MRP / Trib. James Sicily - 3 weeks for dangerous tackle - SUSPENSION STANDS!

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Kozzie Pickett got 2 weeks for shooting himself out of a cannon and launching at Bailey Smiths head, Marlon Pickett will be back before Sicily returns after being charged with almost half a million dollars worth of theft.

It's pretty simple, get Sic to go down births, deaths & marriages tomorrow and change his name to Pickett.
Nah don't do that or Sic will probably be framed for the burglaries. He'd go from a 3 week suspension to a 3 year jail sentence 😂😂😂
 
Must appeal, stupid not to. Let's drag this s**t out and let everyone everyday for the next ten days talk about this and forget the football. !!! Let's derail the footy for a couple of weeks. Need to hit the airwaves in droves hawk fans.
This. If the appeal fails, take it to the courts. Keep it front and centre of the AFL news cycle for a few weeks. Set a precedent.
 

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Can someone explain why Sicily’s tackle was graded as severe impact, but Butlers tackle (as an example) was medium? Both players concussed, both walk from the ground etc
 
"As to the first, it may be that Brockman’s involvement changed the force of the impact, but we can't be sufficiently satisfied as to the extent."

That sentence alone should be sufficient grounds to appeal. Its not like we had an expert witness testify to this or anything 🙄.

To be fair though, the entire statement is bull and should be used to appeal.
It would be really interesting to know McCluggage's view on the tackle. Not saying you could or would be allowed to use him as a witness if we decided to challenge but yeah it would be very interesting to get his scope on things. The dude got KO'd so he might not remember much but if didn't think it was Sic's fault then that would really be saying something especially in regards to Brocky being there.
 
Can someone explain why Sicily’s tackle was graded as severe impact, but Butlers tackle (as an example) was medium? Both players concussed, both walk from the ground etc

Main injury to Blakey from Sydney was to the toe which he sustained in the first quarter and passed his HIA and is playing this weekend.

But still accidents happen. Its a 360 sport. If you get concussed as a result of a freak accident that sucks but its footy. You need some leeway.

I hope you appeal. You must. For the sake of the game.
 
A Player or the AFL General Counsel can appeal on the following points:
1. Error of law that has a material impact on the decision of the Tribunal.
2. That the decision was so unreasonable that no Tribunal acting reasonably
could have come to that decision having regard to the evidence before it.

3. Classification of offence manifestly excessive or inadequate.
4. Sanction imposed manifestly excessive or inadequate.

I would say point 2 would be the most obvious grounds of an appeal.

Agreed that is the clause. The only hope would be that the AFL offered no counter to the scientist and the Tribunal admitted ignoring the scientific claim.
 
I still can‘t get my head around how stupid that AFL statement is.
when has an AFL player placed a tackle that lasted less than a second, let alone in this instance, should have gone for less than half a second while they were in mid air and contorted, according to the ****heads

that is just not set in reality at all and hence why that statement had to have been prepared before the hearing. They were told the whole episode lasted a tad over one second and totally disregarded it
 
Main injury to Blakey from Sydney was to the toe which he sustained in the first quarter and passed his HIA and is playing this weekend.

But still accidents happen. Its a 360 sport. If you get concussed as a result of a freak accident that sucks but its footy. You need some leeway.

I hope you appeal. You must. For the sake of the game.
Thanks for clarifying.

Without using Butler as the example, does anyone know if every bump/tackle that has caused concussion this year been graded as severe impact?
 
I still can‘t get my head around how stupid that AFL statement is.
when has an AFL player placed a tackle that lasted less than a second, let alone in this instance, should have gone for less than half a second while they were in mid air and contorted, according to the *heads

that is just not set in reality at all and hence why that statement had to have been prepared before the hearing. They were told the whole episode lasted a tad over one second and totally disregarded it
I reckon if we challenge then time span of tackle could be used to get him off or downgraded
 
Exactly. We had an expert claim something. The AFL's counter argument was "NUP NOPE NO!!!".

And the Tribunal sided with the AFL.

Be interesting to see whether we appeal. Grossly/manifestly unfair/wrong is required. No idea how that happens. The AFL just cries CONCUSSION !!!
Tribunal campaigners probably permanent concussion victims and as such both lack competence to hear the case and are biased
 

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Can someone explain why Sicily’s tackle was graded as severe impact, but Butlers tackle (as an example) was medium? Both players concussed, both walk from the ground etc
Blakey not concussed got subbed out for a toe injury.

Mcclugage is an unco spud who fails his own duty to protect himself. I will be booing him next time we play the lions in Melbourne- so 2030
 
What concerns me is that there is not a single thing that Sis could have done differently. I really hope that this doesn't have a negative roll on effect to the rest of the boys where they think that can't tackle at all because that was all it was...a tackle.
Or we go all out to really ****ing dump tackle their precious suns and have the farce of a whole team suspension
 
What concerns me is that there is not a single thing that Sis could have done differently. I really hope that this doesn't have a negative roll on effect to the rest of the boys where they think that can't tackle at all because that was all it was...a tackle.
What a complete joke. It’s a travesty. Sicily had no control over the tackle and was hanging on by his fingernails and at full length after diving to grab the waist of McCluggage. Didn’t pin an arm at all.
I hope the Hawks appeal this. Crazy finding.
 
What concerns me is that there is not a single thing that Sis could have done differently. I really hope that this doesn't have a negative roll on effect to the rest of the boys where they think that can't tackle at all because that was all it was...a tackle.
Well there was one option. He could've elected not to tackle McCluggage and let him go by untouched for an i50 that likely would've resulted in:
  1. a goal to Brisbane
  2. the ire of his coach
  3. the disappointment of the playing group that as captain he's expected to lead
  4. knowing the media tanking allegations
I'm sure there's more but I'm going to bed now
 
"As to the first, it may be that Brockman’s involvement changed the force of the impact, but we can't be sufficiently satisfied as to the extent."

So what happened to benefit of the doubt? That is amateur hour. Which in turn sums up how qualified the tribunal are.
This stupid interpretation will all get changed within a fortnight with 3 potentially winnable games for us and Sicily’s AA being the casualty.
 
This is depressing.

The AFL is trying to protect itself from future legal action by punishing players who cause a head injury - even when it is out of their control. They are punishing the result of an action (tackling) that is otherwise encouraged. They hope this will avoid them being liable.

However, by allowing (encouraging) tackling under the rules they are encouraging actions that blind Freddy could see might lead to head injuries.

If the AFL is serious about eliminating brain damage they would make tackling illegal. A rule based on the result of an action that is otherwise encouraged by the rules is merely trying to avoid responsibility by pushing the onus from the AFL onto the players.
 
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"As to the first, it may be that Brockman’s involvement changed the force of the impact, but we can't be sufficiently satisfied as to the extent."

So what happened to benefit of the doubt? That is amateur hour. Which in turn sums up how qualified the tribunal are.
This stupid interpretation will all get changed within a fortnight with 3 potentially winnable games for us and Sicily’s AA being the casualty.

It's not only the "benefit of the doubt", but the fact that the AFL is punishing the result of the action. If Brockman's involvement contributed to the result, then Sicily is not entirely responsible for the outcome. Ditto any actions/non-actions that McCluggage took.

In fact, a good lawyer could argue that by taking possession, McCluggage invited the injury by encouraging the tackle.
 

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