January 26th 2025

[MPMonkeys]

National days observe significant events. The founding of a prison colony is not one.

All public holidays the world over are problematic if you look hard enough to be offended.
Australia is not special.

 

[South of the Yarra]

I mentioned this very fact many moons ago

If you don't mind me asking, who is your mob / people? Purely out of self interest.

 

[Vindicater]

Maybe it was the people I hung around with, but no one I knew thought of this day as a patriotic day at all. It was just a day off to have a BBQ and relax with friends. No more or less imprtant than Labor day for example.

Yep. Was always hottest 100 day as a teenager until I got older and realised triple J sucks.

Now I just enjoy the lay-in. (Small children so there sure as shit ain't a sleep in)

 

[Vindicater]

Notwithstanding the political debate, I think the timing of Australia Day makes perfect sense in these modern times.

It comes about a fortnight after most people have returned from work which helps smooth people into the work grind. And its during summer and January is generally the best time of year weather wise in Australia. There are also major events happening such as the tennis, cricket as well as events that suit January such as night markets, beaches etc.

Personally I find that Australia Day kick starts my work year. Puts a full stop to the holiday period.

I am Jack's utter lack of surprise.

 

[CM86]

What happens for the vast majority of Australians when it comes to this discussion is this.

1. Wtf is the problem with the 26th?!? I've not followed any of it, but it seems like some woke shit.
2. Hey, so we all love and celebrate Australia, but it turns out that the 26th is a celebration of colonising Australia. As in viewing Aboriginal people as subhuman and celebrating a date that is viewed as congealing the slaughter of innocent people.
1. Oh damn, I had no idea. Yeah please change the date, I don't support any of that. I just love the holiday. Time for some beach or street cricket, and get on the beers!.




Rant against racists below.

The problem is that there are dickheads who view Aboriginal people as subhuman.​

And they will literally fight to keep a specific date for a holiday, rather than let it be a more beneficial holiday, because they want a day to celebrate their 'ethnic superiority'.​

The idea that it hurts or harms Aboriginal people, is just the vinegar stroke for them.​

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The idea of Aboriginal people being treated as equals in any form, is a knife in the back to these people.​

They have literally nothing in their lives, other than the idea that genetically they're superior to others.​

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They make statements like 'If only I was an Aboriginal lesbian in a wheelchair, my life would be on easy street'.​

And they really believe it, because in their minds, Aboriginal people shouldn't just have nothing, that they should be actively pushed beneath the surface. So the idea that they could ever reach the greatest heights of the lowest rung, means that a white person is missing out... As there is no way an Aboriginal person could ever achieve anything on merit...​

 

[Skeppersap]

I don't think a majority of Australians really care when Australia Day is, they do however care about a minority opinion about Australia Day needing to be moved being forced upon them by the vocal left wing minority.

Just co-ordinate a plebiscite at the same time as an election and do whatever the majority votes.

If people don't like the result, suggest they move to a non democratic society.

 

[kalex6251]

has lurch (and his hate hydrant media propagandists at newscorp) called for australia day purity tests yet?

 

[South of the Yarra]

I don't think a majority of Australians really care when Australia Day is, they do however care about a minority opinion about Australia Day needing to be moved being forced upon them by the vocal left wing minority.

Just co-ordinate a plebiscite at the same time as an election and do whatever the majority votes.

If people don't like the result, suggest they move to a non democratic society.

Do you really think it is a democratic society for all Aboriginal people?

 

[liz]

I don't think a majority of Australians really care when Australia Day is, they do however care about a minority opinion about Australia Day needing to be moved being forced upon them by the vocal left wing minority.

Just co-ordinate a plebiscite at the same time as an election and do whatever the majority votes.

If people don't like the result, suggest they move to a non democratic society.

I don’t think a majority would care (or view this as something forced upon them) if the likes of Sky News didn’t spend so much energy telling them they should be offended by the idea.

 

[schneebly111]

I don’t think a majority would care (or view this as something forced upon them) if the likes of Sky News didn’t spend so much energy telling them they should be offended by the idea.

In 2021 the Liberal government of Scott Morrison changed the words of our national anthem (which has been in force longer than the Australia Day public holiday being on Jan 26) from “we are young and free” to “we are one and free”. It passed with almost no fanfare. It was a change to a national symbol to acknowledge indigenous people. Murdoch media didn’t care.

Without a shadow of a doubt if a Labor government had attempted such a move Sky and Murdoch would be screaming WOKE SOCIAL ENGINEERING to high heaven.

The only reason the easily offended are upset over Jan 26 is because Murdoch has decided it’s time to attack the WOKE LEFT as being unpatriotic.

 

[schneebly111]

The problem is that there are dickheads who view Aboriginal people as subhuman.​

And they will literally fight to keep a specific date for a holiday, rather than let it be a more beneficial holiday, because they want a day to celebrate their 'ethnic superiority'.​

If Jan 26 was truly about “celebrating Australia” we’d have people wearing Green and Gold or specifically Australian motifs throughout the day.

But we don’t see that at all, for the shrinking minority who still deck themselves out on the day they wear the national flag with the Union Jack in the corner. I’ve noticed for some of their flag boardies/bikinis/paper plates they most prominently display the Union Jack and the federation star and southern cross are almost unseen.

It really is a day when a lot of people imply “we are a British nation of primarily British people”.

 

[Spirit Level]

Can't we just make it the last Friday in Jan every year? Satisfies the people who have an issue with the date and makes it a proper long weekend, rather than sometimes falling weirdly in the middle of the week.

Bring the hottest 100 back to the day as well and it should work pretty well.

 

[schneebly111]

Can't we just make it the last Friday in Jan every year? Satisfies the people who have an issue with the date and makes it a proper long weekend, rather than sometimes falling weirdly in the middle of the week.

Bring the hottest 100 back to the day as well and it should work pretty well.

That probably would have worked a few years ago (like it did for many years before) but now the right and Murdoch have firmly dug their heels in over Jan 26th and made it a culture war. They’ll scream to high heaven if it’s moved.

Even if it went to plebiscite as a change to a permanent long weekend which would benefit most people the right would launch a scare campaign like they did with the voice that somehow changing the public holiday to a long weekend is bad or woke and a slippery slope to indigenous people stealing your house or something.

On the other hand opposition to the day grows and less people in the middle want to celebrate it. So now you have a shouting match and people in the middle tune out.

 

[schneebly111]

Yep. Was always hottest 100 day as a teenager until I got older and realised triple J sucks.

Now I just enjoy the lay-in. (Small children so there sure as shit ain't a sleep in)

Yeah now that I think about it any time my generation had a BBQ or party on the day it was solely a Hottest 100 countdown event. None of them have continued having a specific “Australia Day” party on the 26th.

 

[adogsfan5]

If it was changed, those who are against changing it, will get over it within a week. Take it to the bank.
Change the date, move on and be done with it.

 

[The Sultan]

who cares, have the day or don't, re-name it or don't.. aas long as get a day off somewhere along the line couldn't GAF.

 

[Skeppersap]

Do you really think it is a democratic society for all Aboriginal people?

Yes, I do. The vote of an Aboriginal person holds just as much weight as that of a non indigenous person.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Yes, I do. The vote of an Aboriginal person holds just as much weight as that of a non indigenous person.

Do you think that many of the remote Aboriginal communities truly know about voting and understand the process and impact.

 

[Skeppersap]

Do you think that many of the remote Aboriginal communities truly know about voting and understand the process and impact.

Their knowledge, or care for utilising that knowledge, is on them. The ability to vote is provided, and their vote is worth that of any other person in Australia, including politicians.

I think this digresses from the thread topic though.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Their knowledge, or care for utilising that knowledge, is on them. The ability to vote is provided, and their vote is worth that of any other person in Australia, including politicians.

I think this digresses from the thread topic though.

So, the knowledge is on Aboriginal communities who unbelievably in some communities are not provided with information in their local language, do not speak English, have limited information technology access, are not provided with education around it. There is nothing democratic about it. Get into some of the Aboriginal communities and see how it really works.

 

[South of the Yarra]

who cares, have the day or don't, re-name it or don't.. aas long as get a day off somewhere along the line couldn't GAF.

I care that the date is changed.

 

[GreyWind]

Why in the **** would we need another plebiscite? The last one wasn't even a plebiscite, it was a non-binding postal vote that wasted millions and allowed bigots to be the campaigners they are.

Indigenous people in this nation have already had to put up with these bigots during the Voice to Parliament referendum, on top of hearing them for their entire lives. They don't need to hear the same shit again on a national scale.

 

[The Sultan]

still a banger

 

[Boxo004]

If it was changed, those who are against changing it, will get over it within a week. Take it to the bank.
Change the date, move on and be done with it.

Which I would be one. But what becomes of jan 26?? National day of shame and mourning? My stance is that Jan 26 becomes a day of reflection not too dissimilar to ANZAC Day. No one can change the past but we can acknowledge and move forward.

 

[Boxo004]

I care that the date is changed.

We know