As well as the small fact that there is no compelling reason to become a republic in the first place.
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Ahh yes, its all Murdoch's fault.
Why the hell would he care about Australia Day?
The way referenudms normally do? Pick an alternative date and people vote on option or if there is no option vote to cancel
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Zero chance of it succeeding unless the republicans actually agree a model (which should be easy but some want an all powerful elected president which is last thing we need)
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Probably a question only our indigenous brothers and sisters can answer as they were the ones invaded.
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How?
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Would not need a referendum just agreement of all fed state territory govts
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You are making a fool of yourself. There is no way Aboriginal tribes in the Swan River area had a clue about the First Fleet landing at Port Jackson 4,000 km away.
Even communication across 100 km would have been very challenging, given that people would have had to walk for days, without reliable food or water, to meet a potentially hostile tribe who spoke another language.
Can you please elaborate on this strong communication system and how it operated?
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Apart from the fact referendums are for constitutional changes.
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I don’t think the poster meant communication across the Nullabor. However contact between groups on the tightly packed SE corner would have spread gradual word of the arrival of boats carrying light skinned people.
Don’t forget British people didn’t permanently arrive in Victoria until some 20 years after the so called “Australia day” landing in Sydney harbour, 30 years til they crossed west of the Blue Mountains and 40 years til they got to Queensland.
Further inland, Indigenous peoples were warned of the British invasion after the Cumberland Plain had been taken by 1815, and this information preceded them by hundreds of kilometres.
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It unfortunately seems the main way indigenous tribes knew about the arrival of the British was the sudden arrival of smallpox which spread through indigenous communities like wildfire
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Look at my post above.
Because any referendum needs bi partisan support to get up
Libs/Murdoch will be against any change
Again , why would Murdoch give a flying fart?
To play the culture wars game all his media love
Outrage etc etc for clicks
Did Victoria have a referendum to decide on the GF parade public holiday?
But isn't it media such as The Guardian, The Nine mastheads, the ABC and SBS who are clamouring to change the date?
Or are you really asking that when the Left propose something, everyone else should just pucker up and accept it?
No - referendums are a federal matter anyway.
It was tongue in cheek, due to the idiocy, talking of a referendum to change the date of a celebration day, which has changed multiple times in the past.
States and territories can also have referendums.
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Occasionally they’ve published an opinion column asking for a date change, but also alongside opinion columns not wanting a date change.
The Murdoch papers have front pages festooned with flags and headlines “REAL AUSSIES WANT TO CELEBRATE AUSTRALIA ON JANUARY 26th!”
That headline only exists in your mind. And I can barely recall a Murdoch paper that has had the Australian flag on it save for maybe a gold medal at the Olympics or something similar.
The fact is, if the left wing press did not raise the subject every year, then there would be no need for anyone to counter argue against it. Makes logical sense, if nobody is against then there is no need to argue in favor.
So the ;culture war' is started by those wanting to change the date, not keep the date.
As above, I think what the Left really want is for their proposals just to be accepted and that nobody should be allowed to debate its merits.
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A quick skim through this thread and comparing it to the same thread circa 2018 or so, it's interesting that the narrative seems to have largely changed for opponents to changing the date from there not being anything wrong with the date to not wanting it change because of some nonsense about the woke left pushing the change on them.
It's so blatant and tells you everything you need to know. Not even worth properly engaging with that shit.
It's so blatant and tells you everything you need to know. Not even worth properly engaging with that shit.
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Pretty sure Dutto raised it first this year, apropos of nothing. He wants a culture war and the press are often happy to follow.
the angst it caused - even amongst colleagues where i worked at the time - was bizarre when introduced
what kind of perosn bemoans a public holiday - how warped in the mind must you be to complain about that
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Nobody is allowed to have a different opinion? There are usually two sides to be debated.
