne could do a Tyson like deal like they did with the giants with pick 9 added. you said those deals are not easy to do to the other poster on here, he said they could and you said give me examples, he didn't but i threw up Adelaides Crouch and pick 10 for Melbournes pick 3 now you turn around and say im on drugs for suggesting such things, you seem to be unable to speculate and do hypotheticals, i also threw up a hypothetical of the Tigers first round pick and say Ellis for Melbourne's pick 3. they of course can be done if its a needs basis. Now i think you need to take a break and realize most of what gets written up on BF around this time of year is speculation.
 
Ok you are really just writing crap now. he was being speculative about Melbourne could do a Tyson like deal like they did with the giants with pick 9 added. you said those deals are not easy to do to the other poster on here, he said they could and you said give me examples, he didn't but i threw up Adelaides Crouch and pick 10 for Melbournes pick 3 now you turn around and say im on drugs for suggesting such things, you seem to be unable to speculate and do hypotheticals, i also threw up a hypothetical of the Tigers first round pick and say Ellis for Melbourne's pick 3. they of course can be done if its a needs basis. Now i think you need to take a break and realize most of what gets written up on BF around this time of year is speculation.

No, you're writing crap. I'm pointing out that those deals are bloody hard to get across the, you've added weight to my argument by coming up with a trade that Adelaide would never agree to.

There is a difference between BF trades and reality, I don't think you grasp this difference.
 

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FA compensation means that all the picks after that pick will get put back by one. It's not that hard to work out, or is it?

Think the first round is more important than the rest. Why should Freo get pick 13 instead of 12 because Frawley went to Hawthorn. We didn't gain anything from that happening. You will get a good pick but not a great pick and Hawthorn will drop back one spot. it's all good.
 
No, you're writing crap. I'm pointing out that those deals are bloody hard to get across the, you've added weight to my argument by coming up with a trade that Adelaide would never agree to.

There is a difference between BF trades and reality, I don't think you grasp this difference.
do you not know how to read and comprehend? i said if it was means based. say they didn't have tex and were crying out for a tall forward like the dogs are, they would do that deal to get high in the draft to get Macartin or wright witch is what the dogs will be doing this draft. i wasn't the one saying its easy, i was the one saying its deals like that that will get done when a club needs a specific type of player. i am sure if jack wanted out of Tigerland and left the tigers with no main focal point they would trade their pick 9 or what ever they have and Ellis for Melbourne's pick 3 to get say Macartin.
 
Think the first round is more important than the rest. Why should Freo get pick 13 instead of 12 because Frawley went to Hawthorn. We didn't gain anything from that happening. You will get a good pick but not a great pick and Hawthorn will drop back one spot. it's all good.

Are you serious? Too bad
 
do you not know how to read and comprehend? i said if it was means based. say they didn't have tex and were crying out for a tall forward like the dogs are, they would do that deal to get high in the draft to get Macartin or wright witch is what the dogs will be doing this draft. i wasn't the one saying its easy, i was the one saying its deals like that that will get done when a club needs a specific type of player. i am sure if jack wanted out of Tigerland and left the tigers with no main focal point they would trade their pick 9 or what ever they have and Ellis for Melbourne's pick 3 to get say Macartin.

Show me then. Give me of an example other that the Tyson/pick 10 deal where it happened.
 
Are you serious? Too bad

Personally it really shits me, this compo situation. For Richmond, we're right on the cusp of the best talent in the draft pool. At 11, we stand a chance of landing one of Ahern, Weller, Laverde or Pickett. At 12, the chances are drastically lower. It seriously affects us and probably a number of other clubs with a specific target in mind. I wouldn't mind so much if the player you were losing were a legitimate star, inarguably worth a top 5 pick, but he's not. This is an example of a flawed AFL construct failing the majority.
 
This is an example of a flawed AFL construct failing the majority.

Of course it is failing the majority - because the majority of sides are not holding the ladder up.
The majority of sides do not want Melbourne to get pick 3, because they'll fall back a spot in their precious draft.
The majority of sides probably get prime time games as well, a fair amount of that majority don't get r*ped and pillaged by the stronger clubs.
The majority of sides don't have their best forward walk out of the club - only to come back and play for a successful club.
I won't even get started on Frawley.

As someone who used to take the p*ss out of the Dees, I now genuinely feel for their fans.
 
Personally it really shits me, this compo situation. For Richmond, we're right on the cusp of the best talent in the draft pool. At 11, we stand a chance of landing one of Ahern, Weller, Laverde or Pickett. At 12, the chances are drastically lower. It seriously affects us and probably a number of other clubs with a specific target in mind. I wouldn't mind so much if the player you were losing were a legitimate star, inarguably worth a top 5 pick, but he's not. This is an example of a flawed AFL construct failing the majority.

I wonder if you're feel the same way if Deledio was to leave as a FA.
 

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